Moral without religion and Religions without moral

[Twist]

I will pray for u twist. Its dangerous to be athiest and being fat. Remember hitchens?

[Namar]

I'd say culture due to the vast differences in values. There is simply no objective morality, only necessary requirements for law and order.

[BestPlaya]

Bestplaya

U n i both know u r also saar. N also xplaya

Labadaba ma ihi .Waan ka xumahay inaad Kuwaa igu khalado.
Horta adu ma islaam ayd tahay mise Kuffaar cadeysatay sida SAAR????

[Basra-]

Best Playa@Lol

u r so adorable when u r caught red handed or busted lol

[BestPlaya]

Best Playa@Lol

u r so adorable when u r caught red handed or busted lol

Wallahi caadi beyy ii ahaan lahayd hadaad ii maleyso dad quman oo islaam ah .Mcnto l fahan oo ogoow in aan marna Raali ka ahayn inaad igu khalado laba shaqsi OO IIDOORNIMO IYO GAALNIMO ISKU DARSADAY. .

[DaacasBiyo]

Basra, the Arabs before Islam were known to bury their own daughters alive. The Somalis before Islam were NOT known to bury their own daughters alive. Where do you think the morality that taught Somalis not to kill their own daughters came from?

[Basra-]

Basra, the Arabs before Islam were known to bury their own daughters alive. The Somalis before Islam were NOT known to bury their own daughters alive. Where do you think the morality that taught Somalis not to kill their own daughters came from?

DaacasBiyo

Somalis did not "exist" at the times of the pre Islam era where the arabs used to burry their own daughters. Don't u get it? Somalis exist because of the birth of Islam. Arabs going to east African and married African women as slaves while spreading Islam. Somalis are a result!

[Saar]

The most immoral person you will meet will most likely be a religious person driven by social determinism which they often confuse for moral choice. Ask yourself this,what drives your actions? Are they driven by a religious, social, historical, economic process? Or your own free will? When a muslim on snet attacks and calls me every name under the sun, is their action socially determined or did they choose to do this action all on their own ? What are the forces that are driving your moral choices?

Most religious people on snet have been conditioned and subdued mentally and emotionally early on by their parents and by society that they never develop the ability to use their own mind. These people are encouraged to put their trust in an entity outside of them and never acknowledge their true will nor do they let their own intuition guide them. As a non believer, i trust myself first and foremost which is why i believe in self rule and governance. When you don't have to be told what to do by "god" and follow your own moral compass you behave better because you dont want to go against your nature and disappoint yourself. You trust yourself to do right. Compare this to a religious person like basra who has relinquished all responsibility from herself and placed it in a "higher authority" how do you trust this this person to do right? The only reason why she even attempts to do right is out of fear of admonishment from her "god". This person doesnt even trust her own true will to make a moral choice all on her own. This is why religious people tend to be a shitty human beings.

Bravo! Well said, mate! You don't have to be religious to have morals. I personally know countless "religious" Somalis who do all kinds of immoral, unethical deeds all the time, and still have the audacity to believe they have higher morals than us, "infidels". If one needs religion to know the difference between right and wrong, then he/she is xoolo.

Somalis are the most programmed and the sad part is most dont even know how to read the quran in its original language. It doesnt get anymore xoolo then that.

[Saar]

Basra, the Arabs before Islam were known to bury their own daughters alive. The Somalis before Islam were NOT known to bury their own daughters alive. Where do you think the morality that taught Somalis not to kill their own daughters came from?

DaacasBiyo

Somalis did not "exist" at the times of the pre Islam era where the arabs used to burry their own daughters. Don't u get it? Somalis exist because of the birth of Islam. Arabs going to east African and married African women as slaves while spreading Islam. Somalis are a result!

Please for the millionth time do not reproduce and bring more of you in this world




Somalis are alot older than arabs.

You're stupidity is epic basra.

[Saar]

Saar would you mind to tell ME your religion. I'm just curious.Otherwise good debators do always avoid baseless ,vague and generalized crictism when they're engaging in debate.Better you do trolling in qabiil and politics (which is not good either) than attacking lslam with your evil and profane rants.


Ps Morality is known as AKHLAAQ in Arabic.lt refers to good manners.For more info, let the cheikhs step in..........

Not one of you in this forum has good manner so spear me with your bs waarya.


This is what arab god worship does to a person:

Somalis did not "exist" at the times of the pre Islam era where the arabs used to burry their own daughters. Don't u get it? Somalis exist because of the birth of Islam. Arabs going to east African and married African women as slaves while spreading Islam. Somalis are a result!

[BestPlaya]

Saar would you mind to tell ME your religion. I'm just curious.Otherwise good debators do always avoid baseless ,vague and generalized crictism when they're engaging in debate.Better you do trolling in qabiil and politics (which is not good either) than attacking lslam with your evil and profane rants.


Ps Morality is known as AKHLAAQ in Arabic.lt refers to good manners.For more info, let the cheikhs step in..........

Not one of you in this forum has good manner so spear me with your bs waarya.


This is what arab god worship does to a person:

Somalis did not "exist" at the times of the pre Islam era where the arabs used to burry their own daughters. Don't u get it? Somalis exist because of the birth of Islam. Arabs going to east African and married African women as slaves while spreading Islam. Somalis are a result!

Saar horta nabad ma jirtaa.

Iidoor is your tribe(they're noble people you should be proud of them. But for me they will always remain a rival clan!).Gaalnimo(being non-muslim) is your choice so the name GAAL CADDEYSATAY should not haunt you!.Sidan cml dood cilmiyeeysan LA imo fooramka.

Back to the topic:- Morality encompasses all sorts of virtues(good deeds ) and vices (bad deeds).But l concede, no one is perfect and it will not be a big surprise if it happens that SAAR (gaal caddeysatay) has got more akhlaaq than BARSA (a muslimah who has some obnoxious trollish tendacies).

May Allah revert you to your noble roots-- lslam.ameen

[Saar]

Saar would you mind to tell ME your religion. I'm just curious.Otherwise good debators do always avoid baseless ,vague and generalized crictism when they're engaging in debate.Better you do trolling in qabiil and politics (which is not good either) than attacking lslam with your evil and profane rants.


Ps Morality is known as AKHLAAQ in Arabic.lt refers to good manners.For more info, let the cheikhs step in..........

Not one of you in this forum has good manner so spear me with your bs waarya.


This is what arab god worship does to a person:

Somalis did not "exist" at the times of the pre Islam era where the arabs used to burry their own daughters. Don't u get it? Somalis exist because of the birth of Islam. Arabs going to east African and married African women as slaves while spreading Islam. Somalis are a result!

Saar horta nabad ma jirtaa.

Iidoor is your tribe(they're noble people you should be proud of them. But for me they will always remain a rival clan!).Gaalnimo(being non-muslim) is your choice so the name GAAL CADDEYSATAY should not haunt you!.Sidan cml dood cilmiyeeysan LA imo fooramka.

Back to the topic:- Morality encompasses all sorts of virtues(good deeds ) and vices (bad deeds).But l concede, no one is perfect and it will not be a big surprise if it happens that SAAR (gaal caddeysatay) has got more akhlaaq than BARSA (a muslimah who has some obnoxious trollish tendacies).

May Allah revert you to your noble roots-- lslam.ameen

You seem nice but here's the tea, islam is not my roots nor is it yours dont ever say that to me again. To paraphrase Malcolm X pre- sunni Islam, our ancestor 'were hoodwinked, had , bamboozled'. We are taught to believe an arab lie is the key to salvation and heaven. You must be confused and heavily brainwashed if you think calling me Gaal is an insult. That's a badge of honor.

Morality doesnt encompass vices lol to be moral is to be good. You dont seem to know what morality is ...no wonder, you claim to be a muslim after all .

[Saar]

I'd say culture due to the vast differences in values. There is simply no objective morality, only necessary requirements for law and order.

basically

[BestPlaya]

Not one of you in this forum has good manner so spear me with your bs waarya.


This is what arab god worship does to a person:

Saar horta nabad ma jirtaa.

Iidoor is your tribe(they're noble people you should be proud of them. But for me they will always remain a rival clan!).Gaalnimo(being non-muslim) is your choice so the name GAAL CADDEYSATAY should not haunt you!.Sidan cml dood cilmiyeeysan LA imo fooramka.

Back to the topic:- Morality encompasses all sorts of virtues(good deeds ) and vices (bad deeds).But l concede, no one is perfect and it will not be a big surprise if it happens that SAAR (gaal caddeysatay) has got more akhlaaq than BARSA (a muslimah who has some obnoxious trollish tendacies).

May Allah revert you to your noble roots-- lslam.ameen

You seem nice but here's the tea, islam is not my roots nor is it yours dont ever say that to me again. To paraphrase Malcolm X pre- sunni Islam, our ancestor 'were hoodwinked, had , bamboozled'. We are taught to believe an arab lie is the key to salvation and heaven. You must be confused and heavily brainwashed if you think calling me Gaal is an insult. That's a badge of honor.

Morality doesnt encompass vices lol to be moral is to be good. You dont seem to know what morality is ...no wonder, you claim to be a muslim after all .

Yah my definition of the term may seem quite ambiguous but for your info ,the word morality doesn't ONLY mean 'goodness' or 'rightness'.Go and consult a dictionary GAALYAHAY CADDEYSATAY

[Basra-]

"mo·ral·i·ty
məˈralədē/
noun
noun: morality
principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
synonyms:
ethics, rights and wrongs, ethicality More"


Best Playa and Saar,

I thought I should save you guys unnecessary debate on the definition of "morality' and post. Best as u can see- Saar--was right. There is NO ambiguity on the definition of Morality here. The word does not mean the "choice" of right and wrong or good and bad. Just because these adjectives are included in the definition doesn't mean it is the 'definition'! (did u pass your grade school English comprehension class?)

Here Morality --means ---"The Distinction" of right and wrong ---good or bad. Not a choice of either one. The ability for a person to decipher, or discern the difference of right or wrong. Good or bad. The moral campus of a person that is called principles in short. ie You are either moral or immoral! (did I just help u with your debate Playa? lol)



Best Playa


Obnoxious troll tendencies?? loooooooooooooooooooooool


I resent that! I think my tendencies are to be a participate in forum discussion, at least in Somalinet. Trolling is cute but overrated (Saar is the obnoxious troll for she insults God-istaqfurulaaah) I don't bull shi!t . Sorry if u wanted me to be a lap dog lol. And sorry for not answering your private "Messages".



PS Stop it.




Saar.@lol


Well, too bad sweety. I have 5 kids. My reproductions have even produced more grand children productions!



Saar---I think--Best Playa is correct is saying you are "GAALYAHAY CADDEYSATAY ' LOOOOOL


Your gaaloniimo is a lost cause. And how dare u say your roots are not Islamic. Honey---u were born a Muslim. Unless u r a disgusting garaac baantu from a a somali mother or father mixed with Jamaican or African American God forbid then I pity your case.


There is NO historical proof Somalis existed before the arrivals of arabs in east Africa post 7th century! I have no doubt the Arab migration produced a mixed race phenomenon that resulted in today Somalis. My claim is backed by the existence of Ethiopian slaves in Islam hadith. One other theory could be our ancestors could trace back to Oromo Ethiopians marrying the arab migrants and we as Somalis are a result!