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Beware Somalis in K5 from limited genocide

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Latest Update,

The Somali authorities in DDIS took the extra and responsible step to protect Oromo lives and business after one Hotel, Crown Plaza Hotel, owned by a Jarso Oromo businessman, one Abdisamed, was looted. The local administration moved quickly on the looters and safeguarded the hotel save what was already looted.

Also, elders and administrators in Jigjiga established a safe exit passageway for the Oromos who are leaving Somali territories. So far thousands of Oromos have been safely transferred to Chinacsani.

Unti recently, ChinacsanI was a historic Somali town and a commercial hub throughout the 1960s, 1970s and 1980, followimg previous successful agribusiness projects implemented through a multi-year financing by the World Bank. Somalis ceded Chinacsani to Oromia because of weak leadership at the time following a sham plebescit carried out in 2004.

Moreover, the President of DDIS reportedly refused to burry the victims until the Prime Minister or his désignée comes down to Jigjiga and witnesses the gore acts committed against Somalis.

Evidences are mounting that this latest rampage against civilian Somalis, most of them traders, took place with the tacit knowledge of authorities in Oromia. Several live Youtube tapes are showing Oromo police forces and professional local journalists on the standby.

Many questions abound: What is Addis thinking about all thèse? There are two theories:

1. Thé PM does not have enough sway on the army thus cannot take drastic measures to interven and stop what is shaping into a limited génocide.

2. The other theory, mainly believed by overwhelming Somalis, is that Addis is using this conflict to pit two brotherly sides. I believe this assertion is both naive and ahistorical. A) governments don't often sponsor self-defeating projects like this intentionally. B) Oromo crowds have done similar rampages in the 1960,1974, following land to the tillers slings of the Dergi, 1992 at the wake of EPRDF seizure of power.

It is plausible that what is happening is a combination of theory one plus a weakened center. The entire Ethnic federalism of Ethiopia is challenged by a juvenile Oromo pzenephobia with bad leadership.

Throughout the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, Oromo nationalism, while growing at its seams, lacked cohesive and purposesoriented leadership.

In the revolutionary era of the 1970s, Oromo elites always beat the drums for narrow nationalism while other groups embrassed multinational movements.

No one should fault Oromo peasants who are acting on their misplaced anger. The blame is with its leaders. Last Saturday, I had a discussion with a bunch of Amharas, Harris, 2 Somalis including me, an Arab-Wargi Ethiopian and a lone Oromo.

The lone Oromo basically upset all of us. But when he said that Oromos will soon teach to Somalis unforgetable lesson, my Diredhaba Somali friend told him to take a hike.

Little did I know, this rampage happened within the week he told us - yes his name was xxx Dadarawi the last part of him name denoting that he is from Dadar area. I ask now: did Dadarawi knew of a complex and conciet plan of small scale genocide in the vicinity of the city that hyphanates his name?

We may never know the answer. But even if we did, it would not help the victims families.

Gar iyo magla'aan!



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Zoomalia4Cvcks wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:53 pm No one cares
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i LOVE HOW you portray somalis as innocent people whom the oromos are targeting.
meanwhile, you forget, or leave out, how liyyu forces were raiding/raping/killing oromos in the east since at least the beginning of the year.
you forget, how it was the liyyu, and IS THE LIYYU, who have been raping and killing the somalis of the somali state, for years, and years, and you were quiet.
and then we have one oromo incident, which is UNPROVEN BY THE WAY, and you go blaming all oromos,
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Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:06 pm i LOVE HOW you portray somalis as innocent people whom the oromos are targeting.
meanwhile, you forget, or leave out, how liyyu forces were raiding/raping/killing oromos in the east since at least the beginning of the year.
you forget, how it was the liyyu, and IS THE LIYYU, who have been raping and killing the somalis of the somali state, for years, and years, and you were quiet.
and then we have one oromo incident, which is UNPROVEN BY THE WAY, and you go blaming all oromos,

Listen one word stop your Invasion to our land and country, stop expanding to Somali region, we don't want you in our country or region. Simple leave us. Go expand to Sudan or Uganda/Kenya. Leave us alone and don't claim our land and country.
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who is more likely to claim lands that's not theirs:

settled farmers, like oromos, who know exactly where their land begins and ends,

or

pastoralists/nomads who think where-ever their livestock grazes, is their lands, like the somalis?
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Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:48 pm who is more likely to claim lands that's not theirs:

settled farmers, like oromos, who know exactly where their land begins and ends,

or

pastoralists/nomads who think where-ever their livestock grazes, is their lands, like the somalis?
you arrogant defends of these murders will not get you any friends in this forum.be a man of deen if that what you are condem these crimes and killing of mass civilians of somalis by the oromo state government. in islam you do not kill your guests thast shamefull . and a true sign of cowardness.
, the Somali democratic republic people and government always supported the freedom of oromos and you stap us in the back thats not right after more than 500 years of living together . the habesha elite hate us somlalis,oromos,afar,hararis equally lets fight these oppressors togther all ethopian muslim unity . ethopia is splitting, tigre is going down, time for oromos to start thinking and knowing who there real enemies are.
also you keep repeating that oromos are only famers, tht not true many oromos are nomads aswell . and millions somaalis millions famers fishermen localtraders etc. also why would we any of your land we have plenty of land.
The people you state government killed was small scale trader women and men who were buying agriculture products ( vegetables seeds , fruits ) for their hometown. . also abdi illey do not represent the 6million somaliethiopians he is a tplf pupet , with no education and handpicked by melez zenawi, mesfin and others to inflact and killed his own people.

nabaaad.
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Stupid when did I defend any murderer
I told u as I told others, if I see proof, I myself as an oromo will side with you, justice comes before nationalism or ethnic loyalty because oromia or Somalia are our temporary homes, the final home is that of the hereafter.
I'm still waiting for anyone to prove Oromos did it.
Where's the impartial investigation
Where's the proof
Most somalis are not farmers they look down on it, and yes some Oromo like the karayu are pastoralist but the vast majority are farmers.
The problem is Somalis are accusing us of something they themselves brag about which is land expansion.
The Oromo were conquerors too but history shows that the somali expanded more violently than anyone...
We even lived In the ogaden a little over 500 years ago and then we're pushed out by the darood after a smallpox epidemic almost wiped out the Oromo clans living there yet we never claim the entire ogaden, we take a loss like men, and take our victories like men....
It's a fact that nomads typically have no idea what border demarcation is let alone where their land begins and ends....
There's still a LOT of Somalis living peacefully among us and no Oromo even dreams of harming them, just think of this... If tigray civilians are safe In oromia why wouldnt Somalis.. Come on now use common sense not emotions...
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Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:17 pm Stupid when did I defend any murderer
I told u as I told others, if I see proof, I myself as an oromo will side with you, justice comes before nationalism or ethnic loyalty because oromia or Somalia are our temporary homes, the final home is that of the hereafter.
I'm still waiting for anyone to prove Oromos did it.
Where's the impartial investigation
Where's the proof
Most somalis are not farmers they look down on it, and yes some Oromo like the karayu are pastoralist but the vast majority are farmers.
The problem is Somalis are accusing us of something they themselves brag about which is land expansion.
The Oromo were conquerors too but history shows that the somali expanded more violently than anyone...
We even lived In the ogaden a little over 500 years ago and then we're pushed out by the darood after a smallpox epidemic almost wiped out the Oromo clans living there yet we never claim the entire ogaden, we take a loss like men, and take our victories like men....
It's a fact that nomads typically have no idea what border demarcation is let alone where their land begins and ends....
There's still a LOT of Somalis living peacefully among us and no Oromo even dreams of harming them, just think of this... If tigray civilians are safe In oromia why wouldnt Somalis.. Come on now use common sense not emotions...


Stop lying about us, Somalis looks down on "farming " how did we manage to live for past 3000 years without farming. Did you know that Ajuran sultanate was first hydraulic empire that was based on agriculture!!!. My relatives had a farms for past 50 years.
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