The ULTIMATE DEBATE : is islam a religion of peace?

[Macarons]

Are u saying Arab bedouins thought persians about Mathematics??
Persia befor conquest was a great flourishing civilisation...no sane person would say that the Qureishit brought maths to them.
There is no country or place conquered by arabs and gained something of it.
Mind u Egypt, Syria, Iran were civilised places before Arab conquest.

B.

Comprehension issues? No mention of bedouins or Arabs specifically. I said the great Islamic Civilization civilised the savage, dark age Europeans let alone others. They brought them hygiene, soap, shampoos and medicine. They taught them Algebra and Chemistry...both Arabic words in origin. They developed the scientific method, the basis of modern science!. Gurey was right,there were Jewish chief ministers, and Christian foreign ministers. Many Jews took refuge under Muslims during Byzantine persecution and thrived. So yes, the prior Muslim conquests was the best thing that happened to those nations. Say it after me: Thank you Muslims for the opportunities, Allahu Akbar

I think u have comprehension issue...I am telling u that wat u call the Great Islamic Civilisation is nothing more than the great Iranian civilisation ...civilisation that existed before Islam and after Islam! Islam has nothing to do with the fruit of that civilisation as the persian civilisation predaes Islam!
U r a joke! If Islam had a civilising effect Saudi Arabia would have been the most civilized place ...yet we see their current siuation they dont even know how to make soaps let alone devising algorithms!

B.

The Persian and Byzantine empires were already on the decline. The Islamic conquests were the best thing that happened to them. Science thrived under Muslim rule. The Islamic golden age and Islamic philosophy brought about the Western rennaisance and took Europe out of the dark ages. Saudi is today a US muppet and unfortunately Muslim science has declined since 15th century.

The greatest myth by the Orientalists is that the whole world was dark in the Middle Ages. No, it was only dark in Europe and bright in Baghdad, Al Andalus and beyond.

[gurey25]

isreal is an unnatural entity that cannot be sustained.
The good thing to come out of it is that Isreal compleltly disqualifies everything the west claims to stand for.
Democracy, human rights, the rule of law and justice.

The west is naked now, the next time someone mentions human rights, and democracy,
just tell them you support isreal right? then you have no right to criticise anyone.


utter hypocrisy.

If i was in charge of isreal i would loosen up and institute aparthied like the south africans,
the conditions of palestinians would improve so much, a large percentage of the population would become collaboraters and peace would be achieved at least for a couple of decades.

but the tragectory is now full ethnic cleansing,
its a matter of time now.

[Basra-]

peace would be achieved at least for a couple of decades??? so u admit there can never be peace no matter what! lol


and what do u mean the trajectory is now full ethnic cleansing? U mean--the jews will be wiped off?

[PanSomaliNationalist]

להתפלל עבור ישראל

[gurey25]

peace would be achieved at least for a couple of decades??? so u admit there can never be peace no matter what! lol


and what do u mean the trajectory is now full ethnic cleansing? U mean--the jews will be wiped off?

basra the isrealis thought they could pull an america on the palestinians but unfortunatley they are surrounded by the palestinians brothers.
The job was half finished.
You have alien europeans partially ethnically cleansing a new land for them.

It is a foregone conclusion, the palestinains and " Isreali arabs " will be forced to move to jordan, or exterminted and there is nothing anyone can do about this.

It was a fringe element 15 years ago, and most isrealis thought it was an outrageous idea, today it is debated openly and is seen as a reasonable option.

I suggest you try isreali sources, even the english language Haaretz and Jpost which are santized for foriegn eyes will shock you.
try getting someone who speaks hebrew to translate whats said on tv and newspapers in hebrew and you would believe it.

its the new normal.

I worked with a girl from florida an american jew that was soft zionist before she visited isreal for the first time.
She is now passionately anti isreal..

[Basra-]

gurey

I am also anti Israel . I am also anti Palestine. Both are arrogant. But the Palestines are worst--because --they have in their power to give the land to the Israel as a token of kindness and accept to live next to each other. It is pure arrogance and xasiidniimo that they refuse. Not to mention-- Islam doctrination of vilification of the jews, which in my opinion is ridiculous. God does hate the jews Quran says. God created the jews. End of story.

[bareento]

Basra,
is it true that u r beautiful?

B.