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If war were to break out in Somaliland, who would be allies?

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Would it be Jeegaanta vs the rest?
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Dumb thing to say. War is not the solution. It will just drive more Somalis apart.

We need to unify the nomads for a common agenda beyond same language, same religion, same culture. We have to bring forward ideological politics and social benefits under the union.

No doubt Garhajis, Samaroon and Harti are biggest losers under the isolation projection. If they didn't see any gains in 27 years, how many more years do they need to know you can't change lives by not changing the ictiraaf Street?

Think about it. I want you guys to think and not be afraid of changes.

War is not beneficial.

We need to bring forward solutions that better the lives of people. We need education, universities, taking those in Mogadishu such as Banadir University to the north. We need more youth in Mogadishu taking part in the peace process. More regions registering their youth for Somali National Army and similar services.



Right now the Konfuuris are registering their sons and they going places such as training and mentoring under Turks. By the time you realise the isolation Ictiraaf Street is dead, these guys are already Generals, Major Generals, and so forth while you will start with zero.

Now is the time to build those grassroot programmes and start sending your youth to the capital.

The northern communities have to have a common goal and unity front.



No body recognise whatever Muse and co are keeping themselves busy with. They just register any old dude from his immediate tribe as "general" and even "Major General" despite not attending any recognised and endorsed military academia.

It's time you sent your youth to proper education faculties with global recognition.

I used to play along their fadhi ku dirir games but I long sent my relatives to Mogadishu :mrgreen:
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Say what you want about s/l, and I'm one of it's biggest critics, but it's not the south Al Hamdu lilah! :D :sland: :up:
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AwRastaale wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:47 am Dumb thing to say. War is not the solution. It will just drive more Somalis apart.

We need to unify the nomads for a common agenda beyond same language, same religion, same culture. We have to bring forward ideological politics and social benefits under the union.

No doubt Garhajis, Samaroon and Harti are biggest losers under the isolation projection. If they didn't see any gains in 27 years, how many more years do they need to know you can't change lives by not changing the ictiraaf Street?

Think about it. I want you guys to think and not be afraid of changes.

War is not beneficial.

We need to bring forward solutions that better the lives of people. We need education, universities, taking those in Mogadishu such as Banadir University to the north. We need more youth in Mogadishu taking part in the peace process. More regions registering their youth for Somali National Army and similar services.



Right now the Konfuuris are registering their sons and they going places such as training and mentoring under Turks. By the time you realise the isolation Ictiraaf Street is dead, these guys are already Generals, Major Generals, and so forth while you will start with zero.

Now is the time to build those grassroot programmes and start sending your youth to the capital.

The northern communities have to have a common goal and unity front.



No body recognise whatever Muse and co are keeping themselves busy with. They just register any old dude from his immediate tribe as "general" and even "Major General" despite not attending any recognised and endorsed military academia.

It's time you sent your youth to proper education faculties with global recognition.

I used to play along their fadhi ku dirir games but I long sent my relatives to Mogadishu :mrgreen:
Mogadishu and Somalia use centralism, federal members states get the bread crumbs. The vast majority of money is spent in banadir. That’s why hawiye don’t want to give away the capital even though Mogadishu is holding the rest of the country back. All the facilities are built in Mogadishu even though it’s not safe. If you or your clan decides to join Somalia today you would be worse off. I admit somaliland is a bit central also, but majority of the time somaliland government does give its fair share of funds to each region or city. But we have corrupt individuals who pocket a fair amount of that money.
As for education although banadir university is good, everyone knows the best Somali uni is camuud. You just want to give up your sovereignty for a bit of bread crumbs like the other Dir waqooyi. At least get your fair share don’t be a nacas.
Takale meeshan an u ordaysid ee Mogadishu meel rajo leh ma aha. Meel aminah ma aha. Meel nolali taalana ma aha. These people you think that like you in Mogadishu, they hate you more than anything, they will call you dir waqooyi, show you no respect. If you like it so much go live there for a bit and share your experience.
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Togdeer wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:56 am These people you think that like you in Mogadishu, they hate you more than anything, they will call you dir waqooyi, show you no respect. If you like it so much go live there for a bit and share your experience.

None of the major Xamar mooryaans border your folks why would they hate you? lol
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Tbh as a sacad muse I don’t care. I will demand more seats in the parliament take the capital to my city and have my own maamul gobaleed of awdal plus waqooyi galbeed. It’s always strange when isaaqs have a problem with hawiye they’re too invested in somaliland vs somalia. I have beef with a qabil called darood and even then we are still brothers.
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nine wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:12 am
Togdeer wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:56 am These people you think that like you in Mogadishu, they hate you more than anything, they will call you dir waqooyi, show you no respect. If you like it so much go live there for a bit and share your experience.

None of the major Xamar mooryaans border your folks why would they hate you? lol
Walahi they hate us. My uncle used to live in Mogadishu before the war broke it, he had businesses there, he was married to a D&M lady not far from xamar. So when the war broke out he stayed behind with him family. Unfortunately moryaans robbed him and he had to start again. Anyways one of sons had enough of being marginalised so he decided to leave and head for somaliland which he had never seen.
He came to burco at the end, got shown a lot of love from his tol and was treated with respect. He told us how bad live was for him and his family in Mogadishu. He told us how they use to call him Dir waqooyi, tell him go back to your land, bully them. Sometimes even beat them up. He never went back.

On the other hand thousands of reer konfur live in somaliland. Hawiye, Somali Bantu and D&M. Nobody bothers them and they live in peace.
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Togdeer wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:33 am
nine wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:12 am
Togdeer wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:56 am These people you think that like you in Mogadishu, they hate you more than anything, they will call you dir waqooyi, show you no respect. If you like it so much go live there for a bit and share your experience.

None of the major Xamar mooryaans border your folks why would they hate you? lol
Walahi they hate us. My uncle used to live in Mogadishu before the war broke it, he had businesses there, he was married to a D&M lady not far from xamar. So when the war broke out he stayed behind with him family. Unfortunately moryaans robbed him and he had to start again. Anyways one of sons had enough of being marginalised so he decided to leave and head for somaliland which he had never seen.
He came to burco at the end, got shown a lot of love from his tol and was treated with respect. He told us how bad live was for him and his family in Mogadishu. He told us how they use to call him Dir waqooyi, tell him go back to your land, bully them. Sometimes even beat them up. He never went back.

On the other hand thousands of reer konfur live in somaliland. Hawiye, Somali Bantu and D&M. Nobody bothers them and they live in peace.
Southern Somalis don't hate Isaaq they're barely aware of your existence.

And what's wrong in calling you Dir? if even SNet members such TheYusuf claim Dir.
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AwRastaale wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:47 am Dumb thing to say. War is not the solution. It will just drive more Somalis apart.

We need to unify the nomads for a common agenda beyond same language, same religion, same culture. We have to bring forward ideological politics and social benefits under the union.

No doubt Garhajis, Samaroon and Harti are biggest losers under the isolation projection. If they didn't see any gains in 27 years, how many more years do they need to know you can't change lives by not changing the ictiraaf Street?

Think about it. I want you guys to think and not be afraid of changes.

War is not beneficial.

We need to bring forward solutions that better the lives of people. We need education, universities, taking those in Mogadishu such as Banadir University to the north. We need more youth in Mogadishu taking part in the peace process. More regions registering their youth for Somali National Army and similar services.



Right now the Konfuuris are registering their sons and they going places such as training and mentoring under Turks. By the time you realise the isolation Ictiraaf Street is dead, these guys are already Generals, Major Generals, and so forth while you will start with zero.

Now is the time to build those grassroot programmes and start sending your youth to the capital.

The northern communities have to have a common goal and unity front.



No body recognise whatever Muse and co are keeping themselves busy with. They just register any old dude from his immediate tribe as "general" and even "Major General" despite not attending any recognised and endorsed military academia.

It's time you sent your youth to proper education faculties with global recognition.

I used to play along their fadhi ku dirir games but I long sent my relatives to Mogadishu :mrgreen:
I like this new AwRastale. Keep it up sxb. :up:
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Sharmarke91 wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:17 am
Togdeer wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:33 am
nine wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:12 am


None of the major Xamar mooryaans border your folks why would they hate you? lol
Walahi they hate us. My uncle used to live in Mogadishu before the war broke it, he had businesses there, he was married to a D&M lady not far from xamar. So when the war broke out he stayed behind with him family. Unfortunately moryaans robbed him and he had to start again. Anyways one of sons had enough of being marginalised so he decided to leave and head for somaliland which he had never seen.
He came to burco at the end, got shown a lot of love from his tol and was treated with respect. He told us how bad live was for him and his family in Mogadishu. He told us how they use to call him Dir waqooyi, tell him go back to your land, bully them. Sometimes even beat them up. He never went back.

On the other hand thousands of reer konfur live in somaliland. Hawiye, Somali Bantu and D&M. Nobody bothers them and they live in peace.
Southern Somalis don't hate Isaaq they're barely aware of your existence.

And what's wrong in calling you Dir? if even SNet members such TheYusuf claim Dir.

Sxb they don't register on our radar we don't border them they're far away from us.


Togdheer

Unfortunately mooryaan is mooryaan. They robbed Darod lands/properties too. Also your folks live in JL (I know of Isaaq in Kismayo) and Caabudwaaq and the south.
However that Xamar racism is surprising to hear of. Nowadays things are much better people don't ask your qabiil. But as a Isaaq your accent will make you stand out
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era of clan war is over mate, but politically I support the Cidagalle and Ciise Muse in the Isaac confederacy and hopefully they will work together to protect their interest. besides them Rer Sanaag and Togdheer Garhajis vs HJ conflict, I am neutral, as for Sacad Muse and the other laangaabs, Fire upon them, especially Biixi shaani
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The most I ever see is a Harti/Isaaq war with MJ maybe checking out early leaving Dhullos/Warsangali. Thats my 2 cents. But how stupid a bunch of destitute Somalis fighting each other.
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nine wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:33 am
Sharmarke91 wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:17 am
Togdeer wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:33 am
Walahi they hate us. My uncle used to live in Mogadishu before the war broke it, he had businesses there, he was married to a D&M lady not far from xamar. So when the war broke out he stayed behind with him family. Unfortunately moryaans robbed him and he had to start again. Anyways one of sons had enough of being marginalised so he decided to leave and head for somaliland which he had never seen.
He came to burco at the end, got shown a lot of love from his tol and was treated with respect. He told us how bad live was for him and his family in Mogadishu. He told us how they use to call him Dir waqooyi, tell him go back to your land, bully them. Sometimes even beat them up. He never went back.

On the other hand thousands of reer konfur live in somaliland. Hawiye, Somali Bantu and D&M. Nobody bothers them and they live in peace.
Southern Somalis don't hate Isaaq they're barely aware of your existence.

And what's wrong in calling you Dir? if even SNet members such TheYusuf claim Dir.

Sxb they don't register on our radar we don't border them they're far away from us.


Togdheer

Unfortunately mooryaan is mooryaan. They robbed Darod lands/properties too. Also your folks live in JL (I know of Isaaq in Kismayo) and Caabudwaaq and the south.
However that Xamar racism is surprising to hear of. Nowadays things are much better people don't ask your qabiil. But as a Isaaq your accent will make you stand out
My family had bad experience there. There are a lot of bad people who hate isaaq, but I can’t say every southerner hates us. But that’s just my family experience. There are a lot of good people and I do have a lot of friends in the UK who come from Mogadishu.

Also about isaaq people living in Jubaland. I remember during then 1974 dabadheer drought a lot of people from the north who lost their livestock got airlifted by Russian planes and were moved to Jubaland. Most of the people came back after the drought. However some stayed behind and enjoyed farming and free education. I think the remaining part left during the civil war. Are there isaaqs still left in Jubaland?
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original dervish wrote: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:28 am Say what you want about s/l, and I'm one of it's biggest critics, but it's not the south Al Hamdu lilah! :D :sland: :up:

You are nothing more than shoe shine boy .


The south is one that opened the school in buuholdle and sent u airplane full of medicine for your shuban infected ppl.
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