Professor Samatar exposes Farmaajo's revisionism

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

https://youtu.be/1Wg3t9xklHU





Everybody who is in doubt just read Farmaajo's thesis. The man hates Mudulood and Majeerteen with passion. He went so far to even claim MJ are not somalis originally.

[smartyt]

Farmajoo did more good for Mogadishu than all Hawiyie

[MarsinQorahay]

Pure propaganda.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

I support ciiro for president

[smooth]

I haven't read any of the thesis but I take the older Prof Samater words for it, he is a known nationalist and I haven't known him to lie

However, let's be honest here, we all know what we say openly and even worse behind closed doors, let's not be a hypocrite.

The timing of this announcement while he was prime-minister is a bit rare knowing the kind of work he did, his younger buffoon brother attacked HSM, and also Shariif, it's seems every leader that does something is attacked by the Northern clique.

No such attacks on Siilaanyo, Muuse Bixi, Riyaale Kahin and the pure Qabyaalad alliances in S/land to keep Garaxajis out, which invalidates their words.

It's very well known Farmaajo sees Mudug as a the cancer of Somalia and I agree with him on that, had he just went on a rant against HAG leaving his brethren aside, then yes his comments would be worrisome, but he attacked a major sub-clan in both major tribes, no big deal.

He is right candidate at the wrong time in my opinion, why? because mudulood will feast on him with vicious attacks and these thesis will pop up, this will leave him no choice but drive him in the hands of the enemy which would be catastrophic, even worse, possible civil war if other HAG tribes back him.

For this reason and this reason alone, he is not the right candidate for now, he presents too much risks and is the not the type known for patience or being calculative, when he talks he reminds me of Afweyne, MX don't mince their words and they are not known for hypocrisy.

[Advo]

First they said he raped the daughter of a poet
And now his a qabiileeste?

[Halmogg]

Link please

[sahal80]

I haven't read any of the thesis but I take the older Prof Samater words for it, he is a known nationalist and I haven't known him to lie

However, let's be honest here, we all know what we say openly and even worse behind closed doors, let's not be a hypocrite.

The timing of this announcement while he was prime-minister is a bit rare knowing the kind of work he did, his younger buffoon brother attacked HSM, and also Shariif, it's seems every leader that does something is attacked by the Northern clique.

No such attacks on Siilaanyo, Muuse Bixi, Riyaale Kahin and the pure Qabyaalad alliances in S/land to keep Garaxajis out, which invalidates their words.

It's very well known Farmaajo sees Mudug as a the cancer of Somalia and I agree with him on that, had he just went on a rant against HAG leaving his brethren aside, then yes his comments would be worrisome, but he attacked a major sub-clan in both major tribes, no big deal.

He is right candidate at the wrong time in my opinion, why? because mudulood will feast on him with vicious attacks and these thesis will pop up, this will leave him no choice but drive him in the hands of the enemy which would be catastrophic, even worse, possible civil war if other HAG tribes back him.

For this reason and this reason alone, he is not the right candidate for now, he presents too much risks and is the not the type known for patience or being calculative, when he talks he reminds me of Afweyne, MX don't mince their words and they are not known for hypocrisy.

i have read it and i will try to post the link. its a professional piece of work not clanish at all he even calls siyad barre a dictator

however he states that (in the context of explaining the clan conflicts) some clans were against the revolutionary change in 1969 bc they enjoyed a privillage under the colonial powers.

he talks about the USC falling to protect darod citizens

its not really big deal to be honest...the book is against siyad barre too so why we r picking some of its contents out if its context and ignore other contents like barres dictatorship and human right abuses?

i have listened this a couple of days ago and i couldnt believe professor abdi samatar said this about him
wtf is wrong with him?


here is the book
http://www.xogtamedia.com/2016/09/01/u- ... -farmaajo/

[dayax123]

Farmaajo is mentally unstable marked by immaturity and juvinile behavior. He is completely untethered to the reality living in a daydreaming and fantasy world. I would compare him to Hussein Aidid. These two men have got the same mentality and behavior.

[LightAtNight]

I haven't read any of the thesis but I take the older Prof Samater words for it, he is a known nationalist and I haven't known him to lie

However, let's be honest here, we all know what we say openly and even worse behind closed doors, let's not be a hypocrite.

The timing of this announcement while he was prime-minister is a bit rare knowing the kind of work he did, his younger buffoon brother attacked HSM, and also Shariif, it's seems every leader that does something is attacked by the Northern clique.

No such attacks on Siilaanyo, Muuse Bixi, Riyaale Kahin and the pure Qabyaalad alliances in S/land to keep Garaxajis out, which invalidates their words.

It's very well known Farmaajo sees Mudug as a the cancer of Somalia and I agree with him on that, had he just went on a rant against HAG leaving his brethren aside, then yes his comments would be worrisome, but he attacked a major sub-clan in both major tribes, no big deal.

He is right candidate at the wrong time in my opinion, why? because mudulood will feast on him with vicious attacks and these thesis will pop up, this will leave him no choice but drive him in the hands of the enemy which would be catastrophic, even worse, possible civil war if other HAG tribes back him.

For this reason and this reason alone, he is not the right candidate for now, he presents too much risks and is the not the type known for patience or being calculative, when he talks he reminds me of Afweyne, MX don't mince their words and they are not known for hypocrisy.

I completely disagree with the stuff I highlighted, its flawed in so many ways

[LightAtNight]

I support ciiro for president

[theyuusuf143]

The worst leader is the one who suddenly jumps out of no where and gets the popular support of the people. Expect Something bad from that kind of leader. We have seen people like afweyne, cabdi iley and many others who raised as good leaders but committed one of the worst crimes against humanity in the Somali peninsula. This guy is not well tested and he is way too popular , there some thing fishy , be careful guys never support a politician who don't have at least 20 years public life record. You don't know about farmaajo you have seen him only 6 months in public office.

[smooth]

however he states that (in the context of explaining the clan conflicts) some clans were against the revolutionary change in 1969 bc they enjoyed a privillage under the colonial powers.

couple of days ago and i couldnt believe professor abdi samatar said this about him
wtf is wrong with him?


here is the book
http://www.xogtamedia.com/2016/09/01/u- ... -farmaajo/

Thanks I will take a read, I haven't known the older Samater to lie at all before and listened to a lot of his patriotic type of talk but the red flags for me is that I don't see him criticise Somaliland leaders, plain old tuugo and clear cut blood drenched thugs with another running for presidency nothing about them at all.

I will take a read paragraph by paragraph a day, and will deliver my verdict, his younger brother is already a discredited joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if it runs in the family, the apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree and I always wondered why the difference between them is night and day.

Surprisingly, I usually have a complete disdain for the quackademic's that parrot whatever indoctrination they have received as though it's some form of divine knowledge.

I completely disagree with the stuff I highlighted, its flawed in so many ways

Present your counter arguments, the mudug being a cancer is well known, that's were the whole Somali conflict started, as for Mudulood not giving up power quietly, you just need to look at history of clan rule and nepotism which to this day is practised in many parts of Somalia.

Afweyne and his clan with their nepotism had to be forcefully removed in a war, the same happened with HG although they brought some of it upon themselves taking extremist ideology and before/after the Ethiopian's trashing everything they have.

Look at Somaliland and what is happening there, the Habro war's are brewing yet again because a coalition of qabyaalad fraction with severe nepotism won't let go, you think mudulood will just step aside peacefully? and allow a character like Farmaajo to restructure things? and take NGO's and Bank and the rest of their spoils without a fight? Warsheekh himself would fly out and fight

Which planet do you live on? Xamar will burn to the ground, you have absolutely no idea, no were in the history of Somalia post Afweyne did a clan give up power voluntary to another, it's unheard off in the whole of Africa, the UAE knows this and hence their instigation of civil war, and hence my lengthy posts and thread on it, you need to be able to see the writing on the wall and be a few steps ahead of the game, otherwise you will just become a confused pawn

As for Farmaajo when he talks reminding me of Afweyne, this is a view shared by a lot of people, it's subjective, as for the comments that he is not calculative and very reactionary the proof of that could be seen in the 6 months that he ruled, Marexaan and calculative usually doesn't go together, they are die hard nationalist with no hypocrisy and say it as it is, which is why they always get into trouble everywhere.

In his 6 months rule he fell out with Sakiin over the most flimpsy thing, fell out with Kenya big (rightly so but should have been diplomatic) fell out with Amisom (rightly so, but again very in your face argumentative type in public), as a result all of Amisom countries including IC forced Shariif to sack him, just look at how HSM deals with the greatest enemy far worse then those which is UAE, he laughs at the ambassador while he repeatedly stabs him in the back using Turks/Saudi's.

Farmaajo just as he did with the leader of Amisom, would openly rebuke the UAE leader, this would result in the entire UAE public and politician's of them sympathetic to your cause unlike this scum ambassador we have in Xamar, to completely turn against you, you will give the desert spawn credence and credibility which at the moment is not solidified.

This is how you handle people, like Erdogan is handling the USA and NATO openly killing Russian ambassador in his country, and harbouring FETO leader and their clique on top of openly supporting the PYD and PKK, Farmaajo currently in this critical situation in Somalia at it's weakest, is the type of leader not best suited for this time, he is a strong man works best with a strong powerful country with foundations.

Just to let it sink in further, let me remind of what Sheikh Shariif told us when we met him as a group 2 years ago, the turning point he said, was when he sat at an UAE emirate funded AID conference, were he asked them for money to rebuild the country, they pledged only 5 million, to which he responded "keep it, we asked you for money to rebuild the country" this enraged the UAE so bad, as he told us, it was the beginning of the end for him, and he wished he used more diplomacy now that he looks back at it, and uses that single incident as the reason why he wasn't re'elected and lost GCC support.

[mahoka]

Interesting times ahead for all Somalis, it's truly turning to the battle of landheere vs langaab

On one side we have the heavy weights
Ciise, ha, hj, mj abgaal

Then we have the niic gang, the losers
Hg, hy, mx, dhulo etc and all the other langaabs

[mahoka]

Duufle smooth will go on to criticise the prof for not talking about somaliland yet criticises him for talking about Somalia elections. The koonfurians are true cuqdadlayaal