Axmed Guray - What do you know about him?

[random123456]

AW-AXMAAR ,XPLAYA ,KHALID and lastly THE GREAT LIBRARIAN all fail to provide the specific sub clan of Axmed gurey and his abtirsi to sh.iidoor.That question is still unanswered .y'all failed to give satisfactory answer rather they sent you to do your DOOCIL BUSINESS OF CAY and AFLAGAADO

We do not need to provide any sources simply because we have already detailed all of our sources from reliable 3rd party accounts including the Arabic text!

You are clearly distraught from the beating you have received. This was an absolute embarrassment wallee, even you can see that, but you are trying hard to cover up the humiliation YOU caused your people

- You first claimed only Isaaq signed treaties with Britain.
Boom! All of your doofaar ismaacil cousin treaties were provided.

- You then felt embarrassed so claimed that your dimwitted cagdheer did not sign a treaty.
Boom! Your treaty was provided.

- You tried to cover that up so you claimed you were not servants of colonial power.
Boom! Your (cagdheer ciil iyo calaacal) letters were provided.

- You tried to pivot onto claiming they were not important letters.
Boom! A PHOTOGRAPH of your sultan kissing the feet and hands of AMXAAR was provided.

- You tried a last ditch effort at covering this disgusting past so YOU brought up Michael Mariano and Isaaq Sultans seeking to free your retarded people, somehow your cagdheer brain thought your best way out of this situation was to attack the honourable Mariano.

Boom! A photograph of YOUR OWN SULTAN being led around London by the same Michael Mariano was provided.



You are done son. You have singlehandedly caused your intellectually-deficient clan the most damage out of anyone in the history of Snet

Your claim that Axmed Gurey, who is documented to be Habar Magadle Isaaq is actually cagdheer just goes to show your cawaanimo. You use Snet posts as your sources.

Doqonki ogaden

We wuz sultanz and shyt

[BestPlaya]

We do not need to provide any sources simply because we have already detailed all of our sources from reliable 3rd party accounts including the Arabic text!

Most of the sources write Habar Magdi and not Habar Magaadle.Some sources relate Habar Magdi and Marehan .how are u related to marehan? .the rare Italian translation posted sometimes back by your 'great scholar' acknowledges that Garaad Dhaweyd lead the Habar Magdi.who is that garaad dhaweyd of iidoor? .Undoubtedly ,that garaad mentioned is Garaad dhaweyd Garaad Cisman of Bartire.Do you know your first suldan lived in 1700s ?..In short neither the Arabic sources nor the detailed abtirsi supports your case.Where is your great librarian? He has access to old written manuscripts that discuss everything of sh iidoor .I hope he will back up your ridiculous claims with written Arabic facts

You are clearly distraught from the beating you have received. This was an absolute embarrassment wallee, even you can see that, but you are trying hard to cover up the humiliation YOU caused your people

Iidoor in somnet are weak and emotional lackeys.You take on an individual in a group of 5 to 10

- You first claimed only Isaaq signed treaties with Britain.
Boom! All of your doofaar ismaacil cousin treaties were provided.

As I said ,Sultan bihi could only speak for his Aware district .He DIDN'T SIGNED any written treaties with the British .Besides that ,he never want Dhagaxbur and Awaare to join different countries.

Currently , Ogaden rules 3 regions and isaaqs only one . That says who has more power and influence between Ogaden and iidoor . History will remember Cagdheers as the most formidable clan in history who challenged and fought the colonialists.Isaaqs will always be remembered for quite the opposite

That sultan don't represent anyone .He was sultan for his locality. Because of the orphan-turned-gaal Michael Meriamo ,what if l declare the whole iidors were gaalo??.That degenerate Ugaas DIDN'T represent in his actions the entire clan living in 3 countries the same way Michael Meriyamo's gaalnimo can't be a blame to iidoor clan.

Boom! A photograph of YOUR OWN SULTAN being led around London by the same Michael Mariano was provided.



You are done son. You have singlehandedly caused your intellectually-deficient clan the most damage out of anyone in the history of Snet .Your claim that Axmed Gurey, who is documented to be Habar Magadle Isaaq is actually cagdheer just goes to show your cawaanimo. You use Snet posts as your sources.

Doqonki ogaden

Axmad gurey wasn't iidoor.iidoor was small and insignificant group before 1700s .that's a fact .

Aflagaado iyo oohin is not karbash.facts iyo wax macquula la IMO meesha.

[BestPlaya]

AW-AXMAAR ,XPLAYA ,KHALID and lastly THE GREAT LIBRARIAN all fail to provide the specific sub clan of Axmed gurey and his abtirsi to sh.iidoor.That question is still unanswered .y'all failed to give satisfactory answer rather they sent you to do your DOOCIL BUSINESS OF CAY and AFLAGAADO

We do not need to provide any sources simply because we have already detailed all of our sources from reliable 3rd party accounts including the Arabic text!

You are clearly distraught from the beating you have received. This was an absolute embarrassment wallee, even you can see that, but you are trying hard to cover up the humiliation YOU caused your people

- You first claimed only Isaaq signed treaties with Britain.
Boom! All of your doofaar ismaacil cousin treaties were provided.

- You then felt embarrassed so claimed that your dimwitted cagdheer did not sign a treaty.
Boom! Your treaty was provided.

- You tried to cover that up so you claimed you were not servants of colonial power.
Boom! Your (cagdheer ciil iyo calaacal) letters were provided.

- You tried to pivot onto claiming they were not important letters.
Boom! A PHOTOGRAPH of your sultan kissing the feet and hands of AMXAAR was provided.

- You tried a last ditch effort at covering this disgusting past so YOU brought up Michael Mariano and Isaaq Sultans seeking to free your retarded people, somehow your cagdheer brain thought your best way out of this situation was to attack the honourable Mariano.

Boom! A photograph of YOUR OWN SULTAN being led around London by the same Michael Mariano was provided.



You are done son. You have singlehandedly caused your intellectually-deficient clan the most damage out of anyone in the history of Snet

Your claim that Axmed Gurey, who is documented to be Habar Magadle Isaaq is actually cagdheer just goes to show your cawaanimo. You use Snet posts as your sources.

Doqonki ogaden

We wuz sultanz and shyt

But l haven't mentioned Suldan Keenadiid

[BestPlaya]

My bad cousin that makes sense. I'm just tired of Somalis and their exaggerated sense of self importance. Ajuran Sultanate is the only Somali state worth mentioning.

Waad garwaaqsatay niyoow and yes Ajuuran was the most powerful Somali dynasty bcoz it managed to unite all southern Somalis under the leadership of their powerful Garens.

The first Isaaq clan chief was Dhuxuur Baraar (1600s) then was sacked and Cabdi Ciise's son Suldan Guleed was was the first suldan of iidoor.Silimilarly,the first Gadabursi suldan was Ugaas Cali Makaahil (1600s).

This clearly shows iidoor and Gadabursi history as significant and independent clans only started post-adal wars somewhere in 1600s .

Too bad we don't have a detailed written records that we can refer to instead of arguing. I think some our people derive satisfaction from past glories, even if it is exaggerated, instead of focusing on developing and becoming great. We are behind in development than most Africans and that is a shame.

Waxaan halkan ku soo bandhigaynaa taxane taariikhiidii Ugaasyada Gadabuursiga, waxaan ka soo guurnay Buugii uu qoray Sheekh Cabdulraxmaan Sheekh Nuur Cabdullaahi. Ugaas Cali waxaa uu ahaa Ugaaskii ugu horeeyay Ugaasyada. Waxaana lagu caleemo saaray ama lagu boqray Gabilay, deeda waxaa la geeyay BAGI sidii caadadu ahayd, halkaas ayaa dharkiisii hore lagaga badalay loona xidhay dharkii boqortooyada. Ugaas Cali wuxuu Ugaasnimada qabtay kolkay taariikhdu ahayd 1607 dii taariikhda Miilaadigu, waxaana ku dhashay meesha la yidhaahdo Dhoobo kolkay taariikhdu ahayd 1575 kii Miilaadiga. Hooyadii waxaa la odhan jiray Khadiija Sheekh waxana ka soo jeeday ama ay ahayd qabiilka la yidhaahdo Aba Yoonis(Gari)

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Ugaas Cali Makahil Muse sida ay qoran dhamaan daddka kasoo jeeda gudubiirsaha waxay sheegaan inuu dhashay 1575 waxaana la caleemo saaray 1607 .Aabihii wuxuu soo gaadhay Ahmed gurey.

[Xildiiid]

Bro ,you misunderstood the word kingdom .Don't picture in your mind English or Chinese kingdoms of the past Here l mean a clan or a coalition of several clans with their own grand chief whose title was either Boqor or Garaad .

My bad cousin that makes sense. I'm just tired of Somalis and their exaggerated sense of self importance. Ajuran Sultanate is the only Somali state worth mentioning.

Waad garwaaqsatay niyoow and yes Ajuuran was the most powerful Somali dynasty bcoz it managed to unite all southern Somalis under the leadership of their powerful Garens.

The first Isaaq clan chief was Dhuxuur Baraar (1600s) then was sacked and Cabdi Ciise's son Suldan Guleed was was the first suldan of iidoor.Silimilarly,the first Gadabursi suldan was Ugaas Cali Makaahil (1600s).

This clearly shows iidoor and Gadabursi history as significant and independent clans only started post-adal wars somewhere in 1600s .

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

[Ben Dover]

History will remember Cagdheers as the most formidable clan in history who challenged and fought the colonialists.Isaaqs will always be remembered for quite the opposite

"We are your children"
"We wish for English rule"
"I say that, as a sheep quivers under the blow of a knife, we, the Ogaden, are quivering under the oppressions of the Abyssinians"



"As the monsoon wind drives the sandhills of our coast into new forms, so does this news of German evildoing drive our hearts and spears into the service of the English Government."


"The Jubaland Somali are with the English Government. Daily in our mosques we pray for the success of the English armies"


"Day is as night and night is as day with us until we hear that the English are victorious"


"Humbly we ask, why should not the Somali fight for England also?"

"We beg the Government to allow our warriors to show their loyalty"

"with the Government against the Germans, we are as one, ourselves, our warriors, our women, and our children. By God it is so. By God it is so. By God it is so."

"With all humbleness we desire to beg of the Government to allow our sons and warriors to take part in this great war against the German evildoers. They are ready. They are eager. Grant them the boon ( )."


"We humbly beg that our letter may be placed at the feet of our King and Emperor, who lives in England, in token of our loyalty and our prayers."

[BestPlaya]

My bad cousin that makes sense. I'm just tired of Somalis and their exaggerated sense of self importance. Ajuran Sultanate is the only Somali state worth mentioning.

Waad garwaaqsatay niyoow and yes Ajuuran was the most powerful Somali dynasty bcoz it managed to unite all southern Somalis under the leadership of their powerful Garens.

The first Isaaq clan chief was Dhuxuur Baraar (1600s) then was sacked and Cabdi Ciise's son Suldan Guleed was was the first suldan of iidoor.Silimilarly,the first Gadabursi suldan was Ugaas Cali Makaahil (1600s).

This clearly shows iidoor and Gadabursi history as significant and independent clans only started post-adal wars somewhere in 1600s .

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

Who was the first clan chief .why toljeclo dynasty is mystery .No known garaads or suldans besides dhuux Baraar who was forced to give the chiefdom to cabdi ciise .And remember Cabdi ciise is the father of Suldan Guleed whose some of his grandchildren lived in 1940s!!

[Ben Dover]

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

Dont mind doqonka cagdheer, he literally takes Snet posts as valid sources, he probably read this in a previous Snet discussion.

Waa ninka meesha lasoo fadhiistey Axmed Gurey waa cagdheer, wtf

[Django]

Iidoorka are getting the bigest karbash of the century.

[Ben Dover]

Iidoorka are getting the bigest karbash of the century.

Man, good on you, you feel sorry for your fellow cagdheer getting humiliated like this. But tell him to stop in private, he has caused beesha enough shame:

[Xildiiid]

Waad garwaaqsatay niyoow and yes Ajuuran was the most powerful Somali dynasty bcoz it managed to unite all southern Somalis under the leadership of their powerful Garens.

The first Isaaq clan chief was Dhuxuur Baraar (1600s) then was sacked and Cabdi Ciise's son Suldan Guleed was was the first suldan of iidoor.Silimilarly,the first Gadabursi suldan was Ugaas Cali Makaahil (1600s).

This clearly shows iidoor and Gadabursi history as significant and independent clans only started post-adal wars somewhere in 1600s .

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

Who was the first clan chief .why toljeclo dynasty is mystery .No known garaads or suldans besides dhuux Baraar who was forced to give the chiefdom to cabdi ciise .And remember Cabdi ciise is the father of Suldan Guleed whose some of his grandchildren lived in 1940s!!

I corrected your nonsense and in response you’re deflecting from your lie in order to save face.

This method has defined your humiliating attempts in this thread.

[Xildiiid]

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

Dont mind doqonka cagdheer, he literally takes Snet posts as valid sources, he probably read this in a previous Snet discussion.

Waa ninka meesha lasoo fadhiistey Axmed Gurey waa cagdheer, wtf

He’s delusional and ignorant.

[BestPlaya]

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

Who was the first clan chief .why toljeclo dynasty is mystery .No known garaads or suldans besides dhuux Baraar who was forced to give the chiefdom to cabdi ciise .And remember Cabdi ciise is the father of Suldan Guleed whose some of his grandchildren lived in 1940s!!

I corrected your nonsense and in response you’re deflecting from your lie in order to save face.

This method has defined your humiliating attempts in this thread.

somalidu waligeed ma maqal iidoor baa suldan guleed ka hor suldaan mise garaad lahaa.believe it or not,iidoor wuxuu dad noqday markuu cabdi ciise hogaanka u qabtay badhtamihii qarniga 1600s.

bal car wakaase meel kusheeg abtirsiinta saldanadii dhuux baraar,axmad gurey xuseen iyo garaad dhaaweyd cadayn miyaad haysaa.beeenbeen iyo taarikh gacan kurimis ah iska ilow .suldan guleed iyo aabihii cabdi ciise kahor iidoor waxba ma ahayn .labaduna waxay noolaayeen mar aan sii fogeyn 1650---1750

garaad dhaweyd wuxuu ahaa bartire.

[BestPlaya]

Boqor Dhuux Baraar was the last Isaaq chief of the Toljeclo dynasty before he was dethroned by a coalition led by Cidagalle hence why the grand sultan of Isaaq today, even though it’s merely symbolic, is Cidagalle.

Boqor Dhuux Baraar wasn’t the first Isaaq clan chief.

Dont mind doqonka cagdheer, he literally takes Snet posts as valid sources, he probably read this in a previous Snet discussion.

Waa ninka meesha lasoo fadhiistey Axmed Gurey waa cagdheer, wtf

He’s delusional and ignorant.

bal cilmigiina intaad kaashataan ragan meeshay sheekh iidoor kagalaan sheega

--dhuxur baraar suldaamadii ka horeeyay
--garaad dhaaweyd
--axmed gurey xuseen

[Ben Dover]

He’s delusional and ignorant.

Beyond his delusion, ignorance and obsession with Isaaq, the drooling cagdheer will completely move to a new point as soon as his previous point backfires. Absolutely no shame, no xishood, and no understanding of the basics of research and fact finding.

The dimwit is still using Snet posts as sources