This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Daily chitchat on Somali politics.

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
Murax
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 28297
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:45 am

This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Murax »

A Marehan, Murusade, Abgal, Barwaani whatever thug who's a slave of some UAE official would have been aprehended just as quick. I seriously doubt HG gave a crap about this Guy. Anyways I saw a picture of Him released, smiling with a broken arm. Maybe He wises up and shuts His mouth now. :som: ha nolaato
random123456
Posts: 174
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by random123456 »

It had everything to do with qabiil. This government has antagonists hg for a while now, of course this wouldn't stand.

First let's talk about the 6 people who died, then maybe we'll get to arresting a presidential hopeful without trial :som:
original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 29468
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by original dervish »

They should throw the book at this UAE agent. :D :som: :up:
BVSNet
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1627
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:46 pm

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by BVSNet »

Murax wrote:Maybe He wises up and shuts His mouth now. ha nolaato
What this government has done is illegally attack someone's house in the middle of the night and murder 6 people in the process.

A government acting with impunity after accusing citizens of "treason" without any legal basis is something that Somalia has left behind and we will not go back to.

So no, Abdirahman Abdishakur will not shut his mouth and neither will any opposition member. This is not a dictatorship.

I agree with you though, this isn't about qabiil. This is bigger than HG, this is about the fundamental rights of each and every Somali. The executive should never be allowed to trample on the law.
User avatar
AbkoowDhiblaawe
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 14237
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:02 pm
Location: chilling in Liido beach

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by AbkoowDhiblaawe »

You think Thabit, waare, xaaf the mudulood imam and all the heaveweights defended Abdishakur cause he was HG? Lol.

The thing that pissed of people was the illegitimate way the man was arrested. If they didn’t lash out this country would’ve devoloped into a dictatorship. Where leaders can do what they want to opposition without consequences. Heck even Ceyr don’t give a shit about abdushakur.

This gov got terrible advisers. I saw this coming a mile away. Check voltage’s thread. The gov just shot itself in the foot by hyping a looser. They turned a knowbody to a king. He will milk this so hard.
User avatar
Murax
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 28297
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:45 am

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Murax »

BVSnet,

Hope all's been well. That said You don't think it is a tad bit disingenuous to say 'Oh, Poor old miskiin workerbee everyday Somali citizen who got attacked for nothing but voicing His opinion'? I do think it is disingenuous to say that. Abdishakur, Cumar Buur are not everyday Somali citizens but dangerous, Non-State actors who have been given boatloads of cash to destabilize Somalia. NO I don't think any Somali leader should ever have the right to trample upon the rights of the Shacbi but dare I say this was a matter of National Security. UAE is actively trying to undermine the Government of Somalia and anybody who feels they could just come in and do another Nation's bidding in Somalia shouldn't feel safe.


AbkoowDhiblaawe,

Bro, Somalia has had too many damn years, especially US speaking as Koonfur Where there was nobody incharge, nobody with control and not knowing Where the buck stops with anything. Saas miyaan ahaanaynaa weligeen? Sometimes like is about picking the least bad option. I honestly think the only problem in this scenario was releasing Him so quickly.
User avatar
bashe19
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3303
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:57 am

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by bashe19 »

These moryans when they learn the way of governing the nation? What happened to The guy habaargidir is just the the job of low eforcement branch of somali govermevt, and isnot vinish yet.

You need to go school of politics hadii kale wax nagabarta stronzi maladetti. We are looking forward for governing this country with and without mooryaans bastardi.



:dj:
BVSNet
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1627
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:46 pm

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by BVSNet »

Murax wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:30 pm BVSnet,

Hope all's been well. That said You don't think it is a tad bit disingenuous to say 'Oh, Poor old miskiin workerbee everyday Somali citizen who got attacked for nothing but voicing His opinion'? I do think it is disingenuous to say that. Abdishakur, Cumar Buur are not everyday Somali citizens but dangerous, Non-State actors who have been given boatloads of cash to destabilize Somalia. NO I don't think any Somali leader should ever have the right to trample upon the rights of the Shacbi but dare I say this was a matter of National Security. UAE is actively trying to undermine the Government of Somalia and anybody who feels they could just come in and do another Nation's bidding in Somalia shouldn't feel safe.


AbkoowDhiblaawe,

Bro, Somalia has had too many damn years, especially US speaking as Koonfur Where there was nobody incharge, nobody with control and not knowing Where the buck stops with anything. Saas miyaan ahaanaynaa weligeen? Sometimes like is about picking the least bad option. I honestly think the only problem in this scenario was releasing Him so quickly.
If the government has a case, bring it to court, if found guilty the accused is punished accordingly. Going into someone's house guns blazing at midnight, killing people and then when asked to state your case and present your evidence to ask for 5 days.... Are you kidding me? So you killed those people without any certainty that they were dangerous and needed to be killed on that night?

Silencing political enemies by killing them or imprisoning them without evidence or a legal case is what happens in countries with a dictator. Somalia is not a dictatorship.
User avatar
Ben Dover
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5259
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:08 pm
Location: getrichathome.co.uk
Contact:

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Ben Dover »

Boon marehan have no shame.

This has nothing to do with Somalinimo or some fake notion of nationalism and all to do with qabyaalad. Qabyaalad is why every single boon marehan has taking it upon themselves to be the cheesemonger's spokespeople on Snet.

Yet you doofaars are badmouthing other Somali clans whom host your cheesemonger in their city for coming to the defence of their politicians.

Doofaar weligii ma daahiro.
User avatar
Adali
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 10587
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:04 pm
Location: Throw me to the hyenas and I will return laughing as the pack leader.

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Adali »

qaranka sharaftiis hala ilaaliyo, abdishakur is traitor regardless of how SFG handled it, we know for a fact he receives funds from UAE and happy to thrown Somalia under the bus for 1 mil if given the chance, Hawiye elders wee ku ceebobeen defending this type of character, if CCC was in his place you would not hear a peep from Darood. Hawiye magaca moriyaan iskama reebi karaan because of this type of actions.

At least Abdishakur will now not talk so much nonsense now that he has his freedom back he should be blocked from politics, toxic people like him turn Somalis against each other for no reason.

AUN to the goons that lost their lives defend him.
User avatar
Adali
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 10587
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:04 pm
Location: Throw me to the hyenas and I will return laughing as the pack leader.

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Adali »

Ben Dover wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:45 pm Boon marehan have no shame.

This has nothing to do with Somalinimo or some fake notion of nationalism and all to do with qabyaalad. Qabyaalad is why every single boon marehan has taking it upon themselves to be the cheesemonger's spokespeople on Snet.

Yet you doofaars are badmouthing other Somali clans whom host your cheesemonger in their city for coming to the defence of their politicians.

Doofaar weligii ma daahiro.
stay out of somali politics iidoor wagash, go brush your ilkacas teeth smelly midgaan.
User avatar
Adali
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 10587
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:04 pm
Location: Throw me to the hyenas and I will return laughing as the pack leader.

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Adali »

BVSNet wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:44 pm
Murax wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:30 pm BVSnet,

Hope all's been well. That said You don't think it is a tad bit disingenuous to say 'Oh, Poor old miskiin workerbee everyday Somali citizen who got attacked for nothing but voicing His opinion'? I do think it is disingenuous to say that. Abdishakur, Cumar Buur are not everyday Somali citizens but dangerous, Non-State actors who have been given boatloads of cash to destabilize Somalia. NO I don't think any Somali leader should ever have the right to trample upon the rights of the Shacbi but dare I say this was a matter of National Security. UAE is actively trying to undermine the Government of Somalia and anybody who feels they could just come in and do another Nation's bidding in Somalia shouldn't feel safe.


AbkoowDhiblaawe,

Bro, Somalia has had too many damn years, especially US speaking as Koonfur Where there was nobody incharge, nobody with control and not knowing Where the buck stops with anything. Saas miyaan ahaanaynaa weligeen? Sometimes like is about picking the least bad option. I honestly think the only problem in this scenario was releasing Him so quickly.
If the government has a case, bring it to court, if found guilty the accused is punished accordingly. Going into someone's house guns blazing at midnight, killing people and then when asked to state your case and present your evidence to ask for 5 days.... Are you kidding me? So you killed those people without any certainty that they were dangerous and needed to be killed on that night?

Silencing political enemies by killing them or imprisoning them without evidence or a legal case is what happens in countries with a dictator. Somalia is not a dictatorship.
clearly they wanted to arrest him, the incident was not an assassination attempt. You right the government handled it wrong, but Abdishakur is flight risk he should be house arrested, they still have his documents and computer from the raid, this data is more important than keeping him imprisoned, when the information is extracted beesha Hawiye who defended him will take the biggest L, you have just a big a stake in Somalia as we do, why defend a traitor that is selling all of us down the river.
User avatar
bashe19
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3303
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:57 am

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by bashe19 »

The gorverment is prouder then this incident, the work was just did by low enforcement branch, do not blame all assecutive bord, it's egnorance when the security in action right or wrong is only for low enforcements section.


avete capito?
User avatar
Murax
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 28297
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:45 am

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Murax »

BVSNet,

Sis I work in Cyber Security. I mean really lets be honest. You really think Somali institutions and Intelligence Services are so advanced to Where they could do cyber forensics, intercept encrypted Emails, monitor communications between Him and His foreign masters in Abu Dhabi? The answer is hell no Somalia is a failed State thats ill equipped to handle a investigation like this as far as bringing legit proof. What is known without a shadow of a doubt by anyone who has followed Somali Politics is that He, Cumar Buur and others are Non State Actors. Even people here on Somalinet are not denying that.


Ben Dover,

I mean this sincerely not insultingly but You should think about Quran Saar and maybe Anti Depression medication.
User avatar
Ben Dover
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5259
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:08 pm
Location: getrichathome.co.uk
Contact:

Re: This Had Zero To Do With Qabiil

Post by Ben Dover »

Adali wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:48 pm
Ben Dover wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:45 pm Boon marehan have no shame.

This has nothing to do with Somalinimo or some fake notion of nationalism and all to do with qabyaalad. Qabyaalad is why every single boon marehan has taking it upon themselves to be the cheesemonger's spokespeople on Snet.

Yet you doofaars are badmouthing other Somali clans whom host your cheesemonger in their city for coming to the defence of their politicians.

Doofaar weligii ma daahiro.
stay out of somali politics iidoor wagash, go brush your ilkacas teeth smelly midgaan.
Just pointing out hunter-gatherer boon marehan's munaafiqnimo.

All of you roaches support your cheesemonger out of qabyaalad yet you denounce your hosts and protectors Hawiye when they look after their own.

Still dont understand why Hawiye dont keep you in check like we keep our doofaars in check.
Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Politics - General Discussions”