Winners and Losers of the civil war

[SuldaanMaplesyrup]

Somalia was much better under Marehan leadership than it is today. Joke of the world.

When did Farmaajo stop being Marehan?

[Ben Dover]

Somalia was much better under Marehan leadership than it is today. Joke of the world.

When did Farmaajo stop being Marehan?

They know poor Faramaggeo is a helpless hostage

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Isaaq have been karbashing darood since we existed. From chasing the mad mullah away to chasing afwayne away. We got bombed by Somali airforce at the time. Which you darood nazi still support. We had no weapons apart from those we stole from the government. You lot had all the weapons in the world. Yet we managed to chase you out of our lands reclaim our independence and have the best army in the region. We karbashed your cousins in tukuraq not once but twice. They claimed we are still at war but they have not come back since. I think they learned a good lesson. Your leader can’t go anywhere without amisom and he wants to talk to me, I rather speak to the amisom general instead.

Togdheer

Your people tried to expand after the Darawish were defeated. Bah Geri, Makaahiil , Dhulbahanate, and other Marehan sub clans like Reer Kooshin shrank in size during the wars.
Cowards.
And today your clan does not pass the Hawd while we Marehan have had two main branches for over a century and now have a third newest branch (Reer Waamo).

USC captured Gedo after getting hold of the state weapons. The SNF was on the outskirts of Xamar in 1992 when it had state weapons! Even after your SL declared independence

AUN Sayidka:

Naar-quutayaal iyo kufraad, Nebiyo mooddeene
Naarta waxaa idinku guri, nibirayaashiiye
Nasaarada waxaw taabacdeen, waa najuusnimo e

Naagow tihiin ferenjigii, noloshka dheeraaye
Nacalluhu kuwuu fuulay baad, daba nushlaysaane
Naamuuskiin wuxuu jabay markaad, nacabka raacdeene

[Khalid Ali]

Sayid siigeyste was a homosexual
We took gar adag in the 1800s
We took Caynabi in 1923..
We took daroor in 1870

Eventually we.fed Sayid siigeyste to the caruusa gallas
We freed casha dhuux subclan from Sayid siigeyste
sayid siigeyste was the biggest daarood coward he fled the last hagoogane raid

[Salaxbaashe]

The civil war is still not over but right now in terms of political power hawiye and darood have played their hands and hawiye are the stronger. Darood have scratched and clawed their way even bringing foreign troops into the country to have a foothold but they are still second fiddle to hawiye. Isaaq still haven’t played their cards. People look at ictiraaf as the be all and end all but it’s not it’s one possible avenue. We have built the best military amoungst the Somalis since the civil war we have the most money and we have created links with foreign countries and organisations to have some credibility. In negotiations with Somalia we could easily get 60 seats and a north south power sharing agreement and dominate Somalia politically. We can also create dir nationalism and bring forward the likes of ahmed samatar who will work in our interests like dahir riyaale. And most importantly we have good relations with the power house of the south which is hawiye and we could form political alliances very easily with them.

At the end of the day things work through military power money and geopolitics. You have to remember the only reason any foreign countries care about Somalia is because of its strategic positioning and we control the stratigically positioned land. The berbera corridor will make us the New York to xamars California and the rest of the country will stay as the villages they are like the Midwest of America. The only two metropolitan areas of Somalia are hargeisa and mogadishu.

On the other hand you never know abdirahman Abdi Shakur could become president and just give somaliland recognition as spite

Personally I would prefer unity as an individual but I won’t go against the voice of the majority of my people.

[Khalid Ali]

Hawiye has won from.galkacyo
Majeerteen is the only one with a mamuul

Hawiye won jabarti lost wa arin fiican

[Togdeer]

Winners:
1. Isaaq as a whole
2. Abgaal
3. MJ

Losers:
1. Mareehan
2. HG
3. Dhulbahante

kkkkkk Kulaha HG are losers of the Civil war, defining some one a loser while having a state of its own called ''Galmudug HG state'', while having mps and other political stakes in Hiirshabelle (5 mps, and a whole district owned by HG), and Koonfur Galbeed (12 mps, and mayors both in Baraawe and Marke and SNA HQ Shalambood in HG's Hands) and Banaadir 7 Districts under HG.

If thats called being losers of the civil war, then indeed for HG losing is a bless.

Since the death of general aidid HG have become irrelevant. Let’s be honest HG are not as mighty and feared as they used to be. And they have been victims in politics thanks to the Abgaal MJ alliance to keep HG away. HG are not united like they were in the 90s everyone seems to be split into sub sub clans like sacad, Saleeban and caydh.
There is alshabab present in galmadug region places like harerdheere. You guys have achieved galmudug I give you that but the politics there are so divided and the place is very fragile politically. Galmudug doesn’t lead by example.
HG went from kings of the south at general aidids time to not being allowed to become president of Somalia. Only a moron sees gaining little irrelevant seats as a win like you.

[Khalid Ali]

The only clan daarood fears is habargedir
Habargedir has destroyed every jabarti. Abgaal are more welcoming but habargedir dhiig kulul bakujira

[Togdeer]

Isaaq have been karbashing darood since we existed. From chasing the mad mullah away to chasing afwayne away. We got bombed by Somali airforce at the time. Which you darood nazi still support. We had no weapons apart from those we stole from the government. You lot had all the weapons in the world. Yet we managed to chase you out of our lands reclaim our independence and have the best army in the region. We karbashed your cousins in tukuraq not once but twice. They claimed we are still at war but they have not come back since. I think they learned a good lesson. Your leader can’t go anywhere without amisom and he wants to talk to me, I rather speak to the amisom general instead.

Togdheer

Your people tried to expand after the Darawish were defeated. Bah Geri, Makaahiil , Dhulbahanate, and other Marehan sub clans like Reer Kooshin shrank in size during the wars.
Cowards.
And today your clan does not pass the Hawd while we Marehan have had two main branches for over a century and now have a third newest branch (Reer Waamo).

USC captured Gedo after getting hold of the state weapons. The SNF was on the outskirts of Xamar in 1992 when it had state weapons! Even after your SL declared independence

AUN Sayidka:

Naar-quutayaal iyo kufraad, Nebiyo mooddeene
Naarta waxaa idinku guri, nibirayaashiiye
Nasaarada waxaw taabacdeen, waa najuusnimo e

Naagow tihiin ferenjigii, noloshka dheeraaye
Nacalluhu kuwuu fuulay baad, daba nushlaysaane
Naamuuskiin wuxuu jabay markaad, nacabka raacdeene

Allow us the excuses darood boy. Let me put it to you darood have never won a war against isaaq. Isaaq have never lost a war to darood, we also never lost an inch of land to darood. Yet we gained so much land from darood this is all facts.

Dervish wars - isaaq won
Kacaan darood Vs SNM - SNM won
Latest war tukuraq - isaaq won twice.

Your all talk no bark. That’s why merehan are the biggest losers of the civil war.

[Salaxbaashe]

Isaaq have been karbashing darood since we existed. From chasing the mad mullah away to chasing afwayne away. We got bombed by Somali airforce at the time. Which you darood nazi still support. We had no weapons apart from those we stole from the government. You lot had all the weapons in the world. Yet we managed to chase you out of our lands reclaim our independence and have the best army in the region. We karbashed your cousins in tukuraq not once but twice. They claimed we are still at war but they have not come back since. I think they learned a good lesson. Your leader can’t go anywhere without amisom and he wants to talk to me, I rather speak to the amisom general instead.

Togdheer

Your people tried to expand after the Darawish were defeated. Bah Geri, Makaahiil , Dhulbahanate, and other Marehan sub clans like Reer Kooshin shrank in size during the wars.
Cowards.
And today your clan does not pass the Hawd while we Marehan have had two main branches for over a century and now have a third newest branch (Reer Waamo).

USC captured Gedo after getting hold of the state weapons. The SNF was on the outskirts of Xamar in 1992 when it had state weapons! Even after your SL declared independence

AUN Sayidka:

Naar-quutayaal iyo kufraad, Nebiyo mooddeene
Naarta waxaa idinku guri, nibirayaashiiye
Nasaarada waxaw taabacdeen, waa najuusnimo e

Naagow tihiin ferenjigii, noloshka dheeraaye
Nacalluhu kuwuu fuulay baad, daba nushlaysaane
Naamuuskiin wuxuu jabay markaad, nacabka raacdeene

It’s so funny how clans like marexaan and makahil of Ogaden try to attach themselves to the dervish. Nigga all 5 British expeditions are well recorded many clans were involved including somali bantu however marexaan and makahil had no invlovement in any of the 5 expeditions. All the most wanted lists with their clans are in the British archives. Imagine people like sultan nur amaan and ibrahim boqol who are well documented as leading many of the battles during the expeditions were marexaan or guys like haji sudi who was the most wanted dervish after the mad Mullah they might have even tried to claim it more than dhulbahantes . Get out of here with your tribal radio mogadishu propaganda history.

[metamorphosis]

Lol everyone is a loser. Why else would you guys be posting from europe and north america?

[Typhoon]

funny how people still mention marexaan, wasnt that clan supposed to be decimated in 1991

its about prime real estate you ignorant fools.

united states is a super power due their, 2 seas, fertile land and abundant water resources.

vast majority of somalis have not made progress in terms of tangible assets, except for abgaal,, raxanwayn marexaan and ogadeen who have acquired valuable land threw conquest, just like the anglo saxons of australia and north america

somali rebel groups at one point controlled all of somalia and lost it and now they want convince us about their succes in their provincial desert states that have no economic value passed a point of development
northen somalia is like carpathian mountains states, that why no great state could emerge there or great culture, the south alwayes produces great city states kingdoms and thats why 90 percent of the somali civil war took place in the south.
the south is like the north european plain and china coastal core, there is a reason why vast majority of the somali race migrated to the south.

by defacto southern clans are winners before the civil war and our succes are interlinked
northen clans live on international aid and use regional states as begging bowl while souther clans use the state as balance of power strategic leverage.

northen clans have more incommon with ethiopians and their poverty trap and ethiopians use the state to begg the world, while southern somali only has to weight before great powers knock on our door, thats why the english somaliland as adens butchers house, beyond meat there is absolutely no natural resources or human capital, 30 years of peace and mogadishu is still the most developed city in somalia

[Individual]

funny how people still mention marexaan, wasnt that clan supposed to be decimated in 1991

its about prime real estate you ignorant fools.

united states is a super power due their, 2 seas, fertile land and abundant water resources.

vast majority of somalis have not made progress in terms of tangible assets, except for abgaal,, raxanwayn marexaan and ogadeen who have acquired valuable land threw conquest, just like the anglo saxons of australia and north america

somali rebel groups at one point controlled all of somalia and lost it and now they want convince us about their succes in their provincial desert states that have no economic value passed a point of development
northen somalia is like carpathian mountains states, that why no great state could emerge there or great culture, the south alwayes produces great city states kingdoms and thats why 90 percent of the somali civil war took place in the south.
the south is like the north european plain and china coastal core, there is a reason why vast majority of the somali race migrated to the south.

by defacto southern clans are winners before the civil war and our succes are interlinked
northen clans live on international aid and use regional states as begging bowl while souther clans use the state as balance of power strategic leverage.

northen clans have more incommon with ethiopians and their poverty trap and ethiopians use the state to begg the world, while southern somali only has to weight before great powers knock on our door, thats why the english somaliland as adens butchers house, beyond meat there is absolutely no natural resources or human capital, 30 years of peace and mogadishu is still the most developed city in somalia

So true ustaadh


Lol, have you seen those confused mirqaan idoors arguing in the other thread of Mogadishu port saying that its small and irrelevant, while they claim that only Berbera port and Djibouti port matter in terms of economical output, NEWS CHECK for those fantasy dwellers, Mogadishu Port Taxes has been declared By the SFG and IMF that the Economical output of the Ports Taxes is over $10.000.000/ 10 Million dollar!

https://www.caasimada.net/dhaqaalaha-bi ... shaaciyey/

[Kismaayo21]

The entire Isaaq clans achievements = Puntland bas

The entire isaaq clans land mass is less than Puntland.

All other Darood lands are extra. Kismaayo waxaa isku haysto waa darood.

I would be ashamed of comparing Darood to Abgaal or HG Or HA. Laakiin you guys have already admitted defeat and shamelessly 5 grown men are comparing their Isaaq clans with sub clans like MJ Abgaal iyo HG.

In Galmudug we marexaans own 2.5 Deegmo out of 6. The 3.5 is shared with all HG. Our power sharing is exactly like that. And we are a subclan of darood.

Clearly we are the winners even though aan is heeysano dexdheena. Gaas and Madoobe and Farmaajo can not sit together it wouldn’t be fair on the other Somalis , but separately they still all shit on Isaaqs