Real Farmaajo supporters are not the ones starting tribal topics

[MujahidAishah]

liquid hydrogen does not support xamar

guray is just being political correct and he hopes the best for the walanweyns but he does not know the walanweyns are the only enemy we have. he will see that

sahan galbeed is a jabuutian female.cross dresser

Warya khalid sahan haa cayiin I like he's outside the box thinking inanka waa indrka aflaagada jooji

[X.Playa]

What a surprising turn of events.
its always pleasant when an underdog wins..

lets hope he is a real leader, instead of the rubbish we have had till now..
we can only hope

Gurey take your face out of Arab news papers and latest western buzz and learn basic Somali politics.

Read his master degree thesis. It's online. Farmaajo is a tribalism zombie to the core and he defends and have defended Afweyne blindly.

SO how dare you not know the basic? Itsnt like he is new he is the ex priminister and his clannish neo Faqash outlook is well known.

Voltage? so all of a sudden all deceased Daarood forum members are coming back to life! Amazing power of tribalism. I won't be surprised if Afweyne walks out of his grave skull and bone giving victory sign to his fellow faqash.

Xplaya you are as big a qabiilist as them, you are just clouded by hate to see the big picture.
Somaliland is a dead man walking, we dropped the ball through childish tribalism and our politicians are irredeemably corrupt and treasonous as well as utterly incompetent.

Somalia is a colony with little say in their affairs but they have allot of dynamism , within a few years they caught up to us in building institutions , their civil society and economy is much better than us.
They dont have a few oligarchs monopolizing everything and blocking economic progress.

Somaliland is sleepwalking into a federal state and this is likely to be our last election as an independent state,
within a few years we will be no different to Puntland or jubaland.

Unlike you i care about the somali nation as a whole, and i welcome any progress anywhere.

If you were looking at the big picture you will welcome a more virulent qabiilist government in xamar, that actively attacks somaliland diplomatically and economically as well as with propaganda because it will wake up somaliland from its sleepwalking.
A little bit of conflict is whats needed to get the juices flowing.
I doubt that farmajo is that person, he will most likely do the same as HSM .

The status quo keeps our treasonous and incompetent political class in power, and gaurentees our loss of sovereignty wihtin a few years. Someone like you who is a virulent qabiilist and sees no relationship with our brothers in somalia should welcome
a more confrontational government in xamar.
Its the only thing that cn save Somaliland.

As for me ive lost interest a long time ago.

You were not interested in Somaliland to begin with , your cause was Palestine and Arabs and their regions as most Somali middle easterners are. There is corruption everywhere even among your beloved Arabs and even the West. With politics corruption is natural and that is not something one should uproot his country for and " love his enemy" , you claim you care about all Somalis , I doubt it very much if you know anything about these Somalis you profess love to , a sheltered middle eastern Somali much versed in Arabic cartoons then the history of the curse called Somalia would hide his ignorance by professing a lofty sentiment. I don't give a rat's ass about Somalia , I care about my neck of the wood and that's is Somaliland and I do care about my kind wether you call it tribalism or whatever the world is built on tribalism , Arabism , Islamism, Europeanism , Africanism and millions of isims , why mine is unholy yours holly?

You giving up or not in Somaliland is not something to loose sleep over , you hardly know what is Somaliland and where they came from and what they went through . My initial response was regarding your blatant ignorance. I could not believe you were that ill informed and sleeping under a rock when it comes to Somali politics , at least get the 101s and spend the rest of your life in the affairs of the Arabs and the West. That type of ignorance one can accept but waiting to be rescued by Farmaajo a man that openingly states the glorious history of his uncle and his Daarood and accusing your kind of destroying the Somali state and dismissing your entire lost as nothing but a charade , waiting to be rescued by such is a capital offence. But since you are from the middle east , you are given the benefit of ignorance .

[Xildiiid]

PerfectOrder,

You already have a United Somalia i.e Raas Caseyr to Raas Kamboni or in modern federalism terms from 'Puntland to Jubbaland'.

Your insincerity and subliminal attack on Somaliland starts when you include my country in your Walaweyn fairytale.

Somalia (former Somalia Italiana) has no right to claim my county and as long as shitty Walaweyns like yourself and your dirty politicians claim my country dagaal baa inaga dhexeeya.

Fuck you and your unity.

[Advo]

Whether u like it or not, Somalia will continue to prosper and normalcy will return at full capacity. Somaliland will willingly and completely on their own come to the negotiation table. I know it hurts after all that ra-ra-ra talk but u can't stop reality from happening.

[Xildiiid]

Negotiating table? Lol

Your country is not Israel but a 3rd World Bantu colony.

Only a fool would think that we would accept our country to be ruled by another country.

[Khalid Ali]

Whether u like it or not, Somalia will continue to prosper and normalcy will return at full capacity. Somaliland will willingly and completely on their own come to the negotiation table. I know it hurts after all that ra-ra-ra talk but u can't stop reality from happening.

somalia will not prosper one man cannot change the cesspool in xamar see u in six months and u can tell us his accomplishments alshabaab amisom gabre ethiopia i doubt this man can make things happen. besides the talks were dead during hsm era there wont be any talks with xamar in the next coming decade. somaliland will not talk to afweynes remnants.

[gurey25]

You were not interested in Somaliland to begin with , your cause was Palestine and Arabs and their regions as most Somali middle easterners are. There is corruption everywhere even among your beloved Arabs and even the West. With politics corruption is natural and that is not something one should uproot his country for and " love his enemy" , you claim you care about all Somalis , I doubt it very much if you know anything about these Somalis you profess love to , a sheltered middle eastern Somali much versed in Arabic cartoons then the history of the curse called Somalia would hide his ignorance by professing a lofty sentiment. I don't give a rat's ass about Somalia , I care about my neck of the wood and that's is Somaliland and I do care about my kind wether you call it tribalism or whatever the world is built on tribalism , Arabism , Islamism, Europeanism , Africanism and millions of isims , why mine is unholy yours holly?

You giving up or not in Somaliland is not something to loose sleep over , you hardly know what is Somaliland and where they came from and what they went through . My initial response was regarding your blatant ignorance. I could not believe you were that ill informed and sleeping under a rock when it comes to Somali politics , at least get the 101s and spend the rest of your life in the affairs of the Arabs and the West. That type of ignorance one can accept but waiting to be rescued by Farmaajo a man that openingly states the glorious history of his uncle and his Daarood and accusing your kind of destroying the Somali state and dismissing your entire lost as nothing but a charade , waiting to be rescued by such is a capital offence. But since you are from the middle east , you are given the benefit of ignorance .

Xplaya you are bieng emotional, we need to deal with the cold hard facts.
Our leadership is incompetent and do not have the interests of Somaliland and are not fit to deal with the challenges ahead.
The current path that we are on is leading to a federal state, whether you like it or not, you cannot bury your head in the sand in live in fantasy world.
I do not support this, i have always stated that i believe in a more natural and organic movement toowards union, with the correct pace. A Somaliland that collapses and is forced into a federal state by the international community will lead to an Islamist revolution that will invite Ethiopian and AU "peacekeepers" and US drone strikes.
It will be alshabab X 2.

I know for a fact that wnalaweyne do not respect Somaliland, do not respect the SNM ,
allot of darood resent us for bringing down their little kingdom.
You cannot wallow in tribalism its unproductive, you need to direct you hatred towards the right target.

NOt being a small minded qabiilist like you doesnt mean i am ciyaal casiir ignorant of somali politics , i travel to somaliland often
ive recently been in hargiesa twice already this year, and ive visited xamar for the first time since 1985.
I know allot of our politicians personally , particularly kulmiye party members.

I believe i have a better perspective than you, and i still believe in somalinimo.
Nothing is hopeless, there is always a solution and you can always find opportunity in the worst situations.

somalia will not prosper one man cannot change the cesspool in xamar see u in six months and u can tell us his accomplishments alshabaab amisom gabre ethiopia i doubt this man can make things happen. besides the talks were dead during hsm era there wont be any talks with xamar in the next coming decade. somaliland will not talk to afweynes remnants.

Khalid Somalia while having less power over their territories than somaliland, while practically a UN colony
is prospering far better than Somaliland.
Smooth was not lying when he talked about the SL brain drain towards Somalia,
There are tens of thousands of Somalilanders living and working in xamar, and many more arrive everyday.

[Khalid Ali]

guray u are just a doomsayer what do u consider prospering somaliland does have its challenges i see a country moving forward particularly in the private sector i have been living in somaliland for the past 2 years and it can only get better u said the ic is forcing us to come under the darood amisom colony in xamar how so what are ur proofs. i see here in sl that we get our aid separately we get our fundings separately we have great numbers of dealings with very important countries in the region so tell us how this darood kid from xamar will rule over us somaliland has become only stronger the past 3 years in areas of security in ereas of development surely we have a long way to go. but somaliland uniting with somalia is pipe dream.. but keep ur heads high believing cheese man can turn somalia into an utopia.

[X.Playa]

You were not interested in Somaliland to begin with , your cause was Palestine and Arabs and their regions as most Somali middle easterners are. There is corruption everywhere even among your beloved Arabs and even the West. With politics corruption is natural and that is not something one should uproot his country for and " love his enemy" , you claim you care about all Somalis , I doubt it very much if you know anything about these Somalis you profess love to , a sheltered middle eastern Somali much versed in Arabic cartoons then the history of the curse called Somalia would hide his ignorance by professing a lofty sentiment. I don't give a rat's ass about Somalia , I care about my neck of the wood and that's is Somaliland and I do care about my kind wether you call it tribalism or whatever the world is built on tribalism , Arabism , Islamism, Europeanism , Africanism and millions of isims , why mine is unholy yours holly?

You giving up or not in Somaliland is not something to loose sleep over , you hardly know what is Somaliland and where they came from and what they went through . My initial response was regarding your blatant ignorance. I could not believe you were that ill informed and sleeping under a rock when it comes to Somali politics , at least get the 101s and spend the rest of your life in the affairs of the Arabs and the West. That type of ignorance one can accept but waiting to be rescued by Farmaajo a man that openingly states the glorious history of his uncle and his Daarood and accusing your kind of destroying the Somali state and dismissing your entire lost as nothing but a charade , waiting to be rescued by such is a capital offence. But since you are from the middle east , you are given the benefit of ignorance .

Xplaya you are bieng emotional, we need to deal with the cold hard facts.
Our leadership is incompetent and do not have the interests of Somaliland and are not fit to deal with the challenges ahead.
The current path that we are on is leading to a federal state, whether you like it or not, you cannot bury your head in the sand in live in fantasy world.
I do not support this, i have always stated that i believe in a more natural and organic movement toowards union, with the correct pace. A Somaliland that collapses and is forced into a federal state by the international community will lead to an Islamist revolution that will invite Ethiopian and AU "peacekeepers" and US drone strikes.
It will be alshabab X 2.

I know for a fact that wnalaweyne do not respect Somaliland, do not respect the SNM ,
allot of darood resent us for bringing down their little kingdom.
You cannot wallow in tribalism its unproductive, you need to direct you hatred towards the right target.

NOt being a small minded qabiilist like you doesnt mean i am ciyaal casiir ignorant of somali politics , i travel to somaliland often
ive recently been in hargiesa twice already this year, and ive visited xamar for the first time since 1985.
I know allot of our politicians personally , particularly kulmiye party members.

I believe i have a better perspective than you, and i still believe in somalinimo.
Nothing is hopeless, there is always a solution and you can always find opportunity in the worst situations.

somalia will not prosper one man cannot change the cesspool in xamar see u in six months and u can tell us his accomplishments alshabaab amisom gabre ethiopia i doubt this man can make things happen. besides the talks were dead during hsm era there wont be any talks with xamar in the next coming decade. somaliland will not talk to afweynes remnants.

Khalid Somalia while having less power over their territories than somaliland, while practically a UN colony
is prospering far better than Somaliland.
Smooth was not lying when he talked about the SL brain drain towards Somalia,
There are tens of thousands of Somalilanders living and working in xamar, and many more arrive everyday.

Who denies corruption? we have some of the most incompetent elites of all Somali tribes followed by hawiye. We also have the least intellectuals among all the clans. The hawiye have their behind the curtain group of thinkers and academic who advice and drive the agenda of their politicians , the daarood have an entire brigade of probagandist intellectuals who drive the Daarood agenda.

We have Oto Biixi, Jamal Qoor Gaab, Faysal a talking head , and assortment of illiterate elders, pay-as-they-speak clan chiefs and habar vs habar warriors and an entire merchant class that sucking the country dry and that made a fortune in managing capital flight and a youth intoxicated with Facebook love drama and tahriib adventure.

Your solution is to give up and surrender to the enemy while admitting the Daarood and Hawiye have a vendetta against us yet you believe in the somalinimo-scheme! It's a contradiction.

Mine is a pure logic, I don't believe in the somalinimo ponzy scheme nor I regard the Daarood and Hawiye as our fellow Somalis. I can write volumes on their hypocrisy. Couple days ago I visited hadhwanaagnews recomended by kingwaslaawi regarding something about Farmaajo, didn't find what he alluded too instead i clicked on a program about Farmaajo and his position on SL vs Somalia issue.

The program was broadcasted by Kalsan tv faqash outlet of course employing a northern and the anchor sounded a northern from his accent he had two guest both mps who voted for Farmaajo both southerners. Asked who Farmaajo would choose for primeminster one of the walaweyn blurred it out right away he said " ofcourse taas hawiyaa is ka leh" the anchor then said why so what about the other clans ?, him been a northern dimwit didn't pursue the question, that could have exposed the walaweyn and Faqash hypocrisy on put them on the spot light.

We lack the killer instinct in our people, and that is due to the clouds of soft elites that hang over them constantly, they watch and listen and mimick them as robots. Our elites have developed for some reason a familiar soft mushy stands and effeminate demeanour when dealing with their enemies, speech, tone and choice of words employed are all indirectly hurt our cause and indoctrinate our people that this submissive plaintiff tune is the standard in our politics. I crinch everytime one of them say Somalia ha aqoonsato SL , how can one part recognize another part of the same republic the Somali republic, bad choice of words, it implies we were a province of them. What they mean but fail to grasp is that Somalia and Somaliland should agree on dissolving the failed union.

Look at the SL goverment congratulating Farmaajo! Have they ever congratulated us in our embryonic democracy? Why should we congradulate them on their selection which is not even an election.? Why not totally ignore them just like they ignore ours.

Even the SL case is hardly articulated by any SL apart from few like Maxamed Xaashi. The southerners in their perpetual quest to dismiss our history claim the reason we withdrew from the failed union ( notice my choice of words not succession as they wish us to say) is due to the war and genocide in the northe in the 1980s , instead of replying to this offensive narrative our youth have bought this version and one look at Facebook is enough , posting songs like " anaku Xamar xumaan la dooni mayno and xasuuqi maanu ilaawin). I can go on and on the point we lack the intellectual and visionary calibre to challenge their relentless onslaught all due to our elite and politicians .

All above granted what you advocating is a total surrender under the ruse of " somalinimo " I say you are confused. These politicians stand on one leg and that is their public media exposure a simple radio program broadcasted daily to all people where these defunct politicians are exposed is enough. People know these politicians don't represent their position, if you ask the average Isaaq about khaatumo they would say fuckk these faqash let the army go in , if you ask Dahabshiil, the politicians and clan chiefs they would say with tears oh our sweet brothers should rule us we are willing to make all of them president, There is a chasom between the people and politicians and the elite.

Why should I abandon my country because of politicians and clan chiefs and rich leeches?

[BigBreak]

I swear that despite him rejecting the true religion of islam I absolutely love the unwavering patriotism and historical accuracy x playa always portrays regarding our nation the republic of Somaliland

[FAH1223]

Gurey is a realist

[Ben Dover]

Gurey is overcome with emotion. Very unlike him.

The good professor is on the money. We have so many problems, an incompetent political class, natural calamities, basically it looks bad but this is in no way a good reason to submit and surrender to people you agree hold ill-will towards you.

For a history buff you sure seem in a hurry to repeat the same mistake we committed in 1960.

Let us think of ways to fix our country. The walaweyn aid project is not the answer.

[Gabre]

What a surprising turn of events.
its always pleasant when an underdog wins..

lets hope he is a real leader, instead of the rubbish we have had till now..
we can only hope

Gurey take your face out of Arab news papers and latest western buzz and learn basic Somali politics.

Read his master degree thesis. It's online. Farmaajo is a tribalism zombie to the core and he defends and have defended Afweyne blindly.

SO how dare you not know the basic? Itsnt like he is new he is the ex priminister and his clannish neo Faqash outlook is well known.

Voltage? so all of a sudden all deceased Daarood forum members are coming back to life! Amazing power of tribalism. I won't be surprised if Afweyne walks out of his grave skull and bone giving victory sign to his fellow faqash.

Xplaya you are as big a qabiilist as them, you are just clouded by hate to see the big picture.
Somaliland is a dead man walking, we dropped the ball through childish tribalism and our politicians are irredeemably corrupt and treasonous as well as utterly incompetent.

Somalia is a colony with little say in their affairs but they have allot of dynamism , within a few years they caught up to us in building institutions , their civil society and economy is much better than us.
They dont have a few oligarchs monopolizing everything and blocking economic progress.

Somaliland is sleepwalking into a federal state and this is likely to be our last election as an independent state,
within a few years we will be no different to Puntland or jubaland.

Unlike you i care about the somali nation as a whole, and i welcome any progress anywhere.

If you were looking at the big picture you will welcome a more virulent qabiilist government in xamar, that actively attacks somaliland diplomatically and economically as well as with propaganda because it will wake up somaliland from its sleepwalking.
A little bit of conflict is whats needed to get the juices flowing.
I doubt that farmajo is that person, he will most likely do the same as HSM .

The status quo keeps our treasonous and incompetent political class in power, and gaurentees our loss of sovereignty wihtin a few years. Someone like you who is a virulent qabiilist and sees no relationship with our brothers in somalia should welcome
a more confrontational government in xamar.
Its the only thing that cn save Somaliland.

As for me ive lost interest a long time ago.

Exactly. People forget that Texas was an independent country for awhile after it declared and won independence from Mexico. Then, it was incorporated into the USA as a federal state. We are on the same path for Somaliland, there are so many similar mirror steps.

Somaliland will be Somalia's Lone Star State. Berbera it's Houston and Hargeysa it's Austin. Burco the Dallas.

[Khalid Ali]

gabre go free daroods from ethiopia



guray will see in 4 years time that the darood leadership has brought nothing.

thinking sl will unite with xamar.lol

in 2022

there is a bigger chance israel accepting the 2 state solution border 1967

guray has become soft war is.xeji niyo for the first time we have a real enemy in the south this is the time aynu kala baxayney and for a long time sl govt has started real hard stance on dirty woqoyis and it deals with them in a very harsh way. i am liking kulmiye more and more. in the begin it was all.kumbaya talks with somalia but now the gloves are off. wait six months when we elect moses the messiah and he doesn't joke around. we will take sl to the next level dadka yidha xamar is the solution to sl problem's are just cowards..so because we have problems we should give in to our enemies what kind of defeatist mentality is that. walanweyns are broken cheese gave them little hope we will take that hope away from them and make sure alshabaab takes a clear political role in southern somalia thats the future.

[original dervish]

Most knowledgeable secessionists realised that s/l only had a limited window of opportunity to gain recognition.
The strategy was based on a perpetually failing south and Ethiopia breaking ranks and recognising s/l.

Thirty years later any iidoor with a brain understands the time for recognition has passed.
Every step forward for the south pushes s/l , as an independent country, further into it's grave.