None of you saw this coming
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Re: None of you saw this coming
Awwrastale,
Naming a few elites who sold their deen for dunya doesn't represent the over 26 million Muslim Oromo of today. You making takfir of even one Muslim makes you a kafir, pagan, whatever you accused your brother of, forget about you making takfir of millions of Muslim's whom you never met, much less examined to see if their deen was intact.
But of course, what should one expect from a desperate tigrayan hybrid who is angry especially lately due to the arrests of some big tplf dogs.
It's evident you're mad and wanting to help tplf distract and weaken the present government because it's cracking down on them, which most Somalis would love to see, despite their border disagreements with us oromo.
Why would a Somali be so passionate and angry at a time when tplf is weakening on a daily basis, little by little,? You are trying so hard to incite a few Somalis against the oromo, whose interests does that serve?
Hmmm. Not to mention that you have yet to make a post about the arrests, and you rarely comment on such issues, and if you do, you exaggerate in your so called hatred for tplf, to try and throw people off. But you can only fool some of the people, you can't fool us all, sir.
Quoting an incomplete journal post, that without a doubt can not say it represents the over 26 million Muslim oromos. It may represent those the author of the journal encountered, which is maybe a few thousand, 100,000 being the very most, which once again, cannot represent the other 25,900,000+ Muslim oromo.
Naming a few elites who sold their deen for dunya doesn't represent the over 26 million Muslim Oromo of today. You making takfir of even one Muslim makes you a kafir, pagan, whatever you accused your brother of, forget about you making takfir of millions of Muslim's whom you never met, much less examined to see if their deen was intact.
But of course, what should one expect from a desperate tigrayan hybrid who is angry especially lately due to the arrests of some big tplf dogs.
It's evident you're mad and wanting to help tplf distract and weaken the present government because it's cracking down on them, which most Somalis would love to see, despite their border disagreements with us oromo.
Why would a Somali be so passionate and angry at a time when tplf is weakening on a daily basis, little by little,? You are trying so hard to incite a few Somalis against the oromo, whose interests does that serve?
Hmmm. Not to mention that you have yet to make a post about the arrests, and you rarely comment on such issues, and if you do, you exaggerate in your so called hatred for tplf, to try and throw people off. But you can only fool some of the people, you can't fool us all, sir.
Quoting an incomplete journal post, that without a doubt can not say it represents the over 26 million Muslim oromos. It may represent those the author of the journal encountered, which is maybe a few thousand, 100,000 being the very most, which once again, cannot represent the other 25,900,000+ Muslim oromo.
Re: None of you saw this coming
Btw ireecha takes place in bishoftu, that's not afran qallo land, it's mostly tuulama oromo land.
It's southeast of the capital and is central oromia not eastern oromia. At least have your facts right when you insult us.
And 4 million oromo go there for ireecha, most are from all over oromia and from the locality, afran qallo are probably a minority there.
And not all are Muslim's, all religions participate, Muslim's may even be a minority, because they only tend to celebrate eid al adha and eid al fitr.
You want us to focus on a nonexistent threat, the amhara, to give your tplf bosses a break, I get it.
Too bad, we won't fight the amhara, but will make Ethiopia a better place for oromos and others.
It's southeast of the capital and is central oromia not eastern oromia. At least have your facts right when you insult us.
And 4 million oromo go there for ireecha, most are from all over oromia and from the locality, afran qallo are probably a minority there.
And not all are Muslim's, all religions participate, Muslim's may even be a minority, because they only tend to celebrate eid al adha and eid al fitr.
You want us to focus on a nonexistent threat, the amhara, to give your tplf bosses a break, I get it.
Too bad, we won't fight the amhara, but will make Ethiopia a better place for oromos and others.
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Re: None of you saw this coming
Gallachis,
Where did I say Irreecha takes place in Hararghe or on Afran Qallo land? It's clear English is still giving you some troubles.
I have provided picture of Afran Qallo women taking part in the pagan Irreecha festival. I am aware it takes in Bishoftu and between the two of us I have actually been to both Nazret and Bishoftu as a kid
I know you can't say the same.
As you may or may not know; the Waaqist belief cannot be fulfilled without all the Gallas dipping their legs in the spiritual experience in the so called five odaas; Odaa Nabee (in central Oromia), Odaa Bisil (in western Oromia), Odaa Bulluq (in north-western Oromia), Odaa Roobaa (in south-eastern Oromia) and Odaa Bultum (in eastern Oromia).
The spirit will not come.
That's that.
The rest of your gibberish is something that needs time and its own cause. The Gallas may not see the Amhara threat but certainly the Amhara see the need to eliminate Galla threat especially their claim to their Addis Ababa (ancient Barara) and the constant cry and call to destroy Menelik's larger than life statue
So far Abiy is meeting their need and like their Ras Gobana they will cheer him on. They will just rewrite history and put him down as Amhara PM.
Finally where did you get the figure that there's 25,900,000+ "Muslim" Oromo? I will invite other Oromo to say something about this. Even themselves they will tell you that Oromo is split in the very center on religions but the powerful elite remain the non-Muslims and the few who make it will always abandon Islam to get Amhara approvals. Ask Abiy. Abiy is not Muslim but a Protestant (Pente, which most Western Oromo are especially Wellega).
I hope you're not trying to say Galla population is 50-65 million.

Where did I say Irreecha takes place in Hararghe or on Afran Qallo land? It's clear English is still giving you some troubles.
I have provided picture of Afran Qallo women taking part in the pagan Irreecha festival. I am aware it takes in Bishoftu and between the two of us I have actually been to both Nazret and Bishoftu as a kid

As you may or may not know; the Waaqist belief cannot be fulfilled without all the Gallas dipping their legs in the spiritual experience in the so called five odaas; Odaa Nabee (in central Oromia), Odaa Bisil (in western Oromia), Odaa Bulluq (in north-western Oromia), Odaa Roobaa (in south-eastern Oromia) and Odaa Bultum (in eastern Oromia).
The spirit will not come.
That's that.
The rest of your gibberish is something that needs time and its own cause. The Gallas may not see the Amhara threat but certainly the Amhara see the need to eliminate Galla threat especially their claim to their Addis Ababa (ancient Barara) and the constant cry and call to destroy Menelik's larger than life statue

So far Abiy is meeting their need and like their Ras Gobana they will cheer him on. They will just rewrite history and put him down as Amhara PM.
Finally where did you get the figure that there's 25,900,000+ "Muslim" Oromo? I will invite other Oromo to say something about this. Even themselves they will tell you that Oromo is split in the very center on religions but the powerful elite remain the non-Muslims and the few who make it will always abandon Islam to get Amhara approvals. Ask Abiy. Abiy is not Muslim but a Protestant (Pente, which most Western Oromo are especially Wellega).
I hope you're not trying to say Galla population is 50-65 million.

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Re: None of you saw this coming
Awwrastale,
What makes those women afran qallo then, that clothing isn't exclusively afran qallos cultural clothing, so where's your proof. Please provide proof that those ladies are afran qallo and if they are, it still doesn't mean they represent the majority of afran qallo.
Yes I know you want oromo to focus more on a nonexistent threat, rather than to focus on today's threat. I get it, you repeat the same thing over and over and always change the subject when tplfs weakness is brought up. It's easy to see what you are, simply he reading between the lines.
The amhara aren't denying anyone their rights today or recently, and that's what makes them not a threat.
It's like worrying about a million different potential scenarios, it's pointless. Just a distraction from the current and recent affairs and issues.
As Muslim's we are taught to be practical and to focus on what issues effect us now, and propose solutions, as opposed to focusing on what could, or may happen.
You are claiming to speak on behalf of the amhara, more than actual amhara do, how is that not ironic and pathetic?
Let them speak for themselves. I'm sure they can articulate their own interests without you.
We can work out disagreements with amhara and Somalis and even peaceful tigrayans, but sorry, can't do that with your beloved tplf sir.
What makes those women afran qallo then, that clothing isn't exclusively afran qallos cultural clothing, so where's your proof. Please provide proof that those ladies are afran qallo and if they are, it still doesn't mean they represent the majority of afran qallo.
Yes I know you want oromo to focus more on a nonexistent threat, rather than to focus on today's threat. I get it, you repeat the same thing over and over and always change the subject when tplfs weakness is brought up. It's easy to see what you are, simply he reading between the lines.
The amhara aren't denying anyone their rights today or recently, and that's what makes them not a threat.
It's like worrying about a million different potential scenarios, it's pointless. Just a distraction from the current and recent affairs and issues.
As Muslim's we are taught to be practical and to focus on what issues effect us now, and propose solutions, as opposed to focusing on what could, or may happen.
You are claiming to speak on behalf of the amhara, more than actual amhara do, how is that not ironic and pathetic?
Let them speak for themselves. I'm sure they can articulate their own interests without you.
We can work out disagreements with amhara and Somalis and even peaceful tigrayans, but sorry, can't do that with your beloved tplf sir.
Re: None of you saw this coming
Voltage wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:59 am I don't understand why Wachis is being called pagan/kaffir under the guise of superficial ethnic hatred. So what if the entire Oromo nation is not Muslim? If I find a single Chinese Muslim, then that guy is my Muslim brother and no less Muslim than I. Let alone the Oromo whom are 1/2 to 2/3 Muslim.
With that said, I would take Wachis over the Amxaar Awrastaale anyday of the week with his imperial Habesh flag. Wachis displays Islam etiquette and behavior more than most people here. He has morals, is composed, dignified, and respectful even in xenophobic topics where Oromophobia was displayed by some ignorant kids on here.
Wachis I salute you brother![]()
Thanks brother. I don't need to get as emotional and angry as the so called isaaq guy. I know most Somalis are good people, I used to live among them for years, same masjid, shared food, I blended in, even, very few knew I was not Somali, lol.
The same guy who used to curse me and insult me anytime I talked about unity of Somalis, but today when tplf is being weakened, and farmajo and abiy have made peace, further isolating tplf, he wants to unite Somalis. And he doesn't want to unite Somalis to form a strong economy, and feed your people and more, his goal and desire is to use Somalis to fight oromo.
How is not obvious whose interests he serves sir?
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Re: None of you saw this coming
Keep telling us that all is well in Waaq's paradise. We know what's going on and what is to come.
I will see you on the streets once again but this time with the Amhara cracking the whip on the Gallas and unlike the Tigrais, the Amhara has plenty of soldiers in Addis Ababa just as they have shown you when you tried to paint their city your OLF/OPDO flags and were left with a bloody nose.
Gallas are very fake and big time snakes. They wear the Muslim shirt when they need to beg Muslims, Christian shirt when Amhara has the bread. They are known for that shape-shifting culture.
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Re: None of you saw this coming
The return of Amharas is excellent news for Somaliland. Tigrayans and especially Oromos are no help to us since they are not for Ethiopiawinet and therefore not reliable against the evil Soomaaliweyn ideology.
Only Amharas are truly patriots so it’s time advocates of SL independence started smiling
Only Amharas are truly patriots so it’s time advocates of SL independence started smiling
Re: None of you saw this coming
Aw-raasta being Gadhxajis
Waxaynu odhan jidhnay Iidoorku waa Gadhxajis iyo in lagu daray.
Welcome Bro. As far as Ethiopia is concerned, the Amhara muscle-flexing is underway with the blessing of Abiy. After the so-called election in 2 years time we shall see the big change, dominant Amhara with their OPDO poodle-pet, the first casualties would be OLF, and ONLF, mark my word. and that would be the end of Federalism and the begining of civil war.


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Re: None of you saw this coming
what is wrong with Waaq, we Somalis have history with Waaq, and its not bad thing, obviously oromo some have preserved it, others have defiled it and changed it to something else contaminated by Habesha, just like their language, culture, genetics etc
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Re: None of you saw this coming
zidane88 wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:03 am Aw-raasta being GadhxajisWaxaynu odhan jidhnay Iidoorku waa Gadhxajis iyo in lagu daray.
Welcome Bro. As far as Ethiopia is concerned, the Amhara muscle-flexing is underway with the blessing of Abiy. After the so-called election in 2 years time we shall see the big change, dominant Amhara with their OPDO poodle-pet, the first casualties would be OLF, and ONLF, mark my word. and that would be the end of Federalism and the begining of civil war.

It's going to be interesting. The writing is on the wall.
Re: None of you saw this coming
guys, the amhara are not a threat until we see them trying to dismantle federalism, until then, the biggest threat is 1) poverty and tplf.
it's as simple as that. talking about what could happen, while not focusing on what is happening and what has happened recently is not very smart, to say the least, and benefits the tplf and their loyal goons, because it takes the attention off of them.
we have no issue with amhara reaffirming their identity and the huge role some of them played in making ethiopia.
unlike some of you, we are not scared, insecure, or overly paranoid. we know we can handle ourselves if push comes to shove.
if oromia police and militias and soldiers, as shown recently, is uniting with OLF soldiers daily, and building trust among them, and refused to fight them, then that means we have what it takes to unite all of our people and counteract any threat, be it amhara elites who are too weak and few in number to fight even the tuulama and maccaa together/or individually, or the tigrayan elites.
it's as simple as that. talking about what could happen, while not focusing on what is happening and what has happened recently is not very smart, to say the least, and benefits the tplf and their loyal goons, because it takes the attention off of them.
we have no issue with amhara reaffirming their identity and the huge role some of them played in making ethiopia.
unlike some of you, we are not scared, insecure, or overly paranoid. we know we can handle ourselves if push comes to shove.
if oromia police and militias and soldiers, as shown recently, is uniting with OLF soldiers daily, and building trust among them, and refused to fight them, then that means we have what it takes to unite all of our people and counteract any threat, be it amhara elites who are too weak and few in number to fight even the tuulama and maccaa together/or individually, or the tigrayan elites.
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Re: None of you saw this coming
My clan and the Borana in Libaan are good friends and neighbors. We even teach them Islam and they are becoming Muslims manshallah. Oromos and Somalis are blood brothers and should view the Habesha as existential threats to our security and Gadaa/Xeer. I like this new alliance. We need to stop the border fighting so we can build more trust. Amxaaro is a dog that can't be trusted.
That is my two cents
That is my two cents

Re: None of you saw this coming
AwRastaale wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:29 pmzidane88 wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:03 am Aw-raasta being GadhxajisWaxaynu odhan jidhnay Iidoorku waa Gadhxajis iyo in lagu daray.
Welcome Bro. As far as Ethiopia is concerned, the Amhara muscle-flexing is underway with the blessing of Abiy. After the so-called election in 2 years time we shall see the big change, dominant Amhara with their OPDO poodle-pet, the first casualties would be OLF, and ONLF, mark my word. and that would be the end of Federalism and the begining of civil war.
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It's going to be interesting. The writing is on the wall.

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Re: None of you saw this coming
Amhara Tigray both South Arabian invaders who will never allow Oromo leadershipWaachis wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:34 pm guys, the amhara are not a threat until we see them trying to dismantle federalism, until then, the biggest threat is 1) poverty and tplf.
it's as simple as that. talking about what could happen, while not focusing on what is happening and what has happened recently is not very smart, to say the least, and benefits the tplf and their loyal goons, because it takes the attention off of them.
we have no issue with amhara reaffirming their identity and the huge role some of them played in making ethiopia.
unlike some of you, we are not scared, insecure, or overly paranoid. we know we can handle ourselves if push comes to shove.
if oromia police and militias and soldiers, as shown recently, is uniting with OLF soldiers daily, and building trust among them, and refused to fight them, then that means we have what it takes to unite all of our people and counteract any threat, be it amhara elites who are too weak and few in number to fight even the tuulama and maccaa together/or individually, or the tigrayan elites.
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They can't have their cake and eat it too.AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:06 pmAmhara Tigray both South Arabian invaders who will never allow Oromo leadershipWaachis wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:34 pm guys, the amhara are not a threat until we see them trying to dismantle federalism, until then, the biggest threat is 1) poverty and tplf.
it's as simple as that. talking about what could happen, while not focusing on what is happening and what has happened recently is not very smart, to say the least, and benefits the tplf and their loyal goons, because it takes the attention off of them.
we have no issue with amhara reaffirming their identity and the huge role some of them played in making ethiopia.
unlike some of you, we are not scared, insecure, or overly paranoid. we know we can handle ourselves if push comes to shove.
if oromia police and militias and soldiers, as shown recently, is uniting with OLF soldiers daily, and building trust among them, and refused to fight them, then that means we have what it takes to unite all of our people and counteract any threat, be it amhara elites who are too weak and few in number to fight even the tuulama and maccaa together/or individually, or the tigrayan elites.
Meaning, they, or anyone, can not deny the backbone of Ethiopia, the right or chance to rule too. It's our country too. Next we should have an Afar, Sidama, Somali, or a southern Ethiopian, PM.
The thing is, tplf has made enemies all over the horn, so they're desperate and cornered, and cornered dogs are dangerous.
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