Mudullod elders told by Farmaajo to choose btwn Ministry of Interior or governor of Banaadir

[Kornel]

Noolasha Cusub so dhaweey


http://newsomali.com/2017/02/26/madaxwe ... a-kulanka/

Haye ka waraama, I just think you should give the real cockney boys of xamar, the maskiin reer mataan a chance to lead their home town, harti-abgaal has jowhar and hirshabelle and daud for minister of interior,

[X.Playa]

Poor Abgaal . Probably they are the only clan Farmaajo rule their region loool appointing even governors. What a divine poetic justice. This clan thought they have it all using the capital argument. Now they don't have nothing no president no prime minister and not even a federal state.

From riches to rags . As the walaweyn say goes mac sonkor.

[MrSinister]

Mudolood has always and will always have their place in Somalia. Occasionally, they get mislead by other hawiye.

[Advo]

Abgaal had TWO presidency back to back, how are they "poor" ? They make up and own majority of the Capitol, so they will always eat. Nice try at trying to instigate a feud between certain clans lol

Landers should redraw their plans in the IPG
I don't have access to it anymore but if I did

[fanaanYG]

Banadir nothing will change, it will be the way its between Mudulood, HG, Murudsade and cad cad, governor of banadir will always be Mudulood.

Mudulood will take a break from Presidency job and focus on Hirshabeele, revolution starts tomorrow in few hours time, to get rid off Hirshabeele president, then link jawhar to ceeldheer and take back ceeldheer from galmudug, its up to galmudug to take matabaan from hiiraan which they already control, Mudulood will create hovoc to land lock hiiraan, and take back mudulood hiiraan lands and link with Jawhar, new port build in cadale and link Mogadishu cadale and ceeldheer. New Maamul goboleed revolutions will take place, Puntland will split into mini states, Galmudug ahlusuna join will depend if they agree or not and will stay how they are now or join, Hiiraan will split in to each clans tuulo, Mudulood will link between ceeldheer and Mogadishu, shabeelada hoose to kismayu will see new wars.

[Murax]

Tabloid nonsense. Pay it no mind.

[smooth]

Banadir nothing will change, it will be the way its between Mudulood, HG, Murudsade and cad cad, governor of banadir will always be Mudulood.

Mudulood will take a break from Presidency job and focus on Hirshabeele, revolution starts tomorrow in few hours time, to get rid off Hirshabeele president, then link jawhar to ceeldheer and take back ceeldheer from galmudug, its up to galmudug to take matabaan from hiiraan which they already control, Mudulood will create hovoc to land lock hiiraan, and take back mudulood hiiraan lands and link with Jawhar, new port build in cadale and link Mogadishu cadale and ceeldheer. New Maamul goboleed revolutions will take place, Puntland will split into mini states, Galmudug ahlusuna join will depend if they agree or not and will stay how they are now or join, Hiiraan will split in to each clans tuulo, Mudulood will link between ceeldheer and Mogadishu, shabeelada hoose to kismayu will see new wars.

People will take your post as a wind up, although I don't entirely agree, you are pretty much on track with this, Farmaajo's plan which I wrote in SSpot topic is Anti federalism and for that to work, he has to first dismantle the whole thing one delicate piece at a time and the rest will crumble on itself. If he doesn't destroy federalism he will FAIL, any Quasi federalism that you typed will fail even harder!!

HSM wanted to do the same thing, but the Ethiopian influence was way too strong and he had no concrete plans or long term strategy plan A/B other than bribing this candidate or that candidate with no public support unlike Farmaajo who is more popular in every region then the actual federal leader which is a unique position no one else had, he also has a concrete plan.

If he starts with & miscalculates in Galmudug he will be toast very quickly, with Guleed gone, this will be the most complicated issue, any stupid move for either ceeldheere, or appoint that Sufi Bakhti Saint whose group is actually divided in 3 fractions, will be his downfall much like Barre regime, the whole conflict started there.

If he tries appointing governors in Galmudug first, the neutral/supportive Sacad/Saleeban will rebel against him 100% & form a coalition with fractions of Mudulood and he will be gone very quickly, even ceyr fractions would join, there is already simmering low level anger building up for his shady dealings with them and dishonesty.

The best thing for him is to remain quiet and see how things play out there and focus on low hanging easy fruits like Hiirshabelle to set the powerful precedent first, it will be the most easiest to dismantle as they are the most fragile, once it collapses, begin to appoint mayors to each city.

This will set a massive precedent and shock-wave across the country and I am pretty sure both sides will favour this more than current arrangements. Most Somali's are Anti Federalism anyway, it just needs someone to ignite the fuse to collapse the entire Ethiopian project up and down the entire country.

P/land as a state will collapse on it's own weight nothing needs to be done there, just needs to be quiet about it, the same will happen in S/land, J/land and South-West will be tricky due to Ethiopian troops there with the latter already crumbling, the real easy litmus test will come in Hiirshabelle, if he doesn't take that golden opportunity to send the shock-waves he will fail miserably.

In fact if he persists with the federalism model he will fail, because the moment the wave of populism dies down, all it takes is 1/2 of those leaders to turn against him which is inevitable, his entire government will become ineffective as the renegades will ally naturally with Ethiopia against him, Federalism is basically that open door, that gateway for Ethiopian to continue destabilising Somalia, it needs to be destroyed.

It's the same mistake HSM made, he tried the centralised model haphazardly, the dumbest mistake was to publicly oppose federalism which immediately made him enemy number one, when it failed he tried to become Pro Ethiopia himself to counter the federal states opposed to him, this type of problem will not exist in a governor centralised model, each dude is busy on his own city/village with no collective responsibilities.

Farmaajo despite his populism if he makes the mistake announcing this, he will be toast as well, the Hiirshabelle opportunity is one of a life-time, that his predecessors didn't have, this will be the key to everything.

[fanaanYG]

Banadir nothing will change, it will be the way its between Mudulood, HG, Murudsade and cad cad, governor of banadir will always be Mudulood.

Mudulood will take a break from Presidency job and focus on Hirshabeele, revolution starts tomorrow in few hours time, to get rid off Hirshabeele president, then link jawhar to ceeldheer and take back ceeldheer from galmudug, its up to galmudug to take matabaan from hiiraan which they already control, Mudulood will create hovoc to land lock hiiraan, and take back mudulood hiiraan lands and link with Jawhar, new port build in cadale and link Mogadishu cadale and ceeldheer. New Maamul goboleed revolutions will take place, Puntland will split into mini states, Galmudug ahlusuna join will depend if they agree or not and will stay how they are now or join, Hiiraan will split in to each clans tuulo, Mudulood will link between ceeldheer and Mogadishu, shabeelada hoose to kismayu will see new wars.

People will take your post as a wind up, although I don't entirely agree, you are pretty much on track with this, Farmaajo's plan which I wrote in SSpot topic is Anti federalism and for that to work, he has to first dismantle the whole thing one delicate piece at a time and the rest will crumble on itself. If he doesn't destroy federalism he will FAIL, any Quasi federalism that you typed will fail even harder!!

HSM wanted to do the same thing, but the Ethiopian influence was way too strong and he had no concrete plans or long term strategy plan A/B other than bribing this candidate or that candidate with no public support unlike Farmaajo who is more popular in every region then the actual federal leader which is a unique position no one else had, he also has a concrete plan.

If he starts with & miscalculates in Galmudug he will be toast very quickly, with Guleed gone, this will be the most complicated issue, any stupid move for either ceeldheere, or appoint that Sufi Bakhti Saint whose group is actually divided in 3 fractions, will be his downfall much like Barre regime, the whole conflict started there.

If he tries appointing governors in Galmudug first, the neutral/supportive Sacad/Saleeban will rebel against him 100% & form a coalition with fractions of Mudulood and he will be gone very quickly, even ceyr fractions would join, there is already simmering low level anger building up for his shady dealings with them and dishonesty.

The best thing for him is to remain quiet and see how things play out there and focus on low hanging easy fruits like Hiirshabelle to set the powerful precedent first, it will be the most easiest to dismantle as they are the most fragile, once it collapses, begin to appoint mayors to each city.

This will set a massive precedent and shock-wave across the country and I am pretty sure both sides will favour this more than current arrangements. Most Somali's are Anti Federalism anyway, it just needs someone to ignite the fuse to collapse the entire Ethiopian project.

P/land as a state will collapse on it's own weight nothing needs to be done there, just needs to be quiet about it, the same will happen in S/land, J/land and South-West will be tricky due to Ethiopian troops there with the latter already crumbling, the real easy litmus test will come in Hiirshabelle, if he doesn't take that golden opportunity to send the shock-waves he will fail miserably.

In fact if he persists with the federalism model he will fail, because the moment the wave of populism dies down, all it takes is 1/2 of those leaders to turn against him which is inevitable, his entire government will become ineffective as they will ally naturally with Ethiopia, it's the same mistake HSM made, this is not the case with small governors whom are not only easy to control but are so dispersed throughout each village/city there voices don't carry much weight and they will be more concerned on local politics.

This is a shicib government, and have no relationship except ahlusuna and Jland, this means each maamul goboleed have to sort its self out.

for Galmudug its funny if its true what i am hearing, suddenly after guuleed resigned Xaaf and ahlusuna sheekh shaakir the two anti galmudug both now don want to be president.

Sheekh shaakir only want a name change from galmudug to goboladadhexe, which means galmudug and ahlusuna will be two maamul near future. Hirshabeele abgaal mindiyaha u soofeysan after all they have most lucrative lands farm and sea its possible now that both HG and abgaal are out not happy with the current ragime, mudulood will play Hiraab card they already working raod build to hobyo so there is possible alliance.

[smooth]

You missed my point sxb, If he takes the federalism approach he will FAIL miserably, you getting a little carried away here, not sure if your posts are intentional to piss targeted people off, because I am in support of Farmaajo and hope he succeeds.

In fact I support any government that comes there, give them the benefit of the doubt for at least 18 months, in fact if he keeps the entire Hiraab/MJ out, it would be a great step in the right direction and give the others a chance of rule, I posted this before the PM was selected.

And btw this was the view of Sheikh Shariif & Prof Shirwac who told Farmaajo not to appoint from them after they witnessed the is qabqabsi, I very much doubt Farmaajo would take the gamble otherwise, deep down he was happy as he didn't want to appoint them anyway and I don't blame him for it.

It's perfect just like I wanted it, I don't want to hear any excuses later with motions and the rest, as for the road you are talking about, that was announced 3 years ago and work started a while back, it has no relations to what your talking about sxb.

[vinshom]

Its un acceptable, this will be the beginning of the end for Mr Farmaajo.

[smooth]

Its un acceptable, this will be the beginning of the end for Mr Farmaajo.

Iska fadhiiso sxb, there is a lot of background stuff had you known you wouldn't have typed this, those wishing for failure from the comforts of the West have no ounce of Somalinimo in them or any regard for those back-home that will bare the brunt.


If your pissed at some Darood President due to qabyaalad, you have no one but your pathetic leaders to blame for this, in fact these horrific leaders turned much of the younger HAG into the most fierce hardcore Somaliweyn nationalist in the whole country as a result and even I was shocked by it, opposition bad ka hadleeyso, walahi these kids would put a bullet in your head for Farmaajo, this stuff mar hore ba laga tagey in Xamar.

[AwRastaale]

As I expected.

No surprise really and looks like the fake euphoria energy is already over (marqannimo) and the reality is rolling in.

After the Mudulood, the HG who are deeply divided will be next to hold him hostage especially the natural rebels Ayr.

Here he can't use the HG-Marehan 'semi-autonomous' project because Ayr even reject Galmuduug, which collapsed btw.

[vinshom]

Its un acceptable, this will be the beginning of the end for Mr Farmaajo.

Iska fadhiiso sxb, there is a lot of background stuff had you known you wouldn't have typed this, those wishing for failure from the comforts of the West have no ounce of Somalinimo in them or any regard for those back-home that will bare the brunt.


If your pissed at some Darood President due to qabyaalad, you have no one but your pathetic leaders to blame for this, in fact these horrific leaders turned much of the younger HAG into the most fierce hardcore Somaliweyn nationalist in the whole country as a result and even I was shocked by it, opposition bad ka hadleeyso, walahi these kids would put a bullet in your head for Farmaajo, this stuff mar hore ba laga tagey in Xamar.

hehe I got you ugaaska, you will remember what I told you will come true, though time will tell and I dont hate on Farmaajo for qabiil reason, I just dont see him doing any of the promises he promised. I see him as a liar that is all. This dude promised the impossible and only idiots believed that. But I truly respect your opinion sxb.

[X.Playa]

Farmaajo is a snake oil sales man.

[fanaanYG]

Smooth don't shoot the messenger, he's lucky if he survive 18 months the fact that the same MPs who chosen him are talking about motion already. most expecting ministry positins are blocked arrimaha is biirsaday if motion takes place today he will be out