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My 23 & Me Results: Professor Zumaale...

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And others fadlan soo gaala:

I got my dna results back from 23 & Me. I will share my Carrier Status and Traits at a later date but for now explain this to me.

My haplogroups:

Paternal: T-M70 a subgroup of T-M184; Age: 48,000 years ago.
Maternal: Will stay anonymous :) . But it is much younger than paternal haplogroup.

My Ancestral Composition from 31 populations:

East African - 92.4%
Broadly Sub-Saharan African - 0.4%
West African - 0.0%
Central & South African - 0.0%
South Asian - 0.0% (Good to know no Tamil blood in me)
South-East Asian - < 0.1%
Oceanian - < 0.1%
European - 0.2%
MENA - 5.8%
Unassigned - 1.1%

Questions/Comments:

It appears from perusing this site my East African ancestral component is less than most Somalis. I have seen averages of 98% to 99%. Shall I return my "Somalinimo" card back and ask for a full refund?

I have a 6th/7th/8th grandparent born between 1720 to 1790. It doesn't specify whether it was on the paternal side or maternal side. They happened to have been Oceanian and/or South-East Asian. Time frame for both categories are the same, 1720 to 1790. Are they two different people or just one person? They were 100% Oceanian and/or South-East Asian. I can only surmise that it was maternal.

There is a third component that surprised me - though the European portion is only 0.2% - it falls in line with aforementioned paragraph above. I will PM you what that portion is :mrgreen: .

No, it is not the Neanderthal genes. I have fewer Neanderthal variants than 98% of their samples.

Well, there you have it. Jabuutawi's cloak of genetic secrecy has been lifted.
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You should upload on Gedmatch..your Y-dna and autosomal results seem like a typical Somali.

Once you upload on gedmatch,run Eurogenes K13 and post your oracles
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The mighty T strikes once again! How long did it take to get the results?
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Sahibzada why Eurogenes K13 and not puntDNAL or Ethiohelix?

Jabuutawi, where does it give you this info about you 1720 ancestor? I have never seen 23andme give this out. It is probably maternal, Somalis seem a lot more diverse on the maternal side than they are on the paternal side.
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Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:08 am And others fadlan soo gaala:

I got my dna results back from 23 & Me. I will share my Carrier Status and Traits at a later date but for now explain this to me.

My haplogroups:

Paternal: T-M70 a subgroup of T-M184; Age: 48,000 years ago.
Maternal: Will stay anonymous :) . But it is much younger than paternal haplogroup.

My Ancestral Composition from 31 populations:

East African - 92.4%
Broadly Sub-Saharan African - 0.4%
West African - 0.0%
Central & South African - 0.0%
South Asian - 0.0% (Good to know no Tamil blood in me)
South-East Asian - < 0.1%
Oceanian - < 0.1%
European - 0.2%
MENA - 5.8%
Unassigned - 1.1%

Questions/Comments:

It appears from perusing this site my East African ancestral component is less than most Somalis. I have seen averages of 98% to 99%. Shall I return my "Somalinimo" card back and ask for a full refund?

I have a 6th/7th/8th grandparent born between 1720 to 1790. It doesn't specify whether it was on the paternal side or maternal side. They happened to have been Oceanian and/or South-East Asian. Time frame for both categories are the same, 1720 to 1790. Are they two different people or just one person? They were 100% Oceanian and/or South-East Asian. I can only surmise that it was maternal.

There is a third component that surprised me - though the European portion is only 0.2% - it falls in line with aforementioned paragraph above. I will PM you what that portion is :mrgreen: .

No, it is not the Neanderthal genes. I have fewer Neanderthal variants than 98% of their samples.

Well, there you have it. Jabuutawi's cloak of genetic secrecy has been lifted.
:Obama: Am I right in assuming that the only T haplogroup carriers are Dir and HY? Why is your maternal ancestry a secret? Share the love bro or at least PM me. :lupe:
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:dj:

Will respond in more detail, got work to do.

Noolow Awoowo T! :mrgreen:
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Once you upload on gedmatch,run Eurogenes K13 and post your oracles
What further details does it give when I run this? Eurogenes? I don't think I wan to share my info. with Eurotrash, :) .
The mighty T strikes once again! How long did it take to get the results?
The kit took a week to arrive at home and they say 6 to 8 weeks to analyze it. In actuality mine took 4 weeks to finish the analysis. Just spit into the tube and ship it out for free. It gives more than haplogroups. You learn a lot about health and wellness. I recommend it homie.
where does it give you this info about you 1720 ancestor? I have never seen 23andme give this out
Ben, click "Ancestry Composition", scroll down half-way, under "Your Ancestry Timeline" it shows in horizontal color bars.

Interestingly enough, Somalis in general have long stretches of uninterrupted chromosomes unlike Latin populations in the Americas, who have many mixtures of African, European and Native American genes. We Somalis are truly in-breds.
Am I right in assuming that the only T haplogroup carriers are Dir and HY? Why is your maternal ancestry a secret? Share the love bro or at least PM me
I believe there is a pattern forming of Dir/HY coming out T.

Sxb, my family is part of the mucaarad in Djibouti. I do not want to expose them more. Imagine IOG minions asking for my spit at the airport :lol: :lol: :lol: . Perhaps I will share it later.
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Jabuutawi welcome fellow Dir. I am Gadabursi and also a Haplogroup T carrier. In fact I've been on 23andme for a while now but kept it a secret. I will print screen my results and the patterns found along qabiil lines. If you private msg me I'll give you my 23andme details.
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It is a deal fellow Dir. I am Isse.
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Jabuutawi, I do not see timeline on my composition page, are you using the service from North America? I think we get different layouts to you in Europe.

Or are you perhaps alluding to Chromosome view?

Your results are interesting, you have the least amount of East African factor I have seen on 23andme, all the other results range between 96%-99% East African, I myself am on the lower end @94% and you are lower still.

Somalis are definitely inbreds.
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Jabuutawi please comment on my research bro. I'm sure more experts like you and Zuumale are needed to verify if my research was sound.

Thanks bro. I'll message you privately Insh'Allah.
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You're Somali as it can get. How much of MENA is North African? I've noticed from this place that the Somalis fall fall in 2 groups either E-V32 or T-M70. What is the difference between the 2?

To Ben Dover and anybody else who wants to know. The timeline ancestry part of the new layout that is only available to residents of North America. It's not available yet for Europe they are working on it so you will have to wait a lil longer.
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Ben, just like Veganista said. I believe it is a new feature for North American residents, in particular U.S.

I read somewhere by Jamacatul DNA experts that if you are under 95% EA you are not Somali :? . It can't be right, can it?


Thanatophiliac, I will read your thread and post my comment. Full disclosure: I am no where near being an expert on this field. Since I signed up here two things I am coming to grasp with is DNA stuff and FKD sessions...ain't proud of myself homes. I could do without both. They are so divisive, :meles: .

Veganista, thanks for believing in my Somalinimo. What if someone else comes along and has less than 90% EA, are they Somali? Somalis are as homogeneous as they come, we have only two paternal haplogroups, T-M70 and E-V32. I don't believe the Koreans or Japanese can claim that title.
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Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:53 pm Ben, just like Veganista said. I believe it is a new feature for North American residents, in particular U.S.

I read somewhere by Jamacatul DNA experts that if you are under 95% EA you are not Somali :? . It can't be right, can it?


Thanatophiliac, I will read your thread and post my comment. Full disclosure: I am no where near being an expert on this field. Since I signed up here two things I am coming to grasp with is DNA stuff and FKD sessions...ain't proud of myself homes. I could do without both. They are so divisive, :meles: .

Veganista, thanks for believing in my Somalinimo. What if someone else comes along and has less than 90% EA, are they Somali? Somalis are as homogeneous as they come, we have only two paternal haplogroups, T-M70 and E-V32. I don't believe the Koreans or Japanese can claim that title.
That's pure nonsense. As long as your East African component is in the high 80s (at least) and you have no West African component, you are pretty much pure Somali.
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Veganista wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:01 pm You're Somali as it can get. How much of MENA is North African? I've noticed from this place that the Somalis fall fall in 2 groups either E-V32 or T-M70. What is the difference between the 2?
T and E3b both arrived from North Africa/Levant during the Neolithic Farming revolution.. They are heavily associated with the Afro-Asiatic people.
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