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ZubeirAwal wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:12 pm Gadiid yunus nuux ismaacil lived during the 1500s-1600s he probably was a Mujahid that was so great the Marehan claimed his name.
most marexaans dont know reer gadid(odayaasha ba og) but they know about mamaasame and reer nuur gedobirsi.
ciedagale produced more fagash then any somali clan infact they had the only anti snm jamhad headed by none other then hajji waraabe :D our archbishop goita voltage will be suprissed about my info but Herr Eaglehawk knows alot of shit thats uncommon to most somalis.
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I think we should change their name from dofar to danyeer now, look how I.M.Lewis narrated that darod was descended from a tree looool, he was dwelling in a tree like the monkey he is for quite some time until the good heart dir people came along .

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what the world has come to when O.O combo (Ogaden.Oromo) talk about other clan's lineages?.

from the same book of I.M.Lewis he is showing oromo families assimilated into ogaden.

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look at how many oromo names they have in their subclans, and these filth OO have the audacity of looking into other noble somali clans and talk about their lineages. :pacspit:
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ramzy2277 is properly one of the dumbest snet members.

he lacks character waxu qoro wax kama fahmi
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Typhoon wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:49 pm reer gadid habar awal, reer mataan ciedagale, reer nuur gedobirsi and masaame cisse are brothers :D (maamasame ba owoow u ah labada kale)

guess what they all have in common? 8-) did they not fight against snm...ding dong!

why do marexaan always go to ciedagele xafaad in hargeisa 8-)
abdi warabe :up:

ciyaal ba tahin somali ma taqanin.

hajji goita Theodorous :up: if you notice he has characteristics of barre hiiraale(khalid ali remembers the double dealing of barre and his constant run around in kismaayo)

we are the only somali clan that have a claim on the ethiopian solomonic throne, thats why ethiopians always arm the marexaan, just look at history
is there someone else reading this lunatic's gebrish, or is it only me?!

did he just claim that his boon are from solomonic dynasty? u know to claim that throne u only have to belong to that family by blood, like from father to son kind of thing?

so ur ilko yar not only made adal kingdom but also are part of the other side the axsum kingdom.....looool

are u willing to unreveal the real identity of the lineage of xirabu ben guibta ben theodoros ben adam..?! was he an undercover impeded deep into the imam's army ?!

i wont be surprised from the same guy who changed the name of his uncle and put the american president lincoln last name in his lineage.
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I believe Typhoon is being sarcastic. You on the other hand take everything at face value.

You also very angry man. Chillax. Do not stress urself too much
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ramzy2277 wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:29 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:49 pm reer gadid habar awal, reer mataan ciedagale, reer nuur gedobirsi and masaame cisse are brothers :D (maamasame ba owoow u ah labada kale)

guess what they all have in common? 8-) did they not fight against snm...ding dong!

why do marexaan always go to ciedagele xafaad in hargeisa 8-)
abdi warabe :up:

ciyaal ba tahin somali ma taqanin.

hajji goita Theodorous :up: if you notice he has characteristics of barre hiiraale(khalid ali remembers the double dealing of barre and his constant run around in kismaayo)

we are the only somali clan that have a claim on the ethiopian solomonic throne, thats why ethiopians always arm the marexaan, just look at history
is there someone else reading this lunatic's gebrish, or is it only me?!

did he just claim that his boon are from solomonic dynasty? u know to claim that throne u only have to belong to that family by blood, like from father to son kind of thing?

so ur ilko yar not only made adal kingdom but also are part of the other side the axsum kingdom.....looool

are u willing to unreveal the real identity of the lineage of xirabu ben guibta ben theodoros ben adam..?! was he an undercover impeded deep into the imam's army ?!

i wont be surprised from the same guy who changed the name of his uncle and put the american president lincoln last name in his lineage.
chill bro why are you so angry ? walahi somali oo dhan inee ahmad guray sheegtan baa ila fiican, why are you being an extremist, as long as you do not claim he is arab or non-Somali you are in my good books, guul habar magaadle.
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ZubeirAwal wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:43 pm Since we successfully established that Imam Axmed Gurey Xuseen was Habar Magaadle, which of the following could he have possibly be?
Zubeir awal
Arap
Ayub
Cidagalle
Habr Yonis?

I'd like to think he was HA
No xishood wallahi :russ:
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d/p
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:58 pm
balwarama wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:53 am :wtf: We gave them many condescending names like Dabacayuun, Iidoor, Kabadhe Iidoor! Why are the Iidoors today beating their chests and acting like they can challenge Daarood.

They are running away from Somalia because of Daarood and now they acting like they can talk to us as equals. Cajiib :demonic:
Lol magaca Idoor comes from when cagdheer were selling their daughters to Nuux Ismaaciil merchants in exchange for a bag of dates and cotton shiid ah. Don't get uppity little cagdheer nigger. Idoor is like the word cracker, it comes from a time when we owned you like xoolo.
Iidoor is your ancient name before you adopted your mythical banu Hashim daddy.

Prove.

There are Darood sub clans who go by the name BAH IIDOOR .This clans probably started in 1600 to 1700 centuries.

Bah iidoor -Ree isaaq ,OG
Bah iidoor -Warsangali ,Harti

The above clearly shows iidoor is not a recent nickname but ancient name of northern Dir clans probably pre-dates the name isaaq.

About the iidoor merchants and brokers ,their name was kabadhe iidoor.Ogaden were traditionally rich in livestock while the iidoor were regional traders who came to the hinterlands after being granted protection by a prominent OG sub clans
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ramzy2277 wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:22 am I think we should change their name from dofar to danyeer now, look how I.M.Lewis narrated that darod was descended from a tree looool, he was dwelling in a tree like the monkey he is for quite some time until the good heart dir people came along .

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what the world has come to when O.O combo (Ogaden.Oromo) talk about other clan's lineages?.

from the same book of I.M.Lewis he is showing oromo families assimilated into ogaden.

Image

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look at how many oromo names they have in their subclans, and these filth OO have the audacity of looking into other noble somali clans and talk about their lineages.

Ramzy, You said there is no iidoor sub clans who are called Rambad and Jailah despite Richard Burton mentioning them in his famous book.

Now,how dare you quote someone who can't differentiate Bah Gari and Gari :lol: .It very obvious that his Ogaden clan breakdown is utterly wrong and ridiculous.

It is Geri who inhabit between Jijiga and Herer.This clan is not OG or Kuumade .they're simply Darood .You too naive not to discern the simple obvious error of Mr Lewis .Bah Gari is the OG clan and has got nothing to do with Harar or Jaarso.

About Waaq clan names,It was unique to ancient Somalis and can be found in the overwhelming majority of Somali clans.Oromo or other cushitic groups may call God waaq but you can't find it in their both current and ancient names.Hawiye has the largest number of Waaq names in their clan system,followed by Darood and lastly Dir.Few examples:

Hawiye
-Biddewaaq
-Aarwaaq
-Naxariiswaaq
-Dintawaaq
-Ciqwaaq
-Ogliyewaaq
-Isxiijiwaaq
-Cabdwaaq
-Doorwaaq

Darood
Gudoonwaaq
Jidwaaq
Cabdwaaq
Siinwaaq

Dir
-Raamwaaq
-Sinjiwaaq


Waaq simply meant Allah to ancient Somalis.People weren't arabized as they are today .God has different interpretations according to different faiths that exist in the world of today so is the name waaq which had its own different interpretations.

Aarwaaq of Abgaal has Xasan and Abukar /obokor in his lineage back to Hawiye.this clearly shows he wasn't from a pagan background.similarly, The Cabdwaaq of Ogaden had Cabdalle and Ree Maxamad as his first cousins and also his sons had Islamic names such as Mahad Alle ,Suleiman ,Cali etc.The Gumarwaaq of Marehan was was the Son of Xasan ,his uncle was isaaq and his brother was Yuusuf .All these examples refute the notion which says those names or the people named were of pagan origin.


Now ,my dear friend ,do you think Jailah,Rambad,Samburu,GarxajisToljecle are Arabic names or even the people named were of Arab/Qureish origin? What about the strong objection of modern DNA science ?


I think you told me you or some your close relatives got EV32 and you know the overwhelming majority of Garxajis who took the test are T ,so do you still believe y'all descended from common Arab ancestor??
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Interesting these waaq names can't be seen in Isaaq abtiris, shows the other clans are much more older than ours, for example my lineage

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2***
3**
4***
5**
6***
7 Nur
8 Ismaacil
9.Kuul
10.Gadiid
11.Yunus
12.Nuux
13.ismaacil
14.Jibril
15.Xuseen
16.Abokor
17.Isaxaaq
18.Sacad
19.Musa
20.Zubeir
21.Abdulraxman
22.Sheikh ishaaq
23. Sheikh Axmed
24. Sheikh Muxammad.
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1.mine
2.....
3.......
4........
5.........
6............
7.Ugaas Nuur- Cubudhiye
8.Ugaas Warfaa-Aar
9.Ugaas Magan
10.Warfaa
11.Ugaas Xirsi
12.Ugaas Khalaf-Madoobe
13.Xasan
14.Khalaf-Guun
15.Yusuf
16.Maxamed-Roob
17.Cabdille
18.Muse
19.Maxamed
20. Zubair
21.Baahale
22.Siciid
23.Musa
24.Yuusuf-Kaante
25.Tagaalwaaq
26.Baarwaaq
27.Miyirwalaal
28. Abdurahman-Ogaadeen
29.Absame
30.Kuumade
31.Kablalax
32.Daarood
33.Ismaaciil
34. Jeberti

P.S: in my family reer Warfaa (the 2nd) you can find people that count only 5 to him and some that count up to 10 including their names like me as well as some that count 13 or 14, all contemporaries!
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According to legend Ogaden's mother was one of Isaak's granddaughters!
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balwarama wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:33 pm 1.mine
2.....
3.......
4........
5.........
6............
7.Ugaas Nuur- Cubudhiye
8.Ugaas Warfaa-Aar
9.Ugaas Magan
10.Warfaa
11.Ugaas Xirsi
12.Ugaas Khalaf-Madoobe
13.Xasan
14.Khalaf-Guun
15.Yusuf
16.Maxamed-Roob
17.Cabdille
18.Muse
19.Maxamed
20. Zubair
21.Baahale
22.Siciid
23.Musa
24.Yuusuf-Kaante
25.Tagaalwaaq
26.Baarwaaq
27.Miyirwalaal
28. Abdurahman-Ogaadeen
29.Absame
30.Kuumade
31.Kablalax
32.Daarood
33.Ismaaciil
34. Jeberti

P.S: in my family reer Warfaa (the 2nd) you can find people that count only 5 to him and some that count up to 10 including their names like me as well as some that count 13 or 14, all contemporaries!
Wtf kind of names man, the Waqa Sky-God worshipping doofaars :lol: :lol:
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I don't know it needs to be studied. May be their mother's were Gallas. Remember, according to legend Daarood arrived all by himself! :demonic:
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