Axmed Guray - What do you know about him?

[AwRastaale]

Cagdheer coward waxay kaga dhagtay abtirisimo as if Faqash know the abtirsimi of Gurey.

Desperation at its best and keeps repeating the same two fokin lines while Idoor keep dropping paper after paper.

What a destruction. The rest of the other faqash long abandoned this post knowing they have nothing to rebuttal. Why not just repeat Makadoor and abtirisi like the low IQ cagdheer?

AwAmxaar


Yuu ahaa Ahmed gurey? Ma Habar Awal ? Ma Arap ? Ma Ciidagale?

What's his abrirsiinyo??


If you don't know ,let's wait Ramzzy's new discovery.The iidoor scholar , the great librarian

Oncw again they humiliated you same way Haile Selassie made your forefathers kiss the ring. You have nothing. No body has the abtirsimo of Gurey but the two Isaac legends have silenced your people. Anyone reading this topic can see their sources after sources while you just troll and keep repeat abtirsimo. Can you publish his Darod abtirsimo and what backing evidence do we have?

Cagdheer are not known for brain so I don’t expect much.

[BestPlaya]

First of all,let me make it clear that Cabdiraxman ibn ismaciil al-jiberti and Darood Ismaciil Jebarti were two different individuals. Darood Ismaciil lived 9th to 10th centuries and the Hashemite shaykh lived in the 15th century when Darood clans lived from Bari to Herer .In fact ,there were several Darood sultanates and kingdoms that existed before Adal wars .According to the centuries old Darood traditional folklores ,Darood was a young man from Yemen .He was sent into exile by his kinsmen .He was found climbing on a tree in somewhere in the northeast coast by local Somali men from Dir c
and Hawiya .Hawiye men were hostile unwelcoming to the young Darood .It was Dir clan chief who welcomed him and he even married Darood to his daughter Dombira and the result of their marriage was great Darood Nation who historically dominated the aboriginal clans in the horn ,Dir,Aydur and Hawiya

Pre-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

----Amaanle kingdom ----Majeerteen
---Gobyauud kingdom -- Bah falagsato warsengali
--Tanade kingdom--------Founded by Boqor Aw Makki
--Walanwal sultanate---Ree Sacad Amuudan
--marexan kingdom----Boqor Maxamad Dauud
--Bartire gerads ---------Founded by garaad Yaaqub
Shirshore gerads------Founded gerad shirshore
Warsngeli gerads-----founded gerad Cabdalle Dhidin
Miyirwalal kingdom-founded Malonke Aw Muuse


Post-Adal Darood sultanates

--Gerad Cali Dable completely destroyed Bah Falagsato kingdom lead by Gobyauud.

-Amaanle kingdom succumbed to the rise of Maxamuud Saleeban sultans and later on to their kings.

-Ree Sacad and Walanwal dynasty is now completely forgotten history.Some wrongly believe that walashma/walanwal sultanate was Arab dynasty.The powerful ree Sacad clan was first weakened by Habesha and it was finally destroyed by Miyirwalal coalition of other Ogaden clans.Miyirwalal then was ruled by Bartire for centuries .Lastly Cawdaaq clan of Ogaden lead the Miyirwalal coalition and challenged the Bertire Garaads.It was this time Ogaden branched off from Jidwaaq rule .Cawdaaq briefly ruled Ogaden clan .In fact ,they were weakened by retaliatory wars from Jidwaaqs .Maxamad Subeer succeeded Awdaaq to the title of Grand Ugaas of Ogaden which they still have .The first Maxamad Subeer Ugaas was Ugaas Galab then Ugaas Nuur



Back to the topic

If Shaykh Isxaaq died in 1350 then his grand children took part in the war.For instance Khalid always told the story of Captured Amhara Slave mothered MAKAHIL ISXAAQ SACAD MUSE.This means Ixsaaq sacad was fighting alongside axmed Gurey 1550s .Now,how comes you claim the history of Bartire(Habar Maqdi) lead by Garaad Dhaweyd Garaad Cisman and Axmed Gurey Xusen while in fact Isaaq was only 4 to 5 generation old??


Concede it guys .Habar Maqdi ma aha Habar Makadoor iyo Habar magaadle toona.It was a coalition of Absame clans lead by Axmed Gurey Xuseen and geraad Dhaweyd of bartire.Yabaree Jidwaaq kuma ayna jirin Habar Magdi coalition bcoz they were a big clan with their own standing army.


Isaaq
Awal ,gadhxajis,ayub,Arab(Habar Magaadle)
Subeer
Muuse
Sacad
Isxaaq(lived axmed gureys era) -
Makaahil (son of Amhara slave)

Samaroon
Makador (Habar Makador)
Makahil
Muuse
Mahaahil dhere (lived axmed gurey era)
Ugaas Cali

Sida muuqata isaaq iyo Samaroon labaduba waxay ahaayeen two extended families oo heer qabiil mayna gaadhsiisneyn xilligiii jihaadi axmed gurey.

[Havoc]

Pre-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

----Amaanle kingdom ----Majeerteen
---Gobyauud kingdom -- Bah falagsato warsengali
--Tanade kingdom--------Founded by Boqor Aw Makki
--Walanwal sultanate---Ree Sacad Amuudan
--marexan kingdom----Boqor Maxamad Dauud
--Bartire gerads ---------Founded by garaad Yaaqub
Shirshore gerads------Founded gerad shirshore
Warsngeli gerads-----founded gerad Cabdalle Dhidin
Miyirwalal kingdom-founded Malonke Aw Muuse

you forgot Post-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

--BOON kingdom------- Boqor Ahmed Al Boni
--Cagadheer sultanate ----Sultan Ali Cagadheer
--Dhaanto Kingdom---- King Osman dhaanto
--AGA AGA sultanate ---- Gerad Abderrahman the third

I will remember the rest later inshallah

[BestPlaya]

Closely study this comparative abirsi of different Somali personalities that lived Axmed Gurey's era .U will understand a lot .


Darood
Sade
Mareexaan
Awsame
Balyiri
Hodanbari
Gaashireedle
Isaaq
Amaanreer
Raadamiir
Warwaajecle
Maxamad
Muuse
Abaadir
Daaud
Boqor Maxamad
Axmad
Ciis
Mataan
Yuusuf---Hiraaabe



Darood
Kablalax
Koombe
Amlaale
Hantiile
Harti
Maxamad (Habar Majeerteen)
Aawe
Nabidoor
Nooleys
Xajiijle
Maxamad
Talareer
Himidoor
Toljecle
Umadnabi
Jibraail
Ibraahim
Saleebaan
Maxamuud
Cumar


Darood
Kablalax
Kuumade
Absame
Jidwaaq
Bartire
Quwaaxde
Garaad Yaaquub
Garaad Wardi
Garaad Laag
Garaad Yoonis
Garaad Muuse
Garaad Yuusuf
Garaad Axmed
Garaad Cismaan
Garaad Dhaaweed
Garaad Nuur
Garaad Dhaaweed


Darood (1000 AD)
Kablalax
Kuumade
Absame
Ogaadeen
Tagaalwaaq
Barwaaq
Kulubkan
Kaante
Aw Muuse
Baahale
Subeer
Maxamad
Muuse
Maxaad
Cabdille
Maxaad'Roob'



Darood
Kablalax
Koombe
Amlaale
Hantiile
Harti
Moorasante
Warsangali
Kooge
Garaad Cabdalle Dhiidin
Garaad Xasan
Garaad Ibraahim
Garaad Cumar
Garaad Maxamuud
Garaad Ciise
Garaad Yacquub
Garaad Siciid
Garaad Yuusuf
Garaad Ciise
Garaad Cali "Dable"


Darood
Kablalax
Kuumade
Cabdiraxman 'Ogadeen'
Amuudan
Sacad
Xasan 'Barkante'
Yuusuf
Xaamid
Maxamad
Axmad
Cumar 'wilinwili'
Suldaan Cali
Suldaan Mansuur
Suldan Naxwi
Suldaan Sabrudiin
Suldan Cali
Suldaan Axmad
Sultan Sacad diin
Abubakr
Asharudiin
Sultan Maxamad
Sultan Omar Din



Idoor and Gudabirsi




Siciid
Samaroon
Makadoor (Habar Makador)
Makaahiil --Makaahiil
Muuse. --Muuse
Makaahiil. --Jibriil (ADAL WARS)
Ugaas Cali ------Nuur/Jibriil




Isaaq
Garxajis
Daaud
Muuse
Cabdiraxmaan
Cabdalle
Ibrahim
Abokor (ADAL WARS)
Matan(share a mother with ree nur)

Isaaq
Garxajis
Siciid
Carre
Ismaaciil
Cabdalle
Cumar.
Aadan (1500s)



Isaaq
Awal
Subeer
Muuse
isxaaq
Abokor
Makaahil(Habesha slave's son)


Isaaq (
Garxajis
Siciid
Carre
Muse
Ibraahim
Fiqi Aadan (ADAL ERA 1500s)
Maxamad
Xaamud
Jibraail
Cali
Awad
Saalax
Hajjy Sharmarke (born 1797)

[BestPlaya]

Pre-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

----Amaanle kingdom ----Majeerteen
---Gobyauud kingdom -- Bah falagsato warsengali
--Tanade kingdom--------Founded by Boqor Aw Makki
--Walanwal sultanate---Ree Sacad Amuudan
--marexan kingdom----Boqor Maxamad Dauud
--Bartire gerads ---------Founded by garaad Yaaqub
Shirshore gerads------Founded gerad shirshore
Warsngeli gerads-----founded gerad Cabdalle Dhidin
Miyirwalal kingdom-founded Malonke Aw Muuse

you forgot Post-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

--BOON kingdom------- Boqor Ahmed Al Boni
--Cagadheer sultanate ----Sultan Ali Cagadheer
--Dhaanto Kingdom---- King Osman dhaanto
--AGA AGA sultanate ---- Gerad Abderrahman the third

I will remember the rest later inshallah

Bro ,you misunderstood the word kingdom .Don't picture in your mind English or Chinese kingdoms of the past Here l mean a clan or a coalition of several clans with their own grand chief whose title was either Boqor or Garaad .

[Ben Dover]

This is exactly why no one engages this low-IQ cagdheer.

He has written fan-fiction above and presented it as history, f-king dimwit is claiming Ahmed Gurey, an Isaaq Habar Magadle man, to be a retarded cagdheer... I believe this is a first in Snet

And his ridiculous claim is based on.... wait for it.... completely made up abtirsi!

He was caught lying multiple times in this thread, slapped around until his already low IQ dropped by an extra 40%... and you see the results above.

[BestPlaya]

Is your abrirsi a fan-fiction??????


Those iidoor lackeys who studied abrtrsi are now hiding because they're too arrogant to concede it.

Your dwarf clan counts 17-22 to shaykh iidoor .Now,how do you expect that you had an impact in a jihaad of 1500s

[Ben Dover]

Dont worry about my abtirsi, perhaps worry about yours with the huge discrepancy between Harti themselves, and between Harti and your dimwitted cagdheers

Bal waxaad meesha lasoo shir timi eeg, there is a reason why your people are known for low IQ, and you are a great example.

Again, this is why no one gives a shit about you or your clan, your sources are Snet posts

[BestPlaya]

Garaad wiilwaal and Suldan Amaan lived the same era.This abrirsi comparison clearly shows:

1.Isaaq were small clan during Adal.

2.Isaaq probably lived during Garaad wardi Garaad Yacquub.
.3.Isaaq had NO culture of Gerads.So the garaad dhaweyd mentioned in the Italian translation of the futuh was infact Garaad Dhaweyd garaad Cisman of Bartire





Darood
Kablalax
Kuumade
Absame
Jidwaaq
Barre(Bartire)
Garaad Yacqub

Isaaq--------------------Garaad Wardi
Gadhxajis------------Garaad Laag
Siciid-------------------Garaad Yoonis
Carre-------------------Garaad Muuse
Ismaacil --------------Garaad Yuusuf
Cabdalle---------------Garaad Axmad
Cumar------------------Garaad Cisman
Aadan------------Garaad Dhaweyd
Maxamad-------------Garaad Nuur
Xildiid-------------------Garaad Dhaweyd
Cisman---------------Garaad Faarax ileey
Xirsi------------------------Garaad Cafi
Ceynaashe-----------Garaad Aw Madar
Sugulle-------------------Garaad Xirsi
Suldan Diiriye----------Garaad Faarax
Suldan Amaan--------Garaad Xirsi

[BestPlaya]

Dont worry about my abtirsi, perhaps worry about yours with the huge discrepancy between Harti themselves, and between Harti and your dimwitted cagdheers

Bal waxaad meesha lasoo shir timi eeg, there is a reason why your people are known for low IQ, and you are a great example.

Again, this is why no one gives a shit about you or your clan, your sources are Snet posts

AW-AXMAAR ,XPLAYA ,KHALID and lastly THE GREAT LIBRARIAN all fail to provide the specific sub clan of Axmed gurey and his abtirsi to sh.iidoor.That question is still unanswered .y'all failed to give satisfactory answer rather they sent you to do your DOOCIL BUSINESS OF CAY and AFLAGAADO

[Havoc]

Pre-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

----Amaanle kingdom ----Majeerteen
---Gobyauud kingdom -- Bah falagsato warsengali
--Tanade kingdom--------Founded by Boqor Aw Makki
--Walanwal sultanate---Ree Sacad Amuudan
--marexan kingdom----Boqor Maxamad Dauud
--Bartire gerads ---------Founded by garaad Yaaqub
Shirshore gerads------Founded gerad shirshore
Warsngeli gerads-----founded gerad Cabdalle Dhidin
Miyirwalal kingdom-founded Malonke Aw Muuse

you forgot Post-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

--BOON kingdom------- Boqor Ahmed Al Boni
--Cagadheer sultanate ----Sultan Ali Cagadheer
--Dhaanto Kingdom---- King Osman dhaanto
--AGA AGA sultanate ---- Gerad Abderrahman the third

I will remember the rest later inshallah

Bro ,you misunderstood the word kingdom .Don't picture in your mind English or Chinese kingdoms of the past Here l mean a clan or a coalition of several clans with their own grand chief whose title was either Boqor or Garaad .

My bad cousin that makes sense. I'm just tired of Somalis and their exaggerated sense of self importance. Ajuran Sultanate is the only Somali state worth mentioning.

[BestPlaya]

you forgot Post-Adal Darood sultanates and kingdoms

--BOON kingdom------- Boqor Ahmed Al Boni
--Cagadheer sultanate ----Sultan Ali Cagadheer
--Dhaanto Kingdom---- King Osman dhaanto
--AGA AGA sultanate ---- Gerad Abderrahman the third

I will remember the rest later inshallah

Bro ,you misunderstood the word kingdom .Don't picture in your mind English or Chinese kingdoms of the past Here l mean a clan or a coalition of several clans with their own grand chief whose title was either Boqor or Garaad .

My bad cousin that makes sense. I'm just tired of Somalis and their exaggerated sense of self importance. Ajuran Sultanate is the only Somali state worth mentioning.

Waad garwaaqsatay niyoow and yes Ajuuran was the most powerful Somali dynasty bcoz it managed to unite all southern Somalis under the leadership of their powerful Garens.

The first Isaaq clan chief was Dhuxuur Baraar (1600s) then was sacked and Cabdi Ciise's son Suldan Guleed was was the first suldan of iidoor.Silimilarly,the first Gadabursi suldan was Ugaas Cali Makaahil (1600s).

This clearly shows iidoor and Gadabursi history as significant and independent clans only started post-adal wars somewhere in 1600s .

[Havoc]

Bro ,you misunderstood the word kingdom .Don't picture in your mind English or Chinese kingdoms of the past Here l mean a clan or a coalition of several clans with their own grand chief whose title was either Boqor or Garaad .

My bad cousin that makes sense. I'm just tired of Somalis and their exaggerated sense of self importance. Ajuran Sultanate is the only Somali state worth mentioning.

Waad garwaaqsatay niyoow and yes Ajuuran was the most powerful Somali dynasty bcoz it managed to unite all southern Somalis under the leadership of their powerful Garens.

The first Isaaq clan chief was Dhuxuur Baraar (1600s) then was sacked and Cabdi Ciise's son Suldan Guleed was was the first suldan of iidoor.Silimilarly,the first Gadabursi suldan was Ugaas Cali Makaahil (1600s).

This clearly shows iidoor and Gadabursi history as significant and independent clans only started post-adal wars somewhere in 1600s .

Too bad we don't have a detailed written records that we can refer to instead of arguing. I think some our people derive satisfaction from past glories, even if it is exaggerated, instead of focusing on developing and becoming great. We are behind in development than most Africans and that is a shame.

[Ben Dover]

AW-AXMAAR ,XPLAYA ,KHALID and lastly THE GREAT LIBRARIAN all fail to provide the specific sub clan of Axmed gurey and his abtirsi to sh.iidoor.That question is still unanswered .y'all failed to give satisfactory answer rather they sent you to do your DOOCIL BUSINESS OF CAY and AFLAGAADO

We do not need to provide any sources simply because we have already detailed all of our sources from reliable 3rd party accounts including the Arabic text!

You are clearly distraught from the beating you have received. This was an absolute embarrassment wallee, even you can see that, but you are trying hard to cover up the humiliation YOU caused your people

- You first claimed only Isaaq signed treaties with Britain.
Boom! All of your doofaar ismaacil cousin treaties were provided.

- You then felt embarrassed so claimed that your dimwitted cagdheer did not sign a treaty.
Boom! Your treaty was provided.

- You tried to cover that up so you claimed you were not servants of colonial power.
Boom! Your (cagdheer ciil iyo calaacal) letters were provided.

- You tried to pivot onto claiming they were not important letters.
Boom! A PHOTOGRAPH of your sultan kissing the feet and hands of AMXAAR was provided.

- You tried a last ditch effort at covering this disgusting past so YOU brought up Michael Mariano and Isaaq Sultans seeking to free your retarded people, somehow your cagdheer brain thought your best way out of this situation was to attack the honourable Mariano.

Boom! A photograph of YOUR OWN SULTAN being led around London by the same Michael Mariano was provided.



You are done son. You have singlehandedly caused your intellectually-deficient clan the most damage out of anyone in the history of Snet

Your claim that Axmed Gurey, who is documented to be Habar Magadle Isaaq is actually cagdheer just goes to show your cawaanimo. You use Snet posts as your sources.

Doqonki ogaden

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