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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:59 am
Advo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:45 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:31 am Horta why are non-Somalis/Samaales even talking about talking about who has the 'purest' DNA. If you ain't Samaale, you are a Sheegaad who speaks our language and claims our identity. Go find out who your Daddies are before talking about 'Somali' DNA.
Lol

who are the non Somalis/sheegad?

Daarood claim they are not ilma samaale. That makes them none somalis. But we are Dir irir Samaale .
Speak for yourself, I and most isaaqs ain’t got nothing to do with dir or irir bullshit
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Why the fok the Teeri troll always writes 3 page essays on shyt?


Most pure Somali clan is Isaaq. Harti would join them but Harti have sections in Jubba regions foked by all kinds of Jareer.

Issa fok with Oromo and Afar. Half of their women are drilled by Oromo in Dire Dawa to the Awash valley.

Ogaden are foked by Kikuyu, Oromo and even Amhara.
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mahoka wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:14 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:59 am
Advo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:45 am

Lol

who are the non Somalis/sheegad?

Daarood claim they are not ilma samaale. That makes them none somalis. But we are Dir irir Samaale .
Speak for yourself, I and most isaaqs ain’t got nothing to do with dir or irir bullshit
Speak for your self too. Most isaaqs are not Arabs. And Yes I have something to do with Dir and Irir Samaale communities because we are Somalis .
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Are we speaking anthropologically ? then I would say Dir is the pure Somali, if we speak in terms of identity then I would say purest Somalis are from the interior, Doollo/Hawd/Gaalkacyo/Burco/Caabudwaaq. DNA of population, I would say Dir are the least pure, they mix heavily with all sorts from Jareers in Jubaland to Oromo in Kilinka.

most Somali have DNA 99% Somali but this will change rapidly in the next 10-20 years, due to relocating to bigger cities as well as coastal cities, not to mention the massive Somali diaspora that mix with Jamaicans, Chinese iyo balaayo oo dhan.
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Darood is quraish duriyda radmiga ee bani hashim.

All non darood are Niggers in my book .
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zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:55 am
Advo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:45 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:31 am Horta why are non-Somalis/Samaales even talking about talking about who has the 'purest' DNA. If you ain't Samaale, you are a Sheegaad who speaks our language and claims our identity. Go find out who your Daddies are before talking about 'Somali' DNA.
Lol

who are the non Somalis/sheegad?
Pretty self explanatory, if you ain't from the House of Samaale, you are an Cajam. :Shrug:

You really believe some mythical dude name somale existed lmao

I thought u were one of the saved ones by jamacatul DNA.



The Yusuf,

Qabiil exist but not in the way we were taught, it’s pretty much a confederacy and not what our parents believe atleast the originaters. No dude name hawiye, Darood, issaq, Dir, Somali Ram-mag (lol) ever existed meaning those figures did not give birth to Somalida oo nool maantay.
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Advo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:40 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:55 am
Advo wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:45 am

Lol

who are the non Somalis/sheegad?
Pretty self explanatory, if you ain't from the House of Samaale, you are an Cajam. :Shrug:

You really believe some mythical dude name somale existed lmao

I thought u were one of the saved ones by jamacatul DNA.



The Yusuf,

Qabiil exist but not in the way we were taught, it’s pretty much a confederacy and not what our parents believe atleast the originaters. No dude name hawiye, Darood, issaq, Dir, Somali Ram-mag (lol) ever existed meaning those figures did not give birth to Somalida oo nool maantay.
I never stated there was a dude named Samaale, I actually think the Samaale identity stems from a shared Xeer, religion and occupation in the distant past. Nonetheless, there is no denying the the inextricable connection between Somali and Samaale. Others joined the Samaales with the progress of time but certain clans are the building blocks of Samaale. From the Degoodi/Tuff Gardheere Samaales in NFD to the Ciise that settle around Awash river valley, we are all united by an identification with Samaale.

As for Qabils being a confederacy, I would argue that there is an element of confederacy but science is proving that there is some truth to Qabil identities whereby certain E-V32 and Haplogroup T Qabil lineages appear to have arisen in the last millennium or two at the most. It is more complicated than belonging to the same haplogroup, hence why y-full tests are necessary to determine how closely related people who belong to the same Qabil and haplogroup are. Y-full will also shed light on how adoptions have taken place among Somali Qabils.
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Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:54 am Are we speaking anthropologically ? then I would say Dir is the pure Somali, if we speak in terms of identity then I would say purest Somalis are from the interior, Doollo/Hawd/Gaalkacyo/Burco/Caabudwaaq. DNA of population, I would say Dir are the least pure, they mix heavily with all sorts from Jareers in Jubaland to Oromo in Kilinka.

most Somali have DNA 99% Somali but this will change rapidly in the next 10-20 years, due to relocating to bigger cities as well as coastal cities, not to mention the massive Somali diaspora that mix with Jamaicans, Chinese iyo balaayo oo dhan.
All Somalis that live in the Oromo frontier possess genetic influences from the neighbouring Oromos, especially the ones who expanded by force. For instance, the Waamo Ogaden and the Guuri MX would breed with captured Boran and Wardey concubines.

Furthermore, no Dirs in Jubbaland openly breed with Bantus. As their former slaves, the Bantu identify with the clan that owned them. Hence, why you get Geledi Jareer, Wacdan Jareer, Biimaal Jareer, Moblin Mudulood Jareer. There might be individuals that get jungle fever, but there is no tradition of marrying former slaves among the clans that historically owned slaves in the Jubba and Shabelle regions.

Lastly, Somali identity is patriarchal, you are who your father is. Dirs are not any purer by ancestry than other Samaales. If you belong to the Samaale Family, you are Somali by default irrespective of who your father humped.
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zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:12 am
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:54 am Are we speaking anthropologically ? then I would say Dir is the pure Somali, if we speak in terms of identity then I would say purest Somalis are from the interior, Doollo/Hawd/Gaalkacyo/Burco/Caabudwaaq. DNA of population, I would say Dir are the least pure, they mix heavily with all sorts from Jareers in Jubaland to Oromo in Kilinka.

most Somali have DNA 99% Somali but this will change rapidly in the next 10-20 years, due to relocating to bigger cities as well as coastal cities, not to mention the massive Somali diaspora that mix with Jamaicans, Chinese iyo balaayo oo dhan.
All Somalis that live in the Oromo frontier possess genetic influences from the neighbouring Oromos, especially the ones who expanded by force. For instance, the Waamo Ogaden and the Guuri MX would breed with captured Boran and Wardey concubines.

Furthermore, no Dirs in Jubbaland openly breed with Bantus. As their former slaves, the Bantu identify with the clan that owned them. Hence, why you get Geledi Jareer, Wacdan Jareer, Biimaal Jareer, Moblin Mudulood Jareer. There might be individuals that get jungle fever, but there is no tradition of marrying former slaves among the clans that historically owned slaves in the Jubba and Shabelle regions.

Lastly, Somali identity is patriarchal, you are who your father is. Dirs are not any purer by ancestry than other Samaales. If you belong to the Samaale Family, you are Somali by default irrespective of who your father humped.
I don't believe in this Samaale crap no offence but Dir are original Somalis no one can take that away from them, they live all over the place for that reason.

But you right Rer Hassan Mareexaan live as far into Oromia as Negeyle and have for centuries fought with Borana Oromos in Borana as well there is some mixing that happened there.

However now Reer Hassan intermarry more with Reer Ahmed weyd and Rer Degodiya as well as other Somalis and Mareexaan clans.
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Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:34 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:12 am
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:54 am Are we speaking anthropologically ? then I would say Dir is the pure Somali, if we speak in terms of identity then I would say purest Somalis are from the interior, Doollo/Hawd/Gaalkacyo/Burco/Caabudwaaq. DNA of population, I would say Dir are the least pure, they mix heavily with all sorts from Jareers in Jubaland to Oromo in Kilinka.

most Somali have DNA 99% Somali but this will change rapidly in the next 10-20 years, due to relocating to bigger cities as well as coastal cities, not to mention the massive Somali diaspora that mix with Jamaicans, Chinese iyo balaayo oo dhan.
All Somalis that live in the Oromo frontier possess genetic influences from the neighbouring Oromos, especially the ones who expanded by force. For instance, the Waamo Ogaden and the Guuri MX would breed with captured Boran and Wardey concubines.

Furthermore, no Dirs in Jubbaland openly breed with Bantus. As their former slaves, the Bantu identify with the clan that owned them. Hence, why you get Geledi Jareer, Wacdan Jareer, Biimaal Jareer, Moblin Mudulood Jareer. There might be individuals that get jungle fever, but there is no tradition of marrying former slaves among the clans that historically owned slaves in the Jubba and Shabelle regions.

Lastly, Somali identity is patriarchal, you are who your father is. Dirs are not any purer by ancestry than other Samaales. If you belong to the Samaale Family, you are Somali by default irrespective of who your father humped.
I don't believe in this Samaale crap no offence but Dir are original Somalis no one can take that away from them, they live all over the place for that reason.
Adali, it is not for you to believe or disbelieve, you are Darood sxb. To each his own identity. :up:
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zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:45 am
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:34 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:12 am

All Somalis that live in the Oromo frontier possess genetic influences from the neighbouring Oromos, especially the ones who expanded by force. For instance, the Waamo Ogaden and the Guuri MX would breed with captured Boran and Wardey concubines.

Furthermore, no Dirs in Jubbaland openly breed with Bantus. As their former slaves, the Bantu identify with the clan that owned them. Hence, why you get Geledi Jareer, Wacdan Jareer, Biimaal Jareer, Moblin Mudulood Jareer. There might be individuals that get jungle fever, but there is no tradition of marrying former slaves among the clans that historically owned slaves in the Jubba and Shabelle regions.

Lastly, Somali identity is patriarchal, you are who your father is. Dirs are not any purer by ancestry than other Samaales. If you belong to the Samaale Family, you are Somali by default irrespective of who your father humped.
I don't believe in this Samaale crap no offence but Dir are original Somalis no one can take that away from them, they live all over the place for that reason.
Adali, it is not for you to believe or disbelieve, you are Darood sxb. To each his own identity. :up:
according to this Samale false history I am mariixaan of Hawiya soma ahan , marka of course it has something to do with me, I am half Samale half jeberti dee. :lol:
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Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:55 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:45 am
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:34 am

I don't believe in this Samaale crap no offence but Dir are original Somalis no one can take that away from them, they live all over the place for that reason.
Adali, it is not for you to believe or disbelieve, you are Darood sxb. To each his own identity. :up:
according to this Samale false history I am mariixaan of Hawiya soma ahan , marka of course it has something to do with me, I am half Samale half jeberti dee. :lol:
If you are Bah Xawaadle Reer Diini, then you are Half Mayle Samaale, not Hawiye. :lol:

You do know that the Adaris, Argobba, Silte, Muslim Tigrinyas etc and other Semitic speaking Muslims were referred to as Jabarti. It looks like the Jabarti identity is probably older than the Somali identity and probably developed after Islam came to Ardul Xabasha. Your cousins have got some beautiful women. :diddy:
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Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:34 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:12 am
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:54 am Are we speaking anthropologically ? then I would say Dir is the pure Somali, if we speak in terms of identity then I would say purest Somalis are from the interior, Doollo/Hawd/Gaalkacyo/Burco/Caabudwaaq. DNA of population, I would say Dir are the least pure, they mix heavily with all sorts from Jareers in Jubaland to Oromo in Kilinka.

most Somali have DNA 99% Somali but this will change rapidly in the next 10-20 years, due to relocating to bigger cities as well as coastal cities, not to mention the massive Somali diaspora that mix with Jamaicans, Chinese iyo balaayo oo dhan.
All Somalis that live in the Oromo frontier possess genetic influences from the neighbouring Oromos, especially the ones who expanded by force. For instance, the Waamo Ogaden and the Guuri MX would breed with captured Boran and Wardey concubines.

Furthermore, no Dirs in Jubbaland openly breed with Bantus. As their former slaves, the Bantu identify with the clan that owned them. Hence, why you get Geledi Jareer, Wacdan Jareer, Biimaal Jareer, Moblin Mudulood Jareer. There might be individuals that get jungle fever, but there is no tradition of marrying former slaves among the clans that historically owned slaves in the Jubba and Shabelle regions.

Lastly, Somali identity is patriarchal, you are who your father is. Dirs are not any purer by ancestry than other Samaales. If you belong to the Samaale Family, you are Somali by default irrespective of who your father humped.
I don't believe in this Samaale crap no offence but Dir are original Somalis no one can take that away from them, they live all over the place for that reason.

But you right Rer Hassan Mareexaan live as far into Oromia as Negeyle and have for centuries fought with Borana Oromos in Borana as well there is some mixing that happened there.

However now Reer Hassan intermarry more with Reer Ahmed weyd and Rer Degodiya as well as other Somalis and Mareexaan clans.
there is reer osman marehan who live with maalinguur reer cabdule in fiiq, they left cabduwaq 200 years ago after theywere atatcked by some reer diini, they are part and parcel maliinguur moahmed subeer, i met one in kismayo,
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Tbh Ciise mix with Canfar and Hararis in Harar.
Ogaden generally don't mix but you'll find some who marry Oromo ect.
Isaaq id say are pure.
Warsangali are not pure since some Warsans even lost their language and now claim Canfar.
Majeerteen are pure due to being Bordered by Sacad , Harti Kale, Mareexan, Ogaden, and Isaaq in the Hawd.
So I'd say Harti (Ex. Warsans) , Isaaq , Samaroon , Ogaden, Madarkicis
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TeeriReturns wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:13 am
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:34 am
zumaale wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:12 am

All Somalis that live in the Oromo frontier possess genetic influences from the neighbouring Oromos, especially the ones who expanded by force. For instance, the Waamo Ogaden and the Guuri MX would breed with captured Boran and Wardey concubines.

Furthermore, no Dirs in Jubbaland openly breed with Bantus. As their former slaves, the Bantu identify with the clan that owned them. Hence, why you get Geledi Jareer, Wacdan Jareer, Biimaal Jareer, Moblin Mudulood Jareer. There might be individuals that get jungle fever, but there is no tradition of marrying former slaves among the clans that historically owned slaves in the Jubba and Shabelle regions.

Lastly, Somali identity is patriarchal, you are who your father is. Dirs are not any purer by ancestry than other Samaales. If you belong to the Samaale Family, you are Somali by default irrespective of who your father humped.
I don't believe in this Samaale crap no offence but Dir are original Somalis no one can take that away from them, they live all over the place for that reason.

But you right Rer Hassan Mareexaan live as far into Oromia as Negeyle and have for centuries fought with Borana Oromos in Borana as well there is some mixing that happened there.

However now Reer Hassan intermarry more with Reer Ahmed weyd and Rer Degodiya as well as other Somalis and Mareexaan clans.
there is reer osman marehan who live with maalinguur reer cabdule in fiiq, they left cabduwaq 200 years ago after theywere atatcked by some reer diini, they are part and parcel maliinguur moahmed subeer, i met one in kismayo,
My cousin bought land from a Rer Cismaan in Kismaayo a while back, their name keeps coming up when it comes to Kismaayo, never hear of Rer Cismaan from Kilinka but I know they live there.

Dude Caabudwaaq historically is settled by Rer Siyaad Xussen and Rer Dalal, today its Mareexaan metropolis you will even find Rer Axmed in Caabudwaaq.
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