Alphamale1 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:52 am
HashIII wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:57 pm
They came in the mid 90s because there is a small jetty class seaport in Merca. The HG claim on the city comes from an Arabic text that says the Merca was a 'hadiye' city. They claim it is a corruption of the word Hawiye. That is all they have loool. That being said though, we do know that wacdaan Hawiye, and abgaal live in the lower shebelle.
If they truly lived in Merca historically they would have partook in the biimaal uprising against the Italian. Or they would have at least been mentioned during the conflict. But of course, no mention of them.
Other times they use alshabab as a pretext for their aggression, saying that they are a part of the SNA and are fighting alshabab. Which is quite funny since their leader, warlord indhacadde has a terrorist background himself, having been part of two different terrorist groups. One of which was called 'hizbul islam'
There are also documents on wiki leaks recounting how 'general' indhacadde and his militia were the cause of alshabab entering Merca. It also recounts how they ran away like little girls and put up like no resistance.
It is obvious that these clan militias are the principle cause of the trouble in the Lower shebelle, and that they have no right to be there, whether they claim to be for the government, or to be protecting their 'clans wealth, honour, and lives'. They need to go.
Everything you said is the truth.
You have a raised very important question. If Hawiya live in Lower Shabele, why did there no mention of them being part of 20 year Biimaal revolt against Italians?
In June 1908 Governor Carletti wrote to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs:
We cannot afford to delay our move inland, since it will be difficult to occupy the river when the rebels who left over two months ago return with guns from the Mullah Muhammad
To give added weight to his pleas for decisive government action, Carletti attached a letter from the sultan of Geledi written earlier that month:
The Biimaal have abandoned their territory and the major part—around 4000—are in voyage to the Mullah. Only the old men, women, and children remain. Even among the Hintire only a few remain…. You must make war without any delay. Don’t remain inactive…. Your enemies won’t obey your orders and say, “We will obey only Shaykh Muhammad Abdullah….” Hintire, Biimaal, Wacdaan, Jambelul, Daud, and Mobilayn amount to more than 100,000 [ sic ]. If their messengers return with arms, they will all stand against us and the territory will be lost, since they desire only war
While the letter almost certainly exaggerates the number of Somalis who actually left to contact the mullah in the north, it does give an idea of the extent to which the resistance had become pan-tribal. A united resistance is precisely what the colonials feared.
Therefore, in August 1908, auxiliary soldiers under Italian command marched inland to the Shabeelle. They raised the flag at Bariirey; they fought with valiant Somalis for several hours outside of Mereerey; then their forces marched triumphantly into Afgooye. The colonial occupation of the interior had begun, prompted by the events of the “Year of the Dervishes.”
Source:
Page 250 of Lee Cassanelli’s The shaping of Somali society: reconstructing the history of a pastoral people, 1600-1900
This is the problem when a Gaadsan from Luuq or Kilinka 5aad talks about Hawiye matters. Wacdaan Cismaan of the Darandoole mudulood is Hawiye, Moobleen Cismaan of the Darandoole Mudulood is Hawiye, Daa'ud of the Wacbuudhan Abgaal Cismaan Darandoolle Mudulood is Hawiye. Jambeele is Hawiye as well.
waa cashar fiican
