Siad Barre rushed into the 1977 war to add millions of his mothers clan into Somalia

[paperino]

Paperino:

Your question is simplistic.

You have not answer my simple question.

I also have proof that Somalia defeated Ethiopia, Russia & Cuba in late 70s war. If you're interested, you've to first post here your picture.

[gegiroor]

Paperino:

Your question is simplistic.

You have not answer my simple question.

I also have proof that Somalia defeated Ethiopia, Russia & Cuba in late 70s war. If you're interested, you've to first post here your picture.

True statement!

[luis1]

Paperino:

I also have proof that Somalia defeated Ethiopia, Russia & Cuba in late 70s war. If you're interested, you've to first post here your picture.

This is your decision not mine. If you want to show us the article or the book about Ogaden War, I will be glad to read it and remark it. We could exchange details about this conflict and perhapas change the opinion of many people.

[paperino]

This is your decision not mine. If you want to show us the article or the book about Ogaden War, I will be glad to read it and remark it. We could exchange details about this conflict and perhapas change the opinion of many people.

No deal.

[luis1]

Paperino:

No deal

I dont care if you accept my deal or not. The real fact is until you show us sources, nobody will believe you.


Why must we believe you if you have not shown us any sources or books that prove I am wrong?

[paperino]

I dont care if you accept my deal or not. The real fact is until you show us sources, nobody will believe you.


Why must we believe you if you have not shown us any sources or books that prove I am wrong?

You blew your chance. You'll never know the truth. It's your loss.

[luis1]

Luis1= 16 sources


Paperino= 0 sources

[gegiroor]

Luis,

We've been giving you sources since the day you joined SNET; however, you're not accepting because you had so much invested in the Derg regime.

We beated AIDSThiopia (aka Ethiopia) in 1977-1978 war, and Somali army was knocking the door of AIDS Abeba (aka Adds Abeba) when Soviet Union, Cuba, and the Warsaw pact intervened militarily and drove the Somalis out.

Secondly, it was backstabbing of former American President, an Evangelical Christian, Jimmy Carter who backstabbed us when he refused to deliver those arms to us.

So in essence, Somalia was faced by combination of Warsaw Pact, Cuba, and traitor Carter who backstabed us.



Well, I don't expect you to accept this overwhelming evidence. You're a joke Luis!

[luis1]

Soviet Union, Cuba, and the Warsaw pact intervened militarily and drove the Somalis out.

I agree with you.

[paperino]

Secondly, it was backstabbing of former American President, an Evangelical Christian, Jimmy Carter who backstabbed us when he refused to deliver those arms to us.

Not only that, Carter sent arms/weapons to Ethiopia via Israel. It was a rare instance of history where 2 rival superpowers ganged up against a country.

[luis1]

Most of the african countries were against Barre foray because African Union did not and still does not accept a violent change of borders.

[paperino]

Despite the regime change in Ethiopia, Israel continued to provide military assistance. Specifically within the complex regional framework, the United States tried to establish a policy of continuing arms supplies to Ethiopia, but in a manner that would not deteriorate its relationships with the moderate Arabs.

http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/ ... olicy.html

Begin had come the White House bearing a message from Ethiopia's Mengistu. Worried about the insurgencies in Eritrea and Ogaden, cut off from the US arms pipeline, and waiting for more supplies from Moscow, Mengistu needed military aid. Begin asked Carter to reverse his decision to cut off US aid to Ethiopia. He also asked for approval for Israel to send Mengistu the US fighter planes and transport assistance that the Ethiopians had requested.

Jimmy Carter in Africa: Race and the Cold War @ Google Books

[gegiroor]

Despite the regime change in Ethiopia, Israel continued to provide military assistance. Specifically within the complex regional framework, the United States tried to establish a policy of continuing arms supplies to Ethiopia, but in a manner that would not deteriorate its relationships with the moderate Arabs.

http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/ ... olicy.html

Begin had come the White House bearing a message from Ethiopia's Mengistu. Worried about the insurgencies in Eritrea and Ogaden, cut off from the US arms pipeline, and waiting for more supplies from Moscow, Mengistu needed military aid. Begin asked Carter to reverse his decision to cut off US aid to Ethiopia. He also asked for approval for Israel to send Mengistu the US fighter planes and transport assistance that the Ethiopians had requested.

Jimmy Carter in Africa: Race and the Cold War @ Google Books

Thanks bro Paperino for sharing this information. You learn something new everyday. It was indeed two superpowers ganging up against one country.

[luis1]

Thanks Paperino for sharing the book with us.

Jimmy Carter in Africa: Race and the Cold War

The book says many interesting things like these ones:


Page 388

"Siad admitted, drawing deeply on his cigarette. We can not fight against Soviet weaponry, tanks and aircraft".The US intelligence community concurred: The Ethiopians and Cubans.....(will achieve) a more rapid victory than previously seemed likely".

Page 410

"It was the rout of his troops on the battlefield,not Washington threats and promises, that had convinced Siad to wave the white flag"

[luis1]

Hi Paperino:

I want to know your opinion about my last words.