The fort of Walwal and the incident that set off a chain reaction leading up to world war 2

[Ben Dover]

Marehan allied with Italy was because of anti-british feeling

Contradicted by the begging letters boon marehan sent the British.



Boon marehan children of Xiraabu Goita Theodorous admitted they were riciyad of both the Britain and MJ

[Khalid Ali]

Oh I understand this this where the anti mj resentment comes ileen marexaan had no sultanate and came under the majeerteen cismaan maxanuud kingdom in bari.

This is why afweyne hated mjs so much ileen awoowgi used to pay tribute to mj king.

Ileen marexaanky wa adoon maydhmey. When I say the natural leadera of darod is mj maxalaigu haystey

[Ben Dover]

Exactly. They were MJ's riciyad. It has never happened before that one clan completely dominated another clan like this.

[X.Playa]

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1 ... 0701452564

This is Cedric Barnes the foremost Western Pro Ogaden researcher . His field research was conducted on the Ogaden and the rest were from the British archives , despite the fact that he always present the Daarood hate of Isaaq as rational and due to British favoritism towards Isaaq ( with no evidence) he nevertheless in his various papers on the Ogadeen/Daarood SYL or greater Somalia quest states that the Daarood were always anti greater somalia , because according to the Daarood rational anything that is good for the British or sought by the British must be to the Isaaq favor.

for easier reading , just use the find and enter the term "isxaaq" in every instance the Daarood are in the opposing camp and pro Ethiopia when it comes to greater Somalia.

Also take note of Mukhtal Daahir the Ogadeen cheif and the secretary of the SYL/C in Ogaden , long before the quest for the greater Somalia , Mukhtal was pro Ethiopia and during the Italian invasion and prior to it he was pro- Ethiopia and in his opinion anything that has Isaaq name on it must be British or visa versa , despite him been through ought his career an Ethiopian lackey , his hate for Isaaq surpassed any nationalistic vision and this applied to all Daarood , be it Samatar Rooble, Faarax Xayd , Cabdiraxmaan sayd Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan and all pro Ethiopian Daarood lackeys.

Mukhtal Daahir and Micheal Mariano were in opposing sides when it came to greater Somalia, the Daarood Mukhtal chose Ethiopia and rejected Somaliweyn reasoning " it must be good for Isaaq" thus no Good for daarood.

[Voltage]

One thing I like about this forum is I love that after spending their whole lives undergoing "hebel baa yiri" from parents who spent a bitter life under the boot of a Marehan strongman, a lot of Isaaq kids have woken up to written history from 500 years in the Futuh, hundreds of years ago, 1961 Somali government documents, UNESCO reports, and all corroborations of written document.

Notice before the documentation, it was "Siad Barre wrote it". Then they saw print dates and like the three little monkeys of see nothing and hear nothing, just play dumb about facts. Stuff that would never hold up in face to face debates.

Notice even this topic, first it was refusing Adal's post and denying it. After it became quite clear with written documentation, it turned into...so now you are just praising an Italian askari?

Hell mouthaf'in yeah I am. The man's actions are a huge part of history. What did you want him to be? Michael Mariano and your so-called Sultans no one cares about and have no place in history besides just bringing tea to the British?

Adan Loow, was at first a Soldier alright (before becoming an educated and celebrated pre and post-colonial Somali leader), but clearly he was a soldier with dignity, self-respect, courage, and had individual agency by choosing to fire his shot on behalf of his people. But then again, what do Iidoor wagaash know about dignity and self-respect?

[X.Playa]

One thing I like about this forum is I love that after spending their whole lives undergoing "hebel baa yiri" from parents who spent a bitter life under the boot of a Marehan strongman, a lot of Isaaq kids have woken up to written history from 500 years in the Futuh, hundreds of years ago, 1961 Somali government documents, UNESCO reports, and all corroborations of written document.

Notice before the documentation, it was "Siad Barre wrote it". Then they saw print dates and like the three little monkeys of see nothing and hear nothing, just play dumb about facts. Stuff that would never hold up in face to face debates.

Notice even this topic, first it was refusing Adal's post and denying it. After it became quite clear with written documentation, it turned into...so now you are just praising an Italian askari?

Hell mouthaf'in yeah I am. The man's actions are a huge part of history. What did you want him to be? Michael Mariano and your so-called Sultans no one cares about and have no place in history besides just bringing tea to the British?

Adan Loow, was at first a Soldier alright (before becoming an educated and celebrated pre and post-colonial Somali leader), but clearly he was a soldier with dignity, self-respect, courage, and had individual agency by choosing to fire his shot on behalf of his people. But then again, what do Iidoor wagaash know about dignity and self-respect?

I think after years of your Daarood receiving all their "wisdom" from the prolific Afweyne anus and cooped up in southern limited cocoon of ignorance of somali history your Daarood debating Isaaq masters are learning allot. Despite this knowledge coming through a lacerating whip on your bottom , your kind is still learning , whether that knowledge will enlighten your tiny sub clan or your Daarood , is irrelevant what is relevant as far as we are concerned is to break the back of the faqash propaganda. The fruit of this massive onslaught of data is the behavior of your Daarood , no more huff and buff , now you receive your daily suppository of knowledge with few murmur..

[Voltage]

I think after years of your Daarood receiving all their "wisdom" from the prolific Afweyne anus and cooped up in southern limited cocoon of ignorance of somali history your Daarood debating Isaaq masters are learning allot. Despite this knowledge coming through a lacerating whip on your bottom , your kind is still learning , whether that knowledge will enlighten your tiny sub clan or your Daarood , is irrelevant what is relevant as far as we are concerned is to break the back of the faqash propaganda. The fruit of this massive onslaught of data is the behavior of your Daarood , no more huff and buff , now you receive your daily suppository of knowledge with few murmur..

How can someone say something while saying nothing?

Xplaya, I generally like you and at times I do feel shame for personalizing things with you (but only when you show your nasty side), but I will say that you are definitely not Bendover the foul village i.diot who is motivated by absolutely nothing but messing up every conversation with insults and the likes, but honestly even you (a lover of all things Western) is still a reer baadiye in the sense of sheer inability to accept written faces and corroborating history JUST because it disagrees with you. Adiga un bay ku taal. I would love to see a real face to face conversation on this. Then you will recognize how foolish you look to the gallery with all your tribal protestations about WRITTEN history. This is not fake oral history and wholly subjective and unsubstantiated lines oral folklore like you prize. This is third party sourced history with an objective look

[Ben Dover]

Boon marehans are so desperate, so hungry, they are actively making a mountain of the molehill that was the boon marehan Ascari serving his colonial Italian overlords. It is hilarious to see them scramble when their poor attempts backfire.

- They claimed the Somali script was "invented" by some ignoble boon. Turns out it was never invented by a single person, and the Somali man with the greatest contribution was Isaaq, the great Muse X. Ismaaciil Galal.

- They claimed some boon was the first man to fly, their own f-king sources confirmed it was actually a Hawiye man.

- They claimed Nur Ibn Mujahid was boon, turns out the only source they had was an erroneous article, they failed to cite the original Arabaic for 37 pages straight . The original Arabic made it clear he was not even Somali.

- This particular boon Voltage claimed (with a straight face) the name Xiraabu Goita Theodorous is an authentic Somali name

- They claimed their boon marehan were a big part of Futuh Al Habash. Turns out they were described as 'wavering' and 'lagging'. In fact they were the only group to not answer the Imam's call for Jihad, and only joined when the Imam descended upon them with his soldiers.

- Their leader Xiraabu Goita Theodorous became a fugitive like Afweyne . He fled the wrath of the Imam after killing a boy.

And now they are claiming this:





The subjects of MJ have absolutely no shame.

[X.Playa]

They have zero evidence or literature to substantiate their Daaroodism propaganda yet they can't face reality without their lies.

Look no further then today and the past century when it comes to raw Isaaq vs. Raw Daarood they wailed as they are wailing now. Its 2018 and Guba was 1921 a century later the same culprit are weeping and yet some devil amore visit them at night and tell them their Daarood were a mighty empire.

They would cry even now as then...that some invisible Gaalo are helping the Isaaq. Reality is they are the one who are receiving all that Gaalo spunk.

[original dervish]

Almost five pages in and none of the iidoor can disprove Adali's original post.
Xplayer is among the most deluded iidoor ever to sit across a keyboard.

He normally treats the white mans word as gospel.......unless of course it doesn't fit in with his mythical iidoor heroics.

[FarhanYare]

Xplaya, I generally like you and at times I do feel shame for personalizing things with you (but only when you show your nasty side), but I will say that you are definitely not Bendover the foul village i.diot who is motivated by absolutely nothing but messing up every conversation with insults and the likes, but honestly even you (a lover of all things Western) is still a reer baadiye in the sense of sheer inability to accept written faces and corroborating history JUST because it disagrees with you.

[X.Playa]

Some Mareexaan butler throwing a dinner plate on another Daarood Ethiopian butler and giving Italy an excuse to invade Abyssinia is not much of a history to be proud off. Written or not its still a story of Daarood butlers.

[Voltage]

Wallahi waa qosol, you have a hundred written records from Western observers describing how I went from Wardheer to Wajeer at the same time he talks about some mythical Habar Yonis going between two villages they haven't left. Like absolutely NOTHING substantiated corroborates anything he says.

Notice they do not have a SINGLE source, not a SINGLE source giving any credit to them. It is always them disputing our sources giving credit to us as if we wrote it.

For example, on the issue of Col Cali Mataan Xaashi



Somali sources:

Cali-Mataan Xaashi Cali-Cagweyn wuxuu ku dhashay Gobolkii Mudug la oran jiray ee Soomaaliya abbaaraha 1927kii. Cali Mataan Xaashi, wuxuu ahaa duuliyihii ugu horreeyay ee Jumhuuriyadii Soomaaliya.

http://tusmaaleey.blogspot.com/2013/12/ ... i-ugu.html

Accademic sources

Here is Prof Haji Mukhtar, a well known and respected Digle and Mirifle (neither Hawiye, nor Darod, nor Isaaq) professor of African History in Savannah, Georgia (His daughter Subeyda Mukhtar is currently one of the deputy Mayors of Mogadishu) writing Cali Mataan Xaashi was the first Somali man to fly in his book historical biography of Somalia;



Here it is documented that in 1960, Cali Mataan Xaashi, the first Somali man to fly, was the First Commander of the Somali air force exactly as Prof Haji Mukhtar wrote

The Ethiopian-Somali War
Tom Cooper
https://books.google.com/books?id=XUbdC ... hi&f=false

SNDF = Somali National Defense Forces (Military)
SAC = Somali Air Corps (Air force)



What do these Iidoor kids bring? Absolutely nothing...except...nothing. It's a total waste of time. I just like educating them on real history not WAA LA YIRI.

[X.Playa]

Wallahi waa qosol, you have a hundred written records from Western observers describing how I went from Wardheer to Wajeer at the same time he talks about some mythical Habar Yonis going between two villages they haven't left. Like absolutely NOTHING substantiated corroborates anything he says.

Notice they do not have a SINGLE source, not a SINGLE source giving any credit to them. It is always them disputing our sources giving credit to us as if we wrote it.

For example, on the issue of Col Cali Mataan Xaashi



Somali sources:

Cali-Mataan Xaashi Cali-Cagweyn wuxuu ku dhashay Gobolkii Mudug la oran jiray ee Soomaaliya abbaaraha 1927kii. Cali Mataan Xaashi, wuxuu ahaa duuliyihii ugu horreeyay ee Jumhuuriyadii Soomaaliya.

http://tusmaaleey.blogspot.com/2013/12/ ... i-ugu.html

Accademic sources

Here is Prof Haji Mukhtar, a well known and respected Digle and Mirifle (neither Hawiye, nor Darod, nor Isaaq) professor of African History in Savannah, Georgia (His daughter Subeyda Mukhtar is currently one of the deputy Mayors of Mogadishu) writing Cali Mataan Xaashi was the first Somali man to fly in his book historical biography of Somalia;



Here it is documented that in 1960, Cali Mataan Xaashi, the first Somali man to fly, was the First Commander of the Somali air force exactly as Prof Haji Mukhtar wrote

The Ethiopian-Somali War
Tom Cooper
https://books.google.com/books?id=XUbdC ... hi&f=false


Here the same Professor Haji Mukhtar, attesting to the fact that Shire Jama Ahmed is the father of the Somali script

What do these Iidoor kids bring? Absolutely nothing...except...nothing. It's a total waste of time. I just like educating them on real history not WAA LA YIRI.

Its meaningless reply one Boon been the first of his Boon to fly a machine. How does his anomaly adds to his collective boon anything?

Your history began with Afweyne and ended with Afweyne most Somalis associate Mareexaan with Afweyne.

This your history in two bulletins.

1- Afweyne in power 1969 Mareexaan grew a kintir imitating a dhalfo.

2- 1991 Mareexaan back to been a kintir post amputations albeit sharing the peculiar anatomy with all their Daarood.

You are a tiny tiny sub clan Farmaajo or Afweyne when it comes to clan power you are in the bottom.

[AbdiCushite]

Boons took a massive L in this thread Boon Bin Doofar