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Re: Xawaadle PM

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I like to see a end to this duopoly. Its not only two clans in Somalia. Someone other would be refreshing.
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BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:12 pm
SultanOrder wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:42 pm
FAH1223 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:54 pm


My father, mother and Farmaajo go way back about 30 years. I got many photos of all of them including my parent's wedding.

I think my dad wants his older brother to get a position as he and Farmaajo worked together at the Somali Embassy in DC back in the 80s.
Careful, or your uncle will be considered a kacaanist that got his position thanks to nepotism.
cronyism
ˈkrəʊnɪɪz(ə)m/
the appointment of friends and associates to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications.


There are plenty of qualified Hawiye men out there (and women for that matter :x ) and Fah's uncle might be one of them but it shouldn't be an appointment due to friendship

You being depressed about Somalia pre-election and now being all Allahu Akbar hopeful is a bit more like nepotism :lol:
I was talking about the embassy job in the 80's. But hiring qualified friends happens everywhere.

Is my current hopefulness nepotism? Was your unwavering support of XSM despite his corruption and failures more nepotistic? I was very excited about XSM in the beginning as well, so it's not a stretch I would be excited in Farmaajo as the best outcome of a terrible situation. When I support him despite unending failures then you call it nepotism. :mrgreen:
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SultanOrder wrote:
BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:12 pm
cronyism
ˈkrəʊnɪɪz(ə)m/
the appointment of friends and associates to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications.


There are plenty of qualified Hawiye men out there (and women for that matter :x ) and Fah's uncle might be one of them but it shouldn't be an appointment due to friendship

You being depressed about Somalia pre-election and now being all Allahu Akbar hopeful is a bit more like nepotism :lol:
I was talking about the embassy job in the 80's. But hiring qualified friends happens everywhere.

Is my current hopefulness nepotism? Was your unwavering support of XSM despite his corruption and failures more nepotistic? I was very excited about XSM in the beginning as well, so it's not a stretch I would be excited in Farmaajo as the best outcome of a terrible situation. When I support him despite unending failures then you call it nepotism. :mrgreen:

And I specifically said that if he hires people because they are friends (and not qualification) then that is the actual definition of cronyism...

Dude, your shift from there's no point to alahu akbar actually made me laugh out loud, but I'll take it. Hope in Somalia is always welcome

I don't have unwavering support for any politician. I just expect evidence to be provided, the same way you will ask for evidence when Farmaajo is eventually accused of corruption because he will. We need to raise our standards and not base our judgements on hearsay not against XSM and not against Farmaajo. It's fickle. It's not trolling on SNet anymore, we're grown-ups now
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BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:01 pm
SultanOrder wrote:
BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:12 pm
cronyism
ˈkrəʊnɪɪz(ə)m/
the appointment of friends and associates to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications.


There are plenty of qualified Hawiye men out there (and women for that matter :x ) and Fah's uncle might be one of them but it shouldn't be an appointment due to friendship

You being depressed about Somalia pre-election and now being all Allahu Akbar hopeful is a bit more like nepotism :lol:
I was talking about the embassy job in the 80's. But hiring qualified friends happens everywhere.

Is my current hopefulness nepotism? Was your unwavering support of XSM despite his corruption and failures more nepotistic? I was very excited about XSM in the beginning as well, so it's not a stretch I would be excited in Farmaajo as the best outcome of a terrible situation. When I support him despite unending failures then you call it nepotism. :mrgreen:

And I specifically said that if he hires people because they are friends (and not qualification) then that is the actual definition of cronyism...

Dude, your shift from there's no point to alahu akbar actually made me laugh out loud, but I'll take it. Hope in Somalia is always welcome

I don't have unwavering support for any politician. I just expect evidence to be provided, the same way you will ask for evidence when Farmaajo is eventually accused of corruption because he will. We need to raise our standards and not base our judgements on hearsay not against XSM and not against Farmaajo. It's fickle. It's not trolling on SNet anymore, we're grown-ups now
Three prime ministers and bringing back cumar buur who sold our sea to Kenya wasn't evident of failures?

Farmaajo will be corrupt because that is how the system is. But let's see if he can avoid pitfalls that will completely destroy progress.
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SultanOrder wrote: Three prime ministers and bringing back cumar buur who sold our sea to Kenya wasn't evident of failures?

Farmaajo will be corrupt because that is how the system is. But let's see if he can avoid pitfalls that will completely destroy progress.

And there in lies the problem. I don't believe that we can or should assume that someone is corrupt without evidence. 3 PMs is evidence of a lot of things but not corruption. Critical thinking aa naga maqan


If Farmaajo is / does become crap and corrupt then yes shame on him but I fear that those who tried to sabotage XSM will do the same with Farmaajo and this time it will be a lot uglier if we're not more critical in how we consume news
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BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:55 pm
SultanOrder wrote: Three prime ministers and bringing back cumar buur who sold our sea to Kenya wasn't evident of failures?

Farmaajo will be corrupt because that is how the system is. But let's see if he can avoid pitfalls that will completely destroy progress.

And there in lies the problem. I don't believe that we can or should assume that someone is corrupt without evidence. 3 PMs is evidence of a lot of things but not corruption. Critical thinking aa naga maqan


If Farmaajo is / does become crap and corrupt then yes shame on him but I fear that those who tried to sabotage XSM will do the same with Farmaajo and this time it will be a lot uglier if we're not more critical in how we consume news
That's a nice way to look at it. Innocent until proven guilty. But Somalis can sniff out bs. There will be detractors but they don't succeed in there campaign until people have reason to believe them.

People know the system is corrupt and designed to fail. If Farmaajo fails people then they should just destroy this system that has proven itself to be a failure.
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i prefer Hiirshabele president over PM position

i asked many people and they say they r r two different stuff, one is based on a regional power-sharing as abgaals got the capital and the other is the federal govt thats why hiirshabelle is the only admin that works on both sides unlike of many admins

but i fear that if hawadle accepts this position it may reflect on xeerhoosaadka HAG . HG have GM but abgaals only got villa somalia. HG atleast have a share in xamar. all hawadle care about is hiiraan. dont mess with them in hiiraan and you will get their support.

since hawadle started leading hiirshabelle they became rich. they have their our own president who signs for them everything.they kicked out Gaaljecel and baadicade the local HG allies and replaced them with jijeele officials. you know the war between the two of them. we r moving 1000 nomadic families to the farmlands . building a modern baledweyne airport. all the NGOs were hawadle but the former gaaljecel admin who was appointed by the HG interior was making qaylo now the newly appointed by ali osoble are silence so every thing goes to hawadle farmers and families.

hawadle farmers.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0981538841

change in hiiraan
http://aqbaar.so/index.php/2017/01/08/w ... gaaljecel/

http://www.bulshoweyn.com/2017/01/09/ma ... da-bweyne/


i think mx should advise farmajo to HG pm, this is your time to restore your regional glory dont get busy on somaliwayn politics. one signature and you can change your security situation!.
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MX should not advise Farmaajo on any PM. Farmaajo is not the kaabo qabiil of MX, he is the President of Somalia.

Farmaajo's team of all clans should advise him on the PM to realize their objective of bringing back Somalia.
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Voltage wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:23 am MX should not advise Farmaajo on any PM. Farmaajo is not the kaabo qabiil of MX, he is the President of Somalia.

Farmaajo's team of all clans should advise him on the PM to realize their objective of bringing back Somalia.
kkkk farmajo must leave behind some mx legacy like every abgaal president did but not in xamar sidaad hada kahor ugu xoolo beesheen i mean in your stronghlds!

he can change the situation just like that
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what we want from farmaajo is maamul wanaag. rest must make his subclan allies. he must put first the guys who voted for him and were after the pm post not the president post if he ignores them he will lose all. best for farmajo is MX-HG-murursade coalition a new jubba valley version. after 3 years, mx power must reflect on their regional elections then they can have influence on 2020 elections.
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farmaajo.will be the biggest qabiliste if he doesnt pick abgaal hg or mj prime.minister.. how.can u suppport xawaadle.over abgaal when abgaal were the biggest supporter of farmaajo
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Khalid Ali wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:33 am farmaajo.will be the biggest qabiliste if he doesnt pick abgaal hg or mj prime.minister.. how.can u suppport xawaadle.over abgaal when abgaal were the biggest supporter of farmaajo
i agree this will damage his credibility and will lose all. it will put him as anti-hiraab=qabilist

these people trusted him like their son he should too. but its too early. not daruuri abgaal. MX get on with HG. la iskuma diri karo.
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HG should be either PM or Mogadishu mayor, same goes for Abgaal
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As Sultan said, Farmaajo will inevitably have to engage in a level of dirt, clan and all that stuff no matter how much he campainged against it. Thats the climate he will have to operate in. Sometimes You gotta make lemonade out of xaar not even lemons.
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And Murax is back too. All we are missing is Sadeboi and we will shall declare 2017, the year of Quule
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Lool Siciid85 sup sxb long time
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