In Tartous [Alawite Heartland], Syria, Women Wear Black, Youth Are in Hiding, and Bitterness Grows

[gurey25]

I think Gurey and FAH are Sufis, who think every opposition group in Syria is backed by the west. They hardly see the treachery of Rafida Iran and basically oblivion to the alliance between Rafida and the West in their effort to subdue the Ahlul-Sunna forces in Shaam and Iraq.

The rest of the gang have no clue what they're talking about. Some of them are pork-eating Zionists who basically hate every Sunni Muslim group out there.

GrumpyGeeljire and GrandpaKhalif are familiar with is happening there. Lo'Doon is also good. There are other who I don't remember. You can ignore the rest.

I am not a sufi nor do i belong to a sufi tariqa.
I am flattered though because to be a sufi, it means that one has reached a high level of spiritual development.
But i understand from your point of view, anyone that accepts tassawuf a normal part of islam and does not follow your Salafist/Wahabi ideology they must be one of those bid'ah practicing dancing and grave worshiping sufis.

The truth is that i am a traditional muslim, i believe in what our forefathers believed, my aqeeda is the same as it was 1000 years ago while your theology is brand new.

Infact i do not consider you to be ahlu sunna wa jamaaca as well, to me your are the same as a 12ver shiica and an ismaciili.

As for the war in Syria and Iraq, i will be against the agenda of isreal and the colonialists all the time.
This whole war is for their benefit, and theirs alone.
I dont think that all insurgent groups are supported by the west, no they are just tolerated because they are working and fighting towards the same goals, knowingly or unkowingly.
Do you seriously thing the hundreds of million worth of arms are appearing magically in their hands?
Do you seriously believe that the west is unaware of Saudis and other gulf states providing funds?
Everything they do is sanctioned,

You can argue why does NATO bomb some groups, and why are they supposedly at war with ISIS in Iraq?
This is just shepherding the herd and a little culling here and there to maintain control.

Those groups that focus 100% on fighting the Syrian Arab Army are left alone and even attempts are made to protect them from Syrian airforce and the Russians.

ISIS in Iraq has outlived its usefullness and they will be gone, i said a few months ago that the US will dismantle ISIS and create new "sunni" groups that will contest raqqa and the eastern border of Syria to create a US controlled "sunni" encalve.
They are doing this right now.
The Shia millitias in Iraq are being used by the US and will be discarded when they are no longer useful.
There have been "accidental" US airstrikes on Shia millitias in Iraq in the past, i am sure their frequency will increase in the future.

Meanwhile IRan will continue to train large groups of shia millitias to take advantage of any future US missteps.

As for Evil treacherous Shia IRan, Whats so evil about it? its simply serving its own interests.
Whats wrong with that?
At least Iran and the Shia are aware of and are capable of taking care of their strategic interests,
while Sunnis have no compass, and are fighting and dying for the west.

Ask yourself this.
If Assad falls and Damascus and allepo are overun, will the several dozen groups create a government?
Or will they fight each other.
What will they do when the Tap is cut off from the gulf?

You will have decades long civil war like somalia, until the rebel groups run out of weapons and manpower, then you will have an attempt at NATO/UN peacekeeping force.
In the meantime ISreal will annex the houran and the rest of Golan with its Assimilatable Druze population, excellent farmland and potentially huge gas reserves.

This is what Jabhat al Nusra and all the others are fighting and dying for.

The alternative is a peacefull resolution, which the US is blocking.

[gegiroor]

There should be a separate Sunni Muslim state in Iraq. Living under the Rafida genocide will be living under endless genocide and abuse.

[paperino]

There should be a separate Sunni Muslim state in Iraq. Living under the Rafida genocide will be living under endless genocide and abuse.

I don't see why not. Even the Kurds have their own separate state.

[FAH1223]

I think Gurey and FAH are Sufis, who think every opposition group in Syria is backed by the west. They hardly see the treachery of Rafida Iran and basically oblivion to the alliance between Rafida and the West in their effort to subdue the Ahlul-Sunna forces in Shaam and Iraq.

The rest of the gang have no clue what they're talking about. Some of them are pork-eating Zionists who basically hate every Sunni Muslim group out there.

GrumpyGeeljire and GrandpaKhalif are familiar with is happening there. Lo'Doon is also good. There are other who I don't remember. You can ignore the rest.

I am not a sufi nor do i belong to a sufi tariqa.
I am flattered though because to be a sufi, it means that one has reached a high level of spiritual development.
But i understand from your point of view, anyone that accepts tassawuf a normal part of islam and does not follow your Salafist/Wahabi ideology they must be one of those bid'ah practicing dancing and grave worshiping sufis.

The truth is that i am a traditional muslim, i believe in what our forefathers believed, my aqeeda is the same as it was 1000 years ago while your theology is brand new.

Infact i do not consider you to be ahlu sunna wa jamaaca as well, to me your are the same as a 12ver shiica and an ismaciili.

As for the war in Syria and Iraq, i will be against the agenda of isreal and the colonialists all the time.
This whole war is for their benefit, and theirs alone.
I dont think that all insurgent groups are supported by the west, no they are just tolerated because they are working and fighting towards the same goals, knowingly or unkowingly.
Do you seriously thing the hundreds of million worth of arms are appearing magically in their hands?
Do you seriously believe that the west is unaware of Saudis and other gulf states providing funds?
Everything they do is sanctioned,

You can argue why does NATO bomb some groups, and why are they supposedly at war with ISIS in Iraq?
This is just shepherding the herd and a little culling here and there to maintain control.

Those groups that focus 100% on fighting the Syrian Arab Army are left alone and even attempts are made to protect them from Syrian airforce and the Russians.

ISIS in Iraq has outlived its usefullness and they will be gone, i said a few months ago that the US will dismantle ISIS and create new "sunni" groups that will contest raqqa and the eastern border of Syria to create a US controlled "sunni" encalve.
They are doing this right now.
The Shia millitias in Iraq are being used by the US and will be discarded when they are no longer useful.
There have been "accidental" US airstrikes on Shia millitias in Iraq in the past, i am sure their frequency will increase in the future.

Meanwhile IRan will continue to train large groups of shia millitias to take advantage of any future US missteps.

As for Evil treacherous Shia IRan, Whats so evil about it? its simply serving its own interests.
Whats wrong with that?
At least Iran and the Shia are aware of and are capable of taking care of their strategic interests,
while Sunnis have no compass, and are fighting and dying for the west.

Ask yourself this.
If Assad falls and Damascus and allepo are overun, will the several dozen groups create a government?
Or will they fight each other.
What will they do when the Tap is cut off from the gulf?

You will have decades long civil war like somalia, until the rebel groups run out of weapons and manpower, then you will have an attempt at NATO/UN peacekeeping force.
In the meantime ISreal will annex the houran and the rest of Golan with its Assimilatable Druze population, excellent farmland and potentially huge gas reserves.

This is what Jabhat al Nusra and all the others are fighting and dying for.

The alternative is a peacefull resolution, which the US is blocking.

And none of the usual suspects replied to this post.

[gurey25]

They replied but did not answer the question.
What happens after assad?

[gegiroor]

Well, Assad supporters should be reminded that Sunni opposition victory over Assad has taken place in 2015 when his forces were fully defeated in Idlib province and Damascus was about to be overrun. That was when Russia militarily intervened and saved his regime.

Similarly, Sunni Muslim victory over Rafida in Iraq has happened in 2014 when the entire Western and Central Iraq was overran, and ISIS was knocking at the front gates of Baghdad. That is when US government mobilized over 60-member state coalition in order to safe the Shia regime. While I don't support ISIS and don't agree with their extremism and attacks on the West, but the reality is without US military involvement, Baghdad would've been overrun by now.

Mosul after 100,000 troops invaded, backed by world's mightiest air force against 4000 fighters and the fighting is still on for 8 months. This is the true nature of Rafida and Nusayris. Without Western and Russian air assets, they're nothing.

The struggle in Shaam has moved way beyond the Nusayris, Rafida and their Sufi admirers. It is between few Muslim groups vs the rest of the world.

And we're clearly witnessing a fulfillment of an Islamic prophesy.

The Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) said, “There will come a time when you will have a treaty with the Roman Empire. After you fight the common enemy and defeat them, that treaty will be broken. Then they will march against you.” After you were together and fighting a common enemy, it will so happen that they will march against you. “Under 80 different flags.” Maybe 80 countries or 80 nations, Allāhu ‘ālam. “80 flags will be gathered against you, and at that time, the camp of the Muslims will be in a land [and he mentioned a place in Syria] and what is around it.” Once again, the people of Shām and the land of Shām are being mentioned where the base of the Muslims is going to be. When those armies attack, there will be the camp of the Muslims, and if we are alive at that time, the Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) told us to be with the people of Shām.

Today, when you add the number of countries waging war in Shaam, they're either 80 or close to 80. We'll see how this conflict turns out!

[gurey25]

Well, Assad supporters should be reminded that Sunni opposition victory over Assad has taken place in 2015 when his forces were fully defeated in Idlib province and Damascus was about to be overrun. That was when Russia militarily intervened and saved his regime.

Similarly, Sunni Muslim victory over Rafida in Iraq has happened in 2014 when the entire Western and Central Iraq was overran, and ISIS was knocking at the front gates of Baghdad. That is when US government mobilized over 60-member state coalition in order to safe the Shia regime. While I don't support ISIS and don't agree with their extremism and attacks on the West, but the reality is without US military involvement, Baghdad would've been overrun by now.

Mosul after 100,000 troops invaded, backed by world's mightiest air force against 4000 fighters and the fighting is still on for 8 months. This is the true nature of Rafida and Nusayris. Without Western and Russian air assets, they're nothing.

The struggle in Shaam has moved way beyond the Nusayris, Rafida and their Sufi admirers. It is between few Muslim groups vs the rest of the world.

And we're clearly witnessing a fulfillment of an Islamic prophesy.

The Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) said, “There will come a time when you will have a treaty with the Roman Empire. After you fight the common enemy and defeat them, that treaty will be broken. Then they will march against you.” After you were together and fighting a common enemy, it will so happen that they will march against you. “Under 80 different flags.” Maybe 80 countries or 80 nations, Allāhu ‘ālam. “80 flags will be gathered against you, and at that time, the camp of the Muslims will be in a land [and he mentioned a place in Syria] and what is around it.” Once again, the people of Shām and the land of Shām are being mentioned where the base of the Muslims is going to be. When those armies attack, there will be the camp of the Muslims, and if we are alive at that time, the Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) told us to be with the people of Shām.

Today, when you add the number of countries waging war in Shaam, they're either 80 or close to 80. We'll see how this conflict turns out!

See again you did not answer the question. What next?
What if Assad fell in 2015, we all know he was 2 weeks away from falling. Think, look at your surroundings.

Mosul fell to ISIS because the government aligned forces where exactly like Somalia's "army" and the Afghan Army zero morale
and have no interest in fighting , just getting a paycheck.
Infact what made the government forces who were mainly sunni in mosul to disintegrateand either run like hell towards baghdad, or actually switch sides and join isis was the result of a major Psyops campaign.
There was no fighting they simply ran like hell. scared shitless from a force that was 20 times smaller than them,

but Baghdad contains some serious shitte miliitias and it would not have been overwhelmed , it would have been Moqadishu in 1992. Abgal verus habrgidir just 5 times larger.

You have been programmed , you are just an attack dog that was pointed at a target and cannot see the leash on him and who holds the leash.

When will you wake up and ask yourself , What next?

[gurey25]

Mosul after 100,000 troops invaded, backed by world's mightiest air force against 4000 fighters and the fighting is still on for 8 months. This is the true nature of Rafida and Nusayris. Without Western and Russian air assets, they're nothing.

The struggle in Shaam has moved way beyond the Nusayris, Rafida and their Sufi admirers. It is between few Muslim groups vs the rest of the world.

First of all the US is not fighting ISIS, it is managing it like a wild herd, most of the airstrikes are for show.
The primary objective of the US in Mosul is to create its own puppet Sunni force to contest both western Iraq and Eastern Syria to create their own puppet sunni state.
To do this they are doing a little creative destruction, the useful and enterprising former ISIS outfits are directly recruited into new organizations. The recalcitrant or die hards that dont obey orders are either bombed or the protection for them is removed and are allowed to be engaged by Shiite millitias.
The main use of the US airforce in Iraq is to prevent further iranian troop movements, limiting shiite millitia logistics ,
and making "accidental friendly fire airstrikes " happen to the Shiites and Iranains when they get too close to US objectives.

The added benefit of the war against ISIS is that an excuse for US troops to be present in IRaq exists now,
When they were shamefully made to get out by the previous iraqi government.

This is not a messianic end of the world battle, with 4000 holy warrior against 100,000 and a coalition of 80 countries.
This is simply your regular colonial invasion and divide et impera..

nothing new here..


but the US is going to lose spectacularly, their arrogance blinds them.

[gegiroor]

First of all the US is not fighting ISIS, it is managing it like a wild herd, most of the airstrikes are for show.

You can't be serious with that claim. Without the US-led coalition's air force and the special forces working with Iraqi Shia forces, the Baghdad government would be nothing.

What is next in Syria? That is irrelevant at this point, but there would have been transitional government, incorporated in all opposition factions minus IS. Event JFS (now HTS) signed up to that idea with a condition that the Syrian people would be asked in a nationwide referendum if they want a Islamic government. Other opposition factions wanted a democratic government. However, after the military victory by Jaish Al-Fateh in 2015 in Idlib province, both Russia and the West has decided to stop the Sunni opposition from militarily winning.

But I can't take seriously with anyone who makes the claim that the US air force is dropping bombs for a show. Look at Sunni cities in Iraq and Syria. They've been turned into rubble by the Western led air force. Iran, Rafida militia, and Nusrayris are being protected by Russia and Western-led coalition. Every objective observer sees it. All of the air assets are in Syria and Iraq to support the Assad, Rafida militia, and PKK (YPG), and SDF.

The Assad militia backed by Russia couldn't break the siege on Deir Ezzor, and Russia has to airlift food, medicine and arms to their forces in that city. After US formed SDF and armed them, it looks like they'll have the siege lifted now, but after 5 years, Rafida militia, Nusayris, backed by Russian air force could not lifted that siege. Another point to show that even with Russia's help, the Rafida and Nusayris were limited.

The main use of the US airforce in Iraq is to prevent further iranian troop movements, limiting shiite millitia logistics ,
and making "accidental friendly fire airstrikes " happen to the Shiites and Iranains when they get too close to US objectives.

Unbelievable claim. It is the air force of the US-led coalition that is providing air cover to the PMU militia and wants them to reach the Syrian border. When Obama launched the Mosul operation, the PMU was mobilized to augment Iraqi Shia Forces (ISF) and their job was to cover all outlaying areas. The involvement of the PMU has freed over 100,000 Iraqi forces to focus on Mosul only. And it is this PMU militia that is now unleashed on the Syrian and iraqi border. So on the Iraqi side, it is the US military muscle that is providing air cover. The only place the US is limiting the Rafida advance is the Al-Tanaf area due to the presence of some of the proxy militia that US claims to be protecting. Again, the only thing the US has done was to ensure they don't get closer to their forces and some proxy groups that they support. One should understand the Assad and Rafida advance only happened because of the last meeting between Russia, Iran, and Turkey that demanded the Syrian opposition to allow Assad and his forces to join the war against ISIS. Turkey representing the West has forced the Syrian opposition factions to accept the deal. And it is due to this deal that Rafida and Nusayri factions are advancing from Southern part of Syria, the area known as badiya.

I'll end it that the Rafida and Nusayris have themselves to thank the over 70 nations US-led coalition and Russia which are protecting them. Without them, Damascus and Baghdad would've been overran by now. I challenge anyone to find 1 battle, I say 1 battle that the Sunni groups - such as HTS, Ahrar-Al Shaam, Jaish Al-Islam, FSA factions, and IS - had an air cover. Find me 1 battle. I know the answer and that there is none. On the other hand, every fight that the Rafida and Nusayri militias are involved, they have either Russia or Western-led coalition air force protecting them.

Fyi, the so-called Sunni force, that is reported to be planned after the Mosul operation is concluded, is a Saudi-led initiative and not a US. When the Saudi air force was joining the anti-ISIS campaign, that is when they promised to the Sunni tribes that they'll help form this force in order to protect the Sunni tribes in Iraq after ISIS was about to be defeated. In reality, the Saudi launched this initiative in order to get the Sunni tribes rising up against the Islamic State and to make sure they don't rally up to their cause due to the known Shia abuses against Sunnis that was expected.

But I still have to laugh at people claiming the US-led coalition that is obliterating Mosul, Raqqa, and other towns in Iraq and Syria are there for a show. Unbelievable! I am done.

[gegiroor]

A fulfillment of an Islamic prophesy is witnessed in bilad al-Shaam.

The Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) said, “There will come a time when you will have a treaty with the Roman Empire. After you fight the common enemy and defeat them, that treaty will be broken. Then they will march against you.” After you were together and fighting a common enemy, it will so happen that they will march against you. “Under 80 different flags.” Maybe 80 countries or 80 nations, Allāhu ‘ālam. “80 flags will be gathered against you, and at that time, the camp of the Muslims will be in a land [and he mentioned a place in Syria] and what is around it.” Once again, the people of Shām and the land of Shām are being mentioned where the base of the Muslims is going to be. When those armies attack, there will be the camp of the Muslims, and if we are alive at that time, the Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) told us to be with the people of Shām.

When it is settled and done, Sunni Muslims will have the last laugh!



"And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners." Holy Quran verse 8:30

[gegiroor]

Most Assad supporters reminded me this Shia head of the Badr force. He is threatening the Americans by stating "they will not allow Americans to control the Iraqi-Syrian border" when behind him are American humvees, and if his militia gets into fight with IS, he'll call in American air force to help him and his forces out.

[grandpakhalif]

Wow gerigoor that picture is more valuable than a thousand words

Don't bother arguing with gurey he believes Assad is a saint fighting Western tyranny and protecting the ummah. The butcher shall face judgement in the hereafter for the egregious crimes he has committed against Sunnis

[paperino]

Wow gerigoor that picture is more valuable than a thousand words

Don't bother arguing with gurey he believes Assad is a saint fighting Western tyranny and protecting the ummah. The butcher shall face judgement in the hereafter for the egregious crimes he has committed against Sunnis

What excuses did gurey and Fah make for the 1982 Hama massacre* by Assad Sr.?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

[gegiroor]

Wow gerigoor that picture is more valuable than a thousand words

Don't bother arguing with gurey he believes Assad is a saint fighting Western tyranny and protecting the ummah. The butcher shall face judgement in the hereafter for the egregious crimes he has committed against Sunnis

Grandpa, insha'Allah Assad and his backers will face justice very soon.