Issaq successionists come in

[Django]

You folks have spent most of your 30 years looking for recognition.
You have been searching for it in the wrong places.
Lobbying with foreigners.Using AS like Godaane iyo Afghani even though the other ended up killing his fellow iidoor.

So the thing the only way you folks didnt look further is looking for recognition from Somalia.
You thought Darood are against it.But even though Hawiye will give you a lip service that they have a common goal to check Darod.No hawiye leader be it a President or PM has opened tangible talks with you guys.
It seems most of the meetings organised between the camps is to appease you to go back to the Union.

The only way you folks will get recognition is from Villa Somalia(Villa Ugandishu).

How come you folks have no lobby groups aka infultrators in Xamar?

Over there years two groups have come into power using competitive lobbying/bidding for Villa Somalia.
1.Damul Jadiid ...Xassan Sheikh group

2.Nabad iyo Nolol. ..Xassan Kheyre

Both these two groups are Hawiye managed and controlled.

So why are you folks not using money? To bring your own puppets to Villa Somalia?

Lastly if you folks cannot get recognition as the South vetos it at every opportunity in the International platform.Why not go through it the Eritrean way? Invade the southh and capture capital Xamar.It will just look like a civil war nothing else.

Blaming MSB or Darood 24/7 in your social media will not be a lasting solution because the bottom line is the movers and shakers of politics in Somalia are Hawiye.

[X.Playa]

You folks have spent most of your 30 years looking for recognition.
You have been searching for it in the wrong places.
Lobbying with foreigners.Using AS like Godaane iyo Afghani even though the other ended up killing his fellow iidoor.

So the thing the only way you folks didnt look further is looking for recognition from Somalia.
You thought Darood are against it.But even though Hawiye will give you a lip service that they have a common goal to check Darod.No hawiye leader be it a President or PM has opened tangible talks with you guys.
It seems most of the meetings organised between the camps is to appease you to go back to the Union.

The only way you folks will get recognition is from Villa Somalia(Villa Ugandishu).

How come you folks have no lobby groups aka infultrators in Xamar?

Over there years two groups have come into power using competitive lobbying/bidding for Villa Somalia.
1.Damul Jadiid ...Xassan Sheikh group

2.Nabad iyo Nolol. ..Xassan Kheyre

Both these two groups are Hawiye managed and controlled.

So why are you folks not using money? To bring your own puppets to Villa Somalia?

Lastly if you folks cannot get recognition as the South vetos it at every opportunity in the International platform.Why not go through it the Eritrean way? Invade the southh and capture capital Xamar.It will just look like a civil war nothing else.

Blaming MSB or Darood 24/7 in your social media will not be a lasting solution because the bottom line is the movers and shakers of politics in Somalia are Hawiye.

If it takes us another century we still will continue the quest . Somalia can't recognize somaliland , somalia is just another partner in the defunct union of the Somali republic. Reality is Somaliland is the strongest somali entity in Africa , the south can haggle over petty corruption for decades and not agree in anything , what helps somaliland is the eternal Hawiye/Daarood deadlock in Xamar petty politics. The best thing somaliland has done since the 1960s is to wash its hands out of southern politics.

And who told you we don't have the infiltrators your speaking off? they constantly coordinate and tip somaliland in all faqash moves .

[Togdeer]

There is nothing to succeed we were a government before Somalia got recognised, we formed a union in 1960, then dissolved the union in 1991.
We can do all those things you listed cagdheer boy. But the fact of the matter is Somaliland is not interested and does not want anything to do with somalia.
We could have remained in part of the Union moved the capital to Hargeysa and had an isaaq man to rule it. Even during the 90s and early 2000s when somalia was a hell hole, but we are not interested and we believe we are better off by ourselves then staying in Somalia.

Killing innocent people is against somaliland. Even when SNM took over somaliland a lot of SNM men wanted to destroy Harti and invade their land but Silanyo stopped them. He said we don’t want to build a government on war we want peace so instead we forced all the other clans such as dhulbahante and gudabiirsi to come to the burco conference 1991.

Your other point about lobbying in Somalia, what is there to lobby it there is no fully functioning government. Who are we supposed to deal with, that also is not an option at the moment.

[theyuusuf143]

First and foremost we are not secessionists we just reclaimed the State of Somaliland which was an independent state that merged with zoomalia . Secession applies to regions who wants to break away from a country with out any legal Base.

Somaliland has a legal argument backed by a military mighty. Perhaps you should give advice to your own ONLF not me. Somaliland is de facto state and we are oki as long as we are in control militarily. If I am not worried that I will loose control of my territory I don't have to talk to any one.

[Khalid Ali]

Ogaden giving Isaaq advise on polticis and how to liberate and build a state you failed for ove 134 years.


For us it took us 10 years to defeat afweyne
And for 30 years We create the strongest state democratic sadaat nation prevails

[Django]

Ogaden giving Isaaq advise on polticis and how to liberate and build a state you failed for ove 134 years.


For us it took us 10 years to defeat afweyne
And for 30 years We create the strongest state democratic sadaat nation prevails

Please stick to the topic.If you want answers for the Ogaden region open a thread about it.

So the question is each time when there is a positive news from Xamar or IC delegates or funding to Xamar idoor get a heart attack.

Why is it so? You people said the Konfur has taken away your recognition.
You hate Xamar and MJ with passion.

We know the hate is relating to the two having being against the ictiraf.

You know well you folks are not a country and the only way is the South allowing the north to divorce.
Even if all SSC were in the hands of Isaq ictiraf would be a mirage.

So rather than you folks cursing of Somalia why not take measures to ensure you make the south humble.
Terrorism is not the solution as you saw it from Godane.However much he blew up the south still the international community didnt buy your stability package

So Habar (cursing) is not the solution why not make a Xisbi like xisbiga Umada and fund an Abgaal candidate who will persue your objective and make it easy for ictiraf.
Mise you want your leaders claim to be independent but treated as govonors outside Somalia.

[SahanGalbeed]

Godane was not sent by Somaliland to create chaos in the south . Somaliland is neither interested nor crazy enough to believe we can create a politicak group in Mogadishu that will grant us our wishes of Independence through a third party .Coming back to Godane , both the mareexan and the Ogaden in jubbaland were al shabab. In order to diffuse the tension between these subclans of daarood , Godane was elevated to emir with the blessings of both the mareexan and Turki the Ogaden . The reason nobody is rushing to participate here in your thread is because you're not normal ! Start by being honest and people will join the discussion

[Khalid Ali]

Somaliland recognition is not in the hands of Mogadishu and we don't hate Mogadishu. There is nothing Mogadishu can give us since our argument is Somaliland is not part of Somalia. We neither hate or love Mogadishu it's just many of the capital's of Africa.
There is something we know no one in the world can force Isaaq to share a state with daarood. The ic can give money assurances assitance budget support . But the fact of the ground the italano Somalia can't change it's situation. As for amiir godane he wanted to liberate Italian Somalia from Kenyan Ugandan Ethiopian occupation. Some people view the bantus as the curse and some people view the Turks and other canaasir who are economically eating Somalia as the curse and others shabaab it's all about perspective saaxib.

[Pureblood1]

Personally I could care less about recognition. I like the way things are now Somalia is a dead carcass it needs to be buried as long as Ugandishu is a failed state with Bantu overlords , and Somaliland is still free to do whatever we want that’s as good as recognition to me. As long as my enemies the Somalians stay in the ditch everything is fine with me. As a somalilander we will continue to make foreign deals with no input from the President of 1 bedroom in Villa Somalia aka Failmaajo