Horta which is it....Caynaba or Cayn??

[skywalker25]

sxb where do HJ live more sool or sanaag?

That is a very sensitive question, you are asking me who is more Biciide or RY

last thing we want is to piss off sky lol

salan sare sxb

I don't live in either bro...

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Cayn means Buuhodle district but the name for The Ain region which includes Caynabo and parts of Buhoodle district.

Caynabo was lost due to 3 reasons.

1. The Ahmed Garaad Dhulos went against the Sayid at the end To save their people, so they had to flee their land to the Deep Hawd.
2. The British were punishing Dhulos and the war was spilling into our territories & many Dhulos fled the whole Nugaal & Hawd were empty by the end of the war & many were lost.
3. By the time people returned Isaaq subclans were settling some of the land including Caynabo, add this with clan ware fare.

Those reasons caused the Ahmed Garaad to settle in the Hawd & Buhoodle area.

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

Cayn means Buuhodle district but the name for The Ain region which includes Caynabo and parts of Buhoodle district.

Caynabo was lost due to 3 reasons.

1. The Ahmed Garaad Dhulos went against the Sayid at the end To save their people, so they had to flee their land to the Deep Hawd.
2. The British were punishing Dhulos and the war was spilling into our territories & many Dhulos fled the whole Nugaal & Hawd were empty by the end of the war & many were lost.
3. By the time people returned Isaaq subclans were settling some of the land including Caynabo, add this with clan ware fare.

Those reasons caused the Ahmed Garaad to settle in the Hawd & Buhoodle area.

Caynaba was a shared town in the 50's. Decades after the conflicts between the daraawish and the british stopped.

[skywalker25]

Cayn means Buuhodle district but the name for The Ain region which includes Caynabo and parts of Buhoodle district.

Caynabo was lost due to 3 reasons.

1. The Ahmed Garaad Dhulos went against the Sayid at the end To save their people, so they had to flee their land to the Deep Hawd.
2. The British were punishing Dhulos and the war was spilling into our territories & many Dhulos fled the whole Nugaal & Hawd were empty by the end of the war & many were lost.
3. By the time people returned Isaaq subclans were settling some of the land including Caynabo, add this with clan ware fare.

Those reasons caused the Ahmed Garaad to settle in the Hawd & Buhoodle area.

Caynaba changed hands in the 50's and the conflcit involving the Mad Mullah ended around 1910 and he died in 1920....

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

You guys don't believe me there was conflict in the area. There are still Dhulos around that border area who fought in the 50s. the well was abonded in the before 1920 and when the War with Dervish ended. The mullah died in 1921.

Even Xplaya who sometimes make shit up will tell you.

The Ararsame Ahmed Garaad who settled there left During the war. I think the Guba songs were in 30s too plus you can check any map from the 30s.

[X.Playa]

You guys don't believe me there was conflict in the area. There are still Dhulos around that border area who fought in the 50s. the well was abonded in the before 1920 and when the War with Dervish ended. The mullah died in 1921.

Even Xplaya who sometimes make shit up will tell you.

The Ararsame Ahmed Garaad who settled there left During the war. I think the Guba songs were in 30s too plus you can check any map from the 30s.

horta mar kaste oo madaxa laydin ka tumo maxaad uGu meersaysataan Daraawiish iyo balaayo aan dhulkaba joogin , miyaanu ahayn Cali Dhuux ninkii markay H.Y u diideen ceelsha Doollo inu ka cabo 1923 gii hashiisa ku lahaa dhulka Harti iyo ceelka Cayn ( Caynaba) baad ka cabi doontaa ee hada carqada ( biyaa ceelka ka data iska cab):

Cayn iyo Hartaad leedee caraqda fuuqfuuqso

meaning at that time your Dhulbahnate were controlling Caynaba wel and the H.J didn't yet conqured it , why make excuse out of Daraawiish , the Dervish weren't in even Caynaba in 1919 never mind 1923 .

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

1. Cayn is a region not just Caynabo, why would the Ogadeen respond that your Caynabo is not Dhuloz no more?

You were saying in a another thread there was no war for Caynaba. I will find that thread.

Ofcourse the Dervishes were not everywhere every moment but if you don't know mr Historian, The Ararsame Ahmed Garaad who lived in that area, found themselves at odds with both the Dervishes and British by the middle of the war they evacuated that territory, they came back after the war like most Dhulos who survived and found others on the territory, there was skirmishes but this time the British were here and even if you raid or kill from another clan you would be punished.

[JSL3000]

Caynaba is isaaq terrority ans cayn is a dhulos fantasy.

[JSL3000]

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[TheLoFather]

You guys don't believe me there was conflict in the area. There are still Dhulos around that border area who fought in the 50s. the well was abonded in the before 1920 and when the War with Dervish ended. The mullah died in 1921.

Even Xplaya who sometimes make shit up will tell you.

The Ararsame Ahmed Garaad who settled there left During the war. I think the Guba songs were in 30s too plus you can check any map from the 30s.

horta mar kaste oo madaxa laydin ka tumo maxaad uGu meersaysataan Daraawiish iyo balaayo aan dhulkaba joogin , miyaanu ahayn Cali Dhuux ninkii markay H.Y u diideen ceelsha Doollo inu ka cabo 1923 gii hashiisa ku lahaa dhulka Harti iyo ceelka Cayn ( Caynaba) baad ka cabi doontaa ee hada carqada ( biyaa ceelka ka data iska cab):

Cayn iyo Hartaad leedee caraqda fuuqfuuqso

meaning at that time your Dhulbahnate were controlling Caynaba wel and the H.J didn't yet conqured it , why make excuse out of Daraawiish , the Dervish weren't in even Caynaba in 1919 never mind 1923 .

I think they've lost Caynaba before the time of the Guba poems had started.

In the gabayada Guba, in response to Cali Dhuux doesn't Qamaan Bulxan say that ;

" ...ma dhulmaniyee deenteeda waa dhaba galaayaa ee
Idhinkuba dhulkii Caynaba darisku tihiinee...."

Is it not the Qamaan is implying and saying to Cali Dhuux that they (Cali's people) too have lost their town i.e. Caynaba and that as Qamaans people got ejected out of Doolo, so too has Cali Dhuux's clan got deprived of Caynaba and forced to reside nearby lands! "...Ceeb iyo daawasho waan wada qabnaayee"

[Ben Dover]

This Cayn business started in 2003, it is very recent. It is both historically and geographically inaccurate as Cayn refers to the plains surrounding the town and well of Caynaba.

MJs came up with the name Cayn for an entirely different patch of land, this was done to remind the Dhulos of the loss of Caynaba.

sxb where do HJ live more sool or sanaag?

HJ sool - Reer yoonis, Cali barre, solo madow, cumar
HJ sanaag - biciide, uduruxmiin

I thinks it's pretty even.
In terms of biciide and Reer yoonis, biciide is larger, which is why they are ranked number uno largest HJ su clan.

Minor correction:
HJ sool - Reer yoonis, Bah Majeelo, Cali barre, cumar, Idarays
HJ sanaag - biciide, uduruxmiin

Very few Solomadow are still in the area as most moved southwards and westwards.

[burcaawi14]

sxb where do HJ live more sool or sanaag?

HJ sool - Reer yoonis, Cali barre, solo madow, cumar
HJ sanaag - biciide, uduruxmiin

I thinks it's pretty even.
In terms of biciide and Reer yoonis, biciide is larger, which is why they are ranked number uno largest HJ su clan.

Minor correction:
HJ sool - Reer yoonis, Bah Majeelo, Cali barre, cumar, Idarays
HJ sanaag - biciide, uduruxmiin

Very few Solomadow are still in the area as most moved southwards and westwards.

Solomadow didn't even want the land , they are on hot pursuit of the dhulos who they chased from Western sool

[Khalid Ali]

Cayn means Buuhodle district but the name for The Ain region which includes Caynabo and parts of Buhoodle district.

Caynabo was lost due to 3 reasons.

1. The Ahmed Garaad Dhulos went against the Sayid at the end To save their people, so they had to flee their land to the Deep Hawd.
2. The British were punishing Dhulos and the war was spilling into our territories & many Dhulos fled the whole Nugaal & Hawd were empty by the end of the war & many were lost.
3. By the time people returned Isaaq subclans were settling some of the land including Caynabo, add this with clan ware fare.

Those reasons caused the Ahmed Garaad to settle in the Hawd & Buhoodle area.

Caynaba changed hands in the 50's and the conflcit involving the Mad Mullah ended around 1910 and he died in 1920....

actually caynabo was lost in 1923 caynabo was mentioned in the guba series by salaan carabay Caynaba hadhuub kama dartaan hoga kaliileede
Ke hulleele Hagar aadankii hoobalayn jirayay eh he was refering to cayanbo but nugaal is wrong also on this cayanbo was reer hagar farax hagar if i am correct farax hagar opposed darawiish there was no point for the english to pick sides over 2 warring nomadic tribes non of them were opposed to them

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Cayn means Buuhodle district but the name for The Ain region which includes Caynabo and parts of Buhoodle district.

Caynabo was lost due to 3 reasons.

1. The Ahmed Garaad Dhulos went against the Sayid at the end To save their people, so they had to flee their land to the Deep Hawd.
2. The British were punishing Dhulos and the war was spilling into our territories & many Dhulos fled the whole Nugaal & Hawd were empty by the end of the war & many were lost.
3. By the time people returned Isaaq subclans were settling some of the land including Caynabo, add this with clan ware fare.

Those reasons caused the Ahmed Garaad to settle in the Hawd & Buhoodle area.

Caynaba changed hands in the 50's and the conflcit involving the Mad Mullah ended around 1910 and he died in 1920....

actually caynabo was lost in 1923 caynabo was mentioned in the guba series by salaan carabay Caynaba hadhuub kama dartaan hoga kaliileede
Ke hulleele Hagar aadankii hoobalayn jirayay eh he was refering to cayanbo but nugaal is wrong also on this cayanbo was reer hagar farax hagar if i am correct farax hagar opposed darawiish there was no point for the english to pick sides over 2 warring nomadic tribes non of them were opposed to them

The land was in constant war, the Hagar Adan left. I didn't say the British helped. I said they had problems with the British & The dervishes at this time and left for the deep Hawd.

[JSL3000]

Cayn means Buuhodle district but the name for The Ain region which includes Caynabo and parts of Buhoodle district.

Caynabo was lost due to 3 reasons.

1. The Ahmed Garaad Dhulos went against the Sayid at the end To save their people, so they had to flee their land to the Deep Hawd.
2. The British were punishing Dhulos and the war was spilling into our territories & many Dhulos fled the whole Nugaal & Hawd were empty by the end of the war & many were lost.
3. By the time people returned Isaaq subclans were settling some of the land including Caynabo, add this with clan ware fare.

Those reasons caused the Ahmed Garaad to settle in the Hawd & Buhoodle area.

Stop lying cayn is puntland term made for buhoodle residents feel they still part of caynabo abdullah yusuf brain washed yall now today yall against puntland and still using their terminology caynabo is gone its better to come up with new name for region.