Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
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Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
So the book of Raage Ugaas ( 1835-1884) has finally came out. I was aware of the efforts to collect his poetry by various Daarood revisionist and propagandist to crown him the master of the Somali poetry. Of course such claim is baseless .
From the 1960s Xirsi Magan and Shireh Jaamac both Daarood literature supremacist attempted to promote Raage Ugaas as top poet. They attributed to him many pioneering claim:
1- that he supposedly invented the Somali poetic meter.
2- that his poems are the most ancient of Somali poetry.
3- that he invented the poetic traditional preface " hoyalaayeey hoyaaleey hooby ".
4- that he divided the Somali literature into tix and Tiraab.
During the reign of Afweyne, Idaajaa basically had an absolute monopoly on all Somali media both radio and print media. Throughout 1970s and 1980s he promoted Raage Ugaas in his radio Mogadisho and in Xidigta October and Ogaal weekly. They also incorporated Raage Ugaas poetry into school curriculum to familiarize him with all Somalis.
In case that was not enough Afweyne personally interfered and built and named an school in the capital after Raage Ugaas ( an elementary school) to imprint the name of Raage Ugaas on first graders.
It wasn't long after that this revisionism bare fruit. Most Somali song composers and play writers began to quote Raage Ugaas in their lectures of interviews. The obvious reason was that Raage Ugaas had became the most famous personality from the 1800s. Gaariye, Meygaag Samatar and others in somaliland took the bait and swallowed the propaganda. In the 1970s Meygaag Samatar an educated Isaaq had written a paper on one of Raage Ugaas poems.
Tix iyo Tiraab is the title of the new published Raage Ugaas book. The two words in English can be translated as " poetry and prose ". All Somali literature can be divided as Tix ( poems) and Tiraab ( prose) the title is not accidental the Daarood also claim Raage Ugaas himself divided the Somali literature into these two.
Raage Ugaas never advanced such ridiculous claim himself, he just mentioned these traditional Somali phrases in his poetry:
Hadal waa tiraab iyo tix uun, waxaad tidhaahdaaye.
Simply by stating the traditional division in his poetry doesn't mean he invented them. But the modern Daarood will use that as an evidence for him introducing these divisions. Similarly Raage Ugaas stated that most Somali poems begin with the traditional chant Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay:
Hooyaalayey gabyga waa ugu horeeyaaye
Halla uma tartee maansadaa, lagu hagaajaayee
Here he simply stating that phrase is preface of all poems and it doesn't mean much its only used to embellish the poem.
The author of the book is one Ogaadeen with the title of Dr Axmed Nuur Maxamed. I watched his book been promoted in a Daarood t.v network. I watched the interview to see if he would substantiate all their claim. Sadly the interview and the t.v host both are below standard, the host was not up to the standard he seem completely ignorant of basic knowledge. Here is the cheerleading segment:
I advice not to waste time on the interview just continue reading.
The rest of their claim is soo ridiculous to warrant a debunk, they are typical of Daarood madness run a mock in the effort to promote their tribe.
The one about Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay is so ridiculous that even our ancient cousins the Masai would laugh at this Daarood claim.
This is a traditional Masai chant in the bush. Watch the conclusions of the song 3:14-3:18. Here the Masai conclude their song by saying " hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay "
I won't be the least surprised if Voltage and the Daarood supremacist argue yes that Raage Ugaas telepathically taught the Masai hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay.
From the 1960s Xirsi Magan and Shireh Jaamac both Daarood literature supremacist attempted to promote Raage Ugaas as top poet. They attributed to him many pioneering claim:
1- that he supposedly invented the Somali poetic meter.
2- that his poems are the most ancient of Somali poetry.
3- that he invented the poetic traditional preface " hoyalaayeey hoyaaleey hooby ".
4- that he divided the Somali literature into tix and Tiraab.
During the reign of Afweyne, Idaajaa basically had an absolute monopoly on all Somali media both radio and print media. Throughout 1970s and 1980s he promoted Raage Ugaas in his radio Mogadisho and in Xidigta October and Ogaal weekly. They also incorporated Raage Ugaas poetry into school curriculum to familiarize him with all Somalis.
In case that was not enough Afweyne personally interfered and built and named an school in the capital after Raage Ugaas ( an elementary school) to imprint the name of Raage Ugaas on first graders.
It wasn't long after that this revisionism bare fruit. Most Somali song composers and play writers began to quote Raage Ugaas in their lectures of interviews. The obvious reason was that Raage Ugaas had became the most famous personality from the 1800s. Gaariye, Meygaag Samatar and others in somaliland took the bait and swallowed the propaganda. In the 1970s Meygaag Samatar an educated Isaaq had written a paper on one of Raage Ugaas poems.
Tix iyo Tiraab is the title of the new published Raage Ugaas book. The two words in English can be translated as " poetry and prose ". All Somali literature can be divided as Tix ( poems) and Tiraab ( prose) the title is not accidental the Daarood also claim Raage Ugaas himself divided the Somali literature into these two.
Raage Ugaas never advanced such ridiculous claim himself, he just mentioned these traditional Somali phrases in his poetry:
Hadal waa tiraab iyo tix uun, waxaad tidhaahdaaye.
Simply by stating the traditional division in his poetry doesn't mean he invented them. But the modern Daarood will use that as an evidence for him introducing these divisions. Similarly Raage Ugaas stated that most Somali poems begin with the traditional chant Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay:
Hooyaalayey gabyga waa ugu horeeyaaye
Halla uma tartee maansadaa, lagu hagaajaayee
Here he simply stating that phrase is preface of all poems and it doesn't mean much its only used to embellish the poem.
The author of the book is one Ogaadeen with the title of Dr Axmed Nuur Maxamed. I watched his book been promoted in a Daarood t.v network. I watched the interview to see if he would substantiate all their claim. Sadly the interview and the t.v host both are below standard, the host was not up to the standard he seem completely ignorant of basic knowledge. Here is the cheerleading segment:
I advice not to waste time on the interview just continue reading.
The rest of their claim is soo ridiculous to warrant a debunk, they are typical of Daarood madness run a mock in the effort to promote their tribe.
The one about Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay is so ridiculous that even our ancient cousins the Masai would laugh at this Daarood claim.
This is a traditional Masai chant in the bush. Watch the conclusions of the song 3:14-3:18. Here the Masai conclude their song by saying " hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay "
I won't be the least surprised if Voltage and the Daarood supremacist argue yes that Raage Ugaas telepathically taught the Masai hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay.
Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Cuqdada iska saar oo ragaas hawshooda u da naagyaha naagtu dhashay.
Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Maxaad la barooranaysaa? Waxa cabaadka kaa keenay the obvious which is having your tribal claim bullodoozed and known no way to counter my solid argument you use the Daarood plan B defense " bacaac waa lay necbyey " nobody hates you little missy what is hated is your constant self promoting clannish propaganda and that I will never tolerate it i will bulldoze it.gobdoon wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:55 am Cuqdada iska saar oo ragaas hawshooda u da naagyaha naagtu dhashay.
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Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
What do you expect?
The same fuckers tried to propagate the lie that some ignoble Bon Marehan that no one has heard of "invented" the modern Somali script. Their capacity to lie knows no bounds.
The same people claimed that the official Somali was not Northern Somali but something called Af-Mudug
The same fuckers tried to propagate the lie that some ignoble Bon Marehan that no one has heard of "invented" the modern Somali script. Their capacity to lie knows no bounds.
The same people claimed that the official Somali was not Northern Somali but something called Af-Mudug

Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Don't make them committ suicide the Daarood needs the " anaa wax kaste leh syndrome " to boost their self esteem. Lets agree that they taught the Masai hoyaalayeey, otherwise all the Daarood Alice In Wonderland of the world will commit suicide.Ben Dover wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:17 am What do you expect?
The same fuckers tried to propagate the lie that some ignoble Bon Marehan that no one has heard of "invented" the modern Somali script. Their capacity to lie knows no bounds.
The same people claimed that the official Somali was not Northern Somali but something called Af-Mudug![]()
You have to understand the reason Daarood hate Isaaq more then any other clan is that Isaaq historically dismissed their fancy claim and superseded in every confrontations while the rest of the Somalis either submit to their lies or completely are oblivious to it.
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Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Northern Somali is called Af-qaldaan....so it can't be be offical Somali 

Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
90% of modern Somali in linguistic is called Northern Somali. The rest is Benadri and Af May.KUSH wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:27 am Northern Somali is called Af-qaldaan....so it can't be be offical Somali![]()
Hawiye donkey horta goormaad soo gaadhaysaan the rest of humanity.
Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
I am wonder a bastard of the Arab issaq can claim the Somali language, do you know how stupid that sounds?X.Playa wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:29 am90% of modern Somali in linguistic is called Northern Somali. The rest is Benadri and Af May.KUSH wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:27 am Northern Somali is called Af-qaldaan....so it can't be be offical Somali![]()
Hawiye donkey horta goormaad soo gaadhaysaan the rest of humanity.
Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
All scholars agree that the Isaaq tongue is the classical Somali.KUSH wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:31 amI am wonder a bastard of the Arab issaq can claim the Somali language, do you know how stupid that sounds?X.Playa wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:29 am90% of modern Somali in linguistic is called Northern Somali. The rest is Benadri and Af May.KUSH wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:27 am Northern Somali is called Af-qaldaan....so it can't be be offical Somali![]()
Hawiye donkey horta goormaad soo gaadhaysaan the rest of humanity.
Your Somali is Creol Somali its like the Haitian French and Jamaican English. A bastard bi product of the master screwing his slaves .
Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Your not even Somali, you half-caste son of a whore, you should be thankful we gave you our language, wasaq wasaq dhalay.X.Playa wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:34 amAll scholars agree that the Isaaq tongue is the classical Somali.KUSH wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:31 amI am wonder a bastard of the Arab issaq can claim the Somali language, do you know how stupid that sounds?X.Playa wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:29 am
90% of modern Somali in linguistic is called Northern Somali. The rest is Benadri and Af May.
Hawiye donkey horta goormaad soo gaadhaysaan the rest of humanity.
Your Somali is Creol Somali its like the Haitian French and Jamaican English. A bastard bi product of the master screwing his slaves .
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Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
I was waiting for the part where he usually claims, "it was started by the iidoors....we was kings". 

Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Isaaq never claim anything that doesn't belong to them. Unlike your Daarood where shame or any sense of embarrassment is foreign to your kind, we in the other hand have both of these noble traits.original dervish wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:58 pm I was waiting for the part where he usually claims, "it was started by the iidoors....we was kings".![]()
Daarood Waxa waalay " na arkaay na maqlaay syndrome" soon you will claim your own moon landing version, nothing is out of reach of Daarood faan.
Now on a serious note , how do you suppose little missy Hoyaalayeey reached the Masai? Was it your edo Saado Cali or was it Raage Ugaas who schooled the Masai in this Daarood invention ?
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Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Do you honestly believe I have a single second to spare on your iidoor inspired bullshit......gtfoh! 

Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
Spare a second? Really your kintir has been rubbing on every topic of mine for years with your one sentence and smiley comments.original dervish wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:01 am Do you honestly believe I have a single second to spare on your iidoor inspired bullshit......gtfoh!![]()
If I were you i'd come out of the closet and finish the sexual transformation. Instead of giggling and eye rolling pretending to be Faarax when in reality you are a big booty Cambaro or Amber as modern Somali yuppies pronounce it.
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Re: Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed
The sexual frustration in this iidoor is palpable.
I feel sullied after every interaction.
I feel sullied after every interaction.

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