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SuperLander wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:30 am cheers :up:
Darood Ismaciils are not so bad after all yaah.
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Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:42 pm
Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.

Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
Somalinimo ragii sameeyey wa gobta isaaq. It was somaliland that raised the blue flag first, then brought it to xamar. Isaaq were front line fighters in 77 war against Ethiopia. We sacrificed everything we had for somalinimo. In return we got bullets and got bombed by the government. Now there is no such thing as somalinimo every clan is out for their own interests.
Bullshit.
When cigal was in Somalia govt.I dont knwo premier or ministry of foreign affairs he was spearheading the forfeiting of the somalis in NFD and the Ogaden.
Godane was in power and yet having had massive influnece in the south he reduced it to mere war zone while he siphoned large sums of money he illicitly got from 'taxes'.This money was taken to SL through dahabshil and we all know the Godane family status today they are among the wealthiest.Who knows how much shares they own in Dahabshil or SL telecommunications.
Also Silanyo was in Somalias govt how come iidoor have a blanket hate on Darood regardless of being affiliated to the former regime aka MSB govt while those in power in SL have always been faqash serving MSB.

When C majid was in power in the somali region he used most of his resources,energy and time to try to marginalise Ogaden at all costs.He failed.
Then SL tried all its best to capture ONLF fighters and handinh them over to Meles Zenawi.They made it a custom to mistreat ogaden businessmen in Hargeisa or Berbera by confisicating their merchandise and later jailing them for being ONLF.

Who is majorly responsible for the bombs in Xamar?which remittance company is used by AS to pay for the culprits that detonate explosives in Xamar? Dhiigshil.
So enough of Iidoor crocodile tears.
If tommorrow Ina cagjar is kicked out Iidoor will be celebrating and will be kissing the @ss of the new guy they replace him with.
Its well known SL was complicit in assisting Illey who would arrest ONLF sympathisers in Hargeisa or talked shit about him.My aunty's husband was arrested in hargeisa when he spoke shit about iley.He ended serving 5 years and was recently released when iley was removed.
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Why do we embrace every man the Ethiopians pick for us like Abdi Iley
Cant we pick our own heros hey dont get me wrong he is a good pick on the part of Abiya but he looks the right choice good luck to him and I hope he shines as he shown so far
Unity for all sonalis we must pull together those of you who are part of Ethiopia be united as one ethnic somal or else you would be ruled and subjugated forever.
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I class ina Cagjar as being a motivational speaker nothing more.
What tangible changes has he made?
He wasnt even able to reign on Amhara thugs as they brought Jigjiga into stand still he was mere al laughing stock.I mean he couldnt lift a finger all he begged was calmnes what for? Its not like they were peacefully protesting but they showed atmost disgust for the somalis in particular with valour and bravery.How could he accept this nonsense and truely if he was not a puppet how come the EDF sided with this thugs?wasnt he supposed to ran the Kilil and bring order?
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I think most of you are missing the point.

A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.

Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?

Nacasnimada iska dhafa.

If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?

I doubt it.

No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.

Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.

Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.

Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.

So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.

Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.

Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
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Django wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:35 pm
Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:42 pm
Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.

Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
Somalinimo ragii sameeyey wa gobta isaaq. It was somaliland that raised the blue flag first, then brought it to xamar. Isaaq were front line fighters in 77 war against Ethiopia. We sacrificed everything we had for somalinimo. In return we got bullets and got bombed by the government. Now there is no such thing as somalinimo every clan is out for their own interests.
Bullshit.
When cigal was in Somalia govt.I dont knwo premier or ministry of foreign affairs he was spearheading the forfeiting of the somalis in NFD and the Ogaden.
Godane was in power and yet having had massive influnece in the south he reduced it to mere war zone while he siphoned large sums of money he illicitly got from 'taxes'.This money was taken to SL through dahabshil and we all know the Godane family status today they are among the wealthiest.Who knows how much shares they own in Dahabshil or SL telecommunications.
Also Silanyo was in Somalias govt how come iidoor have a blanket hate on Darood regardless of being affiliated to the former regime aka MSB govt while those in power in SL have always been faqash serving MSB.

When C majid was in power in the somali region he used most of his resources,energy and time to try to marginalise Ogaden at all costs.He failed.
Then SL tried all its best to capture ONLF fighters and handinh them over to Meles Zenawi.They made it a custom to mistreat ogaden businessmen in Hargeisa or Berbera by confisicating their merchandise and later jailing them for being ONLF.

Who is majorly responsible for the bombs in Xamar?which remittance company is used by AS to pay for the culprits that detonate explosives in Xamar? Dhiigshil.
So enough of Iidoor crocodile tears.
If tommorrow Ina cagjar is kicked out Iidoor will be celebrating and will be kissing the @ss of the new guy they replace him with.
Its well known SL was complicit in assisting Illey who would arrest ONLF sympathisers in Hargeisa or talked shit about him.My aunty's husband was arrested in hargeisa when he spoke shit about iley.He ended serving 5 years and was recently released when iley was removed.
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AwRastaale wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm I think most of you are missing the point.

A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.

Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?

Nacasnimada iska dhafa.

If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?

I doubt it.

No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.

Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.

Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.

Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.

So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.

Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.

Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
We are all up for a strong unified Somalis, powerful and prosperous.

That’s the dream that’s becoming a reality inshallah
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Kismaayo21 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:16 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm I think most of you are missing the point.

A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.

Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?

Nacasnimada iska dhafa.

If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?

I doubt it.

No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.

Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.

Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.

Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.

So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.

Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.

Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
We are all up for a strong unified Somalis, powerful and prosperous.

That’s the dream that’s becoming a reality inshallah
dont listen tho this loser, his biggest fear is ogadeniya independence thats why he is promoting war between oromo/amxara somali war

abiye is on the right track he is not there yet but we welcome his moves, he is ticking alot of my boxes

onlf should not disarm and free and fair election should be held with in 2 years.

ogadeniya is our buffer state eventually i hope to see union between ogadeeniya, djibouti and awdal province :up: unless

the biggest obstacle facing ogadeeniya is 2/3 ethiopian parliament vote everything ells is archivable
abiye ahmed needs us more then ever

i believe ogadeniya will be free in the next 10 years, mark my word
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Typhoon wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:31 pm
Kismaayo21 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:16 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm I think most of you are missing the point.

A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.

Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?

Nacasnimada iska dhafa.

If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?

I doubt it.

No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.

Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.

Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.

Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.

So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.

Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.

Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
We are all up for a strong unified Somalis, powerful and prosperous.

That’s the dream that’s becoming a reality inshallah
dont listen tho this loser, his biggest fear is ogadeniya independence thats why he is promoting war between oromo/amxara somali war

abiye is on the right track he is not there yet but we welcome his moves, he is ticking alot of my boxes

onlf should not disarm and free and fair election should be held with in 2 years.

ogadeniya is our buffer state eventually i hope to see union between ogadeeniya, djibouti and awdal province :up: unless

the biggest obstacle facing ogadeeniya is 2/3 ethiopian parliament vote everything ells is archivable
abiye ahmed needs us more then ever

i believe ogadeniya will be free in the next 10 years, mark my word
My bro, I agree to have a free and fully autonomous Somali region would be a HUGEEE win for all Somalis regardless of clan orientation.

If I only had two options too choose from to call that region either “Ethiopia” or “Ogaden”, I would overwhelmingly choose to call it Ogaden without a shred of a doubt.

However if I was free to choose a name for that region, I’d call it something that all Somalis in that region can relate too. Its true that Ogaden are the single biggest tribe in that region, but the other Somalis combined outnumber the Ogaden. So it wouldn’t be fair to the other Somalis broski.

I acknowledge and fully respect ONLFs military struggle however they were not successful in even liberating one village in its 50 plus years of existence. They have not contributed to the current peace or political changes in the region. They are irrelevant to ordinary somalis. A WSLF would have so much backing it would’ve freed that area many years ago. Peace would’ve come too Somalia much sooner, as we always unite when their is a external threat.
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What happend to the so called onlf tplf talks promised by afewerqi admiral cismaan and ina mahdi onlf i doubt there is something coming forward. I believe ina cagjar
Is doing very good so far he is showing political maturity give the man some time yaan lagadegdegin. Ethiopia needs to remain together. Oromos are now in charge a somali prime minister will come one way or the other
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Aw-raasta, you get me wrong, i'm not opposition of Cagjar but a supporter. The guy listens the concerns of the people unlike his predecessor. As far as Issa and OGs are concerned, no one cared about Abdi Iley's arrest as people supported him in fear. The current head of Liyu-police had been in prison by Iley, and many OGs had been in exile such as Ibraahim dheere (my cousin) who's now adviser of Cagjar, Cali Shucaac, and his son, The ONLF officals etc. The Somalis are forced to unite as reality of Oromo land-expansion looms now.
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Django wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:19 pm I class ina Cagjar as being a motivational speaker nothing more.
What tangible changes has he made?
He wasnt even able to reign on Amhara thugs as they brought Jigjiga into stand still he was mere al laughing stock.I mean he couldnt lift a finger all he begged was calmnes what for? Its not like they were peacefully protesting but they showed atmost disgust for the somalis in particular with valour and bravery.How could he accept this nonsense and truely if he was not a puppet how come the EDF sided with this thugs?wasnt he supposed to ran the Kilil and bring order?
Django, Cagjar replaced the federal army with the Liyu-police for peace-keeping (putting Amharas in their place)
Ministerial order, not to employ anyone without work-permit (priority for locals)
Fired the corrupt Tigre admin in Jigjiga university (used to take bribes)
Employing the locals (started already in customs) the rest soon will follow
Bring the regional headquarters of telecom and banks in Jigjiga ongoing
What he can't haste is the local land disputes between subclans which needs more careful approach, rather than that he's doing good, and best of all he listens.
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zidane88 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:02 am Aw-raasta, you get me wrong, i'm not opposition of Cagjar but a supporter. The guy listens the concerns of the people unlike his predecessor. As far as Issa and OGs are concerned, no one cared about Abdi Iley's arrest as people supported him in fear. The current head of Liyu-police had been in prison by Iley, and many OGs had been in exile such as Ibraahim dheere (my cousin) who's now adviser of Cagjar, Cali Shucaac, and his son, The ONLF officals etc. The Somalis are forced to unite as reality of Oromo land-expansion looms now.
Exactly my point. You very much agreed with what I have said. I was opposed to Abdi iley and his guulwade camps having experienced his jahilnimo administration at first hand myself. They didn't do any harm to me but tried to arrest me simply because I came from overseas but their Tigrai superior laughed at them. It was a shock to me.

Let's move from the past. That's all I am saying.
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zidane88 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:16 am
Django wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:19 pm I class ina Cagjar as being a motivational speaker nothing more.
What tangible changes has he made?
He wasnt even able to reign on Amhara thugs as they brought Jigjiga into stand still he was mere al laughing stock.I mean he couldnt lift a finger all he begged was calmnes what for? Its not like they were peacefully protesting but they showed atmost disgust for the somalis in particular with valour and bravery.How could he accept this nonsense and truely if he was not a puppet how come the EDF sided with this thugs?wasnt he supposed to ran the Kilil and bring order?
Django, Cagjar replaced the federal army with the Liyu-police for peace-keeping (putting Amharas in their place)
Ministerial order, not to employ anyone without work-permit (priority for locals)
Fired the corrupt Tigre admin in Jigjiga university (used to take bribes)
Employing the locals (started already in customs) the rest soon will follow
Bring the regional headquarters of telecom and banks in Jigjiga ongoing
What he can't haste is the local land disputes between subclans which needs more careful approach, rather than that he's doing good, and best of all he listens.
You forgot to add he started a beef btw Ugas Koshin and reer Amadhin.So far there is one casualty.

He took away an Ambulance from Adan Kheyr and gabe it to Sheikhal without remorse.
The Oromo killing somalis is not a border despute.You see tons of vigilantess with machetes on a killing spree in town centres torching any building they see.Its always Oromos organising it.If Iley was punished for Oromo /Somali conflicts which Oromo official todate has been prosecuted? Non
So still Cagjar is more of a motivational speaker buyinh time for Abye to galvanate power.Then he will be replaced by another Iley who would be helping Abye to settle Oromos.in Somali Kilil.
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