How comes Somali ethiopians/Kenyan have abandoned their separatist goals?

[GalliumerianSlayer]

Big difference is that Somaliland is trying to separate from an ethnically Somali nation unlike the


You don't see Somali Kenyans creating a unified secessionist party to leave Kenya, have they forgotten that they voted to join Somali back in the 1960's, they took part in the Shifta war and also had their people killed (Wagalla massacre) till this day the Somali Kenyan are treated like dog shit in their indigenous territories (NFD/ISIOLO county), what's worse is that the Somali Kenyan have embraced the Swahili/bantu culture and neglected their own culture/language.

Somali Kenyans are a lost cause at this point time, they'll be with Kenya for another century at the moment. Did you not see how the Kenyan cheered once Amina lost the nomination earlier this week?

Somalis from ethiopia doesn't even have a unified secessionist parties, you had the WSLF which later became a One clan secessionist state that is still divided till this day, what' more embarrassing is the creation of the heinous liyuu bolice, who massacre Somali nomads across the border, such treachery knows no bounds, they should be all be executed and feed to the crows/ these people have been occupied the longest of all the somalis yet their long occupation has dulled their secessionist struggles ever since our defeat against the USSR and her allies in the useless 77 war.

They are currently in bed with the TPLF but once they fall, let's just say that the Amhara/Oromo/afar aren't going to be happy with Somali ethiopians...

What on earth would a future K5 independent Somali state be called? What on earth would a future independent Somali state from Kenya be called? their constitutions, their political party? borders? flag? we know nothing at the moment, what a shame.

They (K5/NFD) complain about oppression yet have done nothing to defend themselves adequately, gain foreign support, etc.. You have Kenya building a wall between two ethnically Somali territory (Colonial artificial border )

I have to admit, Somalis hope for separating from Ethiopia lies with the Oromo people at the moment and the two ethnic groups have a border issue regarding Dire dawa/bale mountains and Harari.


Basque and Catalonia are unified regions hoping for independence, a shame that Somali 'kenyan' and Somali 'ethiopian' are not unified for their separatists movements.

Leave your comments and please think before you type, certain posters are simply irrational and tend to post asinine posts on a daily basis.

Somali kenyan and ethiopians shed some light why you have abandoned the Separatist struggles.

[Waachis]

Somali Kenyans have no choice bro. they'd get smashed militarily if they sought independence. if they couldn't do it back when somalia was stable and strong, what makes you think they could successfully do it today? it's common sense brother. they might as well take their rightful place in kenya's politics and do their best for their people in Kenya.

[Iqsom]

I especially notice the somali ethiopians have given up. They call themselves "soomaalida itoobiya" ...wtf? Its somalida Somalia. The area of ogaden is somali territory. How can you comply and shamelessly call your land ethiopia?!?! But both are bad. Somalis in kenyan Somalia don't seem to have any somali solidarity whatsoever. The ethiopians are feeding the ogadenis & babying them, wallahi you gotta give it to the amxaras & tigrays for their leadership skills. They're feeding them so that the somalis don't want to go back because they know we can't give them the same treatment. But is materialism more valuable than your identity? Wallahi they act as if they're a minority of ethiopia. The fault lies in what we today call Somalia. Chased their people away & now we're minorities in our own land.

Is harar a part of ogaden? I've seen some maps that indicate that? & allegedly dire dawa is 45% Oromo, 25% Somali, 22% Amhara, the rest gurage & Harari. Was it more Somali in the past? I know the amharas came after the Ethiopians got Ogaden & their agenda of trying to spread their people everywhere.

[KartiHaween]

I especially notice the somali ethiopians have given up. They call themselves "soomaalida itoobiya" ...wtf? Its somalida Somalia. The area of ogaden is somali territory. How can you comply and shamelessly call your land ethiopia?!?! But both are bad. Somalis in kenyan Somalia don't seem to have any somali solidarity whatsoever. The ethiopians are feeding the ogadenis & babying them, wallahi you gotta give it to the amxaras & tigrays for their leadership skills. They're feeding them so that the somalis don't want to go back because they know we can't give them the same treatment. But is materialism more valuable than your identity? Wallahi they act as if they're a minority of ethiopia. The fault lies in what we today call Somalia. Chased their people away & now we're minorities in our own land.

Is harar a part of ogaden? I've seen some maps that indicate that? & allegedly dire dawa is 45% Oromo, 25% Somali, 22% Amhara, the rest gurage & Harari. Was it more Somali in the past? I know the amharas came after the Ethiopians got Ogaden & their agenda of trying to spread their people everywhere.

Why completely dismiss the fact that ONLF is fighting for their freedom while every other Somali clan refuses to fight back? and as a result, the people who are murdered, tortured, imprisoned and raped happen to always be Ogaden. Other somalis clans choose instead, to join liyu police to kill anyone who supports ONLF or is ONLF. You should direct your criticism towards those treacherous refugee Somalis, who, want to live in our lands without having to fight. You are trying stupidly to critizse Ogaden while looking over the fact that the Somalis of Somalia who brag about being free refer Ethiopia as their brothers, Why?. Ogaden for your info you dumb cunt, compared to Ethiopia ARE a minority no matter what. Furthermore, Ogaden both in Kenya unlike the liar op claims never lost their culture, religion or language. You f-king treacherous Somalis do not have a mouth to criticize Ogaden, when it was non Ogaden clans who gave both Ogadenia and NFD to those kuffar regions out of hatred for Ogaden.

[Iqsom]

I especially notice the somali ethiopians have given up. They call themselves "soomaalida itoobiya" ...wtf? Its somalida Somalia. The area of ogaden is somali territory. How can you comply and shamelessly call your land ethiopia?!?! But both are bad. Somalis in kenyan Somalia don't seem to have any somali solidarity whatsoever. The ethiopians are feeding the ogadenis & babying them, wallahi you gotta give it to the amxaras & tigrays for their leadership skills. They're feeding them so that the somalis don't want to go back because they know we can't give them the same treatment. But is materialism more valuable than your identity? Wallahi they act as if they're a minority of ethiopia. The fault lies in what we today call Somalia. Chased their people away & now we're minorities in our own land.

Is harar a part of ogaden? I've seen some maps that indicate that? & allegedly dire dawa is 45% Oromo, 25% Somali, 22% Amhara, the rest gurage & Harari. Was it more Somali in the past? I know the amharas came after the Ethiopians got Ogaden & their agenda of trying to spread their people everywhere.

Why completely dismiss the fact that ONLF is fighting for their freedom while every other Somali clan refuses to fight back? and as a result, the people who are murdered, tortured, imprisoned and raped happen to always be Ogaden. Other somalis clans choose instead, to join liyu police to kill anyone who supports ONLF or is ONLF. You should direct your criticism towards those treacherous refugee Somalis, who, want to live in our lands without having to fight. You are trying stupidly to critizse Ogaden while looking over the fact that the Somalis of Somalia who brag about being free refer Ethiopia as their brothers, Why?. Ogaden for your info you dumb cunt, compared to Ethiopia ARE a minority no matter what. Furthermore, Ogaden both in Kenya unlike the liar op claims never lost their culture, religion or language. You f-king treacherous Somalis do not have a mouth to criticize Ogaden, when it was non Ogaden clans who gave both Ogadenia and NFD to those kuffar regions out of hatred for Ogaden.

I still stand my ground about the attityden of those there. I should say some so i accept thst, but I did say though that it is all somalias fault in the end so what more do you want?!

[UlteriorMotive]

Somali citizens of neighbouring countries are users and leeches. When Somalia was strong and doing better than its neighbours a lot of them sought Somali citizenship. Now that Somalia fell apart they abuse Somali refugees in these countries since they are higher up in the pecking order by virtue of their citizenship.

They want to have their cake and eat it. A bunch of fairweather friends.

If Somali rises again they should be denied citizenship. They are citizens of another country. Good luck to them.

[Strategic]

Guess what i am up to.

[MarsinQorahay]

walle waa yaab, qof ololaya ayaa qof kale ku leh "maxaad u ololi wayday "

[luis1]

The asitution of ONLF is terrible. I dont think ONLF could create Ogadenia in the next years.

[AwRastaale]

They have given up because Somalia is dead.

Ethiopia became too powerful and the Western agenda helped the Ethiopians to crash all the rebels under the pretext of "war on terror".

[GalliumerianSlayer]

They have given up because Somalia is dead.

What a shame indeed.

[EthoPride]

They have given up because Somalia is dead.

Ethiopia became too powerful and the Western agenda helped the Ethiopians to crash all the rebels under the pretext of "war on terror".

Why would they waste their time because they will never be any match for Ethiopia; if Somalis try it again then I promise you not only will we humiliate you but we will build the largest Orthodox church in Mogadishu and convert you by the gun.

Get ready for Christianity........

[TeeriReturns]

I find it ironic a hawiye is dissing somalis in kenya and ethiopia when his people are the biggest obstacle to peace and chased somali muslim same people through war and rape. can you blame for idoors saying we want out of this zoomalia?

forget other daroods, haiyes sell their women to bantus just so they can stay in power, the war lords setting up spaaro are hutus, the rapist are hutus, idoor, Mj, dhulbahante, Oghgaden never raped inside soamlia, the only tribe known for their mass rape during civil wear are marehan and htus who have the same culture, say whatever you weant about dioor but they will not rape you or rob you, same goes for puntlanders and jubbblander Ogadens/Absame.

This nigger say soamli somali somali as if smalia is heaven, the f-king hutus have stolen billions, have told the world if they are not president they will burn what ever is left of the country to the ground yet cannot lead. they cannot do the same as the ethiopian and kenyans and even give them a resbmlece of rights.

warya, all my cousins born in somalia who went to kenyan after the civil wars are government employees with pensions, doctors, engineers, pharmacist from nairobi univerty, somalis have prospered more in kenya thna in somalia, somali millionaires hide their money in kenya, why? didnt soldiers in puntland raid a bank in puntland becasue of over due salaries, this is why, hutus are even worse, dont blame people when you dont have a fucntioning governemnt destroyed by aidid and ali mahdi, the two men who fucked up an opportunity to unite the country but instead starting shooting each other and carried on by their sons/tribesmen,

when you get somalia in order, and i mean you hawiyes because you seem to be the only ones who want to rule somalia and will not give somaliland, putnland and jubbaland Independence if they wanted, fix this shit and then we will have somalis begging you to give them arms and support so they can get out of kenya and ethiopia, if not then let people have a land wjhere they can feed their kids, send them to school, kenya alone has 3 million somali refugees, they have taken in the most, let me ask you stupid kids, would somalia have taken 3 million people of different race and religion? you woukld most likely called adoons all day long,

stupid kids, why would people fight to the death to get out of mayham and then come to a hawiye who will rape them, rob the m with spaaro and refuse for them to be presidents, why would people sacrifice so much knowing you will abuse them, look at how you treat old women who have hasd their homes robbed in moqadishu, look at how you treat girls by giving them bantu soldiers to rape them, look at how tribalism you lot are by paying off think tanks to say only abgaal can be president, what hope does that give to the non abgal kid? why would buysiness man have their investments in zoomali when it will be robbed, say whatever you want about kenyan, they proetc your investment, land and houses are ubnder your deeds, its not perfecrt but it sure is a lot more stable than zoomali,

idot niggers who think they know best and try to make somalia the land of milk and honey,

PS; an dependence Ogaden DDSi will be called Ogadeniya, why have we given up? why would i want my sons and daughters to die when i cam cornered by somalis one one side who work with the Ethiopians and a powerful nation with 100 million that gets billions in military aid, the Tigres want me to make peace, for now i will make peace and get my people educated, multiple, i am smart enough to know when i can fight and when i am out numbered and surrounded, if you lot were so pathetic i would have been killed and spied on by so called fellow muslims/somalis, inmean time i will rule DDSI, watch and keep an eye on ethiopia, educate my children, farm and build business and work with the ethiopians, it seems tio have worked fine for my Ogaden, Dagodi, Muralle and Grre cousins in kenya,

but i promise tyou the day you fix somalia, get it in order, bring the rule of law, make everyone be treated fair, protect proerty liek the islamic sharia demands, you will get the somalis in kenya, ethiopia and djabouti begging to join you as a union like the EU, US etc.

so the questions is, can you get your house in order oh the tribe who claims only they can be become president of Somalia?

when yall turn the country into Switzerland, they will join you like Poland and Romania begged the EU to join them,

[learnmore1]

They have given up because Somalia is dead.

Ethiopia became too powerful and the Western agenda helped the Ethiopians to crash all the rebels under the pretext of "war on terror".

Why would they waste their time because they will never be any match for Ethiopia; if Somalis try it again then I promise you not only will we humiliate you but we will build the largest Orthodox church in Mogadishu and convert you by the gun.

Get ready for Christianity........

I'm an Ethiopian (probably the only ethio member along with Waachis before you came).

Leave this site if all you are going to do is troll

[Strategic]

but i promise tyou the day you fix somalia, get it in order, bring the rule of law, make everyone be treated fair, protect proerty liek the islamic sharia demands, you will get the somalis in kenya, ethiopia and djabouti begging to join you as a union like the EU, US etc.


it is not all hawiye,it is aydiid clan that benefits from death and destruction,that have refused peace and stability in somalia for 27 years.indeed,cursed people.