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Somaliland is politically isolated...for now

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For a long time Somaliland had a cordial relationship with Ethiopia.

All of its top brass in the military are trained there. Ethiopia was where the SNM went into hiding and where it received local support (same clans across the border) before launching cross border raids.

In many ways Somaliland saw Ethiopia as a strong ally and a shield. It’s been fortunate in its entire existence never having to face a resurgence Somalis due to the unrest and anarchy in the south but it could count on Ethiopia lending a hand since they both had a common Enemy.

Times have changed. Ethiopia is deeply divided and weakened as a result. The new guy has thrown his support behind Xamar. Countries continue to open embassies in Xamar. Somalia is looking more and more like a functioning country.

Somaliland is politically isolated. All the countries that border it are pro one Somalia.

However the dispute btw Kenya and Somalia regarding the seas has opened an opportunity for Somaliland. Kenya is not like Ethiopia nor does it border Somaliland. Kenya May recognize Somaliland. Unclear what impact that will have on the continued resurgence of Somalia
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Lmao all the qadadweyn have got their forks out. The true face of Somalia. Somaliland is not anymore isolated then it previously was. Ethiopia has a 600m defecit with somaliland while also needing an extra gateway to the sea. Berbera port construction will be completed in 2020. This will mean any instability in Somaliland will cause Ethiopia billions in damage to their economy. Somalia is a government propped up by foreign mercenary forces with an arms embargo that won't get lifted until somaliland Somalia conflict is over. This means Somalia trade routes will continue to be occupied by Al shabaab. So it can offer absolutely nothing to Ethiopia. On top of that if somaliland was to agree to join Somalia over Ethiopian pressure we would force the Somali policy to be anti Ethiopian and now non friendly forces would be only miles away from jigjjga and dir dhaba which is an huge threat for Ethiopian national security.
Secondly the live stock issue is not a big issue Saudi Arabia will most likely just buy the meat when they face a shortage and this will force somaliland to diversify more to countries like Malaysia Indonesia Pakistan eygpt.

Its quite amazing though the crabs in a bucket mindset of somalis. As for darood it's understandable their position with somaliland they're fighting for their political influence and are even willing to wave goodbye to somaligalbeed to get ahold of somaliland as it is seems like as easier task than getting galbeed back from Ethiopia that's why siad barre signed a deal with Ethiopia in 88 a tried to remove the population of somaliland and replace them with Ethiopians from kilil5. But for Somalida kale hadanay Somaliweyn ka dhab ahayn is your obsession with somaliland purely because you land is occupied by terrorists and foreign troops and the only geopolitical issues that has anything to do with Somalia is somaliland so that's all you speak of. You'll see them accepting Djibouti as another country but somaliland is Somalidiid.

This will end in a large scale conflict and the international recognition of somaliland.
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Somaliland region ( gobolka waqooyi galbeed ) will never be recognized .
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The proposal of sl secession ended among intellectuals years ago......it's only now years later that the ignorant masses are catching up.

The idea that sl region can ever become a recognised independent state is so idiotic it's not even worth discussing. :D :sland: :up:
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The proposal of sl secession ended among intellectuals years ago......it's only now years later that the ignorant masses are catching up.

The idea that sl region can ever become a recognised independent state is so idiotic it's not even worth discussing. :D :sland: :up:
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original dervish wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:33 pm The proposal of sl secession ended among intellectuals years ago......it's only now years later that the ignorant masses are catching up.

The idea that sl region can ever become a recognised independent state is so idiotic it's not even worth discussing. :D :sland: :up:
You would say that wouldn’t you kkkkk. I predict in 2029 you will be saying the same thing
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Talo alle udaa wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:28 pm For a long time Somaliland had a cordial relationship with Ethiopia.

All of its top brass in the military are trained there. Ethiopia was where the SNM went into hiding and where it received local support (same clans across the border) before launching cross border raids.

In many ways Somaliland saw Ethiopia as a strong ally and a shield. It’s been fortunate in its entire existence never having to face a resurgence Somalis due to the unrest and anarchy in the south but it could count on Ethiopia lending a hand since they both had a common Enemy.

Times have changed. Ethiopia is deeply divided and weakened as a result. The new guy has thrown his support behind Xamar. Countries continue to open embassies in Xamar. Somalia is looking more and more like a functioning country.

Somaliland is politically isolated. All the countries that border it are pro one Somalia.

However the dispute btw Kenya and Somalia regarding the seas has opened an opportunity for Somaliland. Kenya is not like Ethiopia nor does it border Somaliland. Kenya May recognize Somaliland. Unclear what impact that will have on the continued resurgence of Somalia

We shall see, reer somalia day the same thing pretty much every year. The status quo will continue sxb.
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Actually it's the other way round Ethiopia depends on us in terms of economy, security and geopolitics. Somaliland has never been dependent on others. Not even one single year in history. We give one billion cash to Ethiopia , In return we receive nothing from them at the moment. Same goes to the Emirates we gave them our most strategic assets. Both countries will always pay respect to us . It's funny that you are More worried about Kenya , in reality we have no interests in Kenya. They are the one's trying to befriend with us . Our enemy's enemy is just a friend , we are expecting nothing from Kenya.

If you really want Somaliland to be isolated , go to the mosque and beg allah to banish us , because we are tooo strong to be isolated by somalis , and we have no other enemies. :lol:
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Jaamacbuuhoodle wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:08 pm Somaliland region ( gobolka waqooyi galbeed ) will never be recognized .
Waqoooyi Galbeed is a maamul goboleed just like JL, PL, GM, Hir-Shabelle, etc. There never was a referendum for independence (like in S. Sudan), nor a petition with the UN or even AU, so it's no wonder the leaders of Waqooyi Galbeed have failed due to not following the proper protocols & channels (they probably don't know about it).
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Yusef.....a dog dying on a deserted beach has no enemies neither. :D :sland: :up:
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paperino wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:02 pm
Jaamacbuuhoodle wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:08 pm Somaliland region ( gobolka waqooyi galbeed ) will never be recognized .
Waqoooyi Galbeed is a maamul goboleed just like JL, PL, GM, Hir-Shabelle, etc. There never was a referendum for independence (like in S. Sudan), nor a petition with the UN or even AU, so it's no wonder the leaders of Waqooyi Galbeed have failed due to not following the proper protocols & channels (they probably don't know about it).
So how come your daddy farmajo can't visit this federal region,,
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Farmaajo karbaash idoorstan twice this week :damn:
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Somaliland does not rely on Ethiopia even during the SNM the SNM was funded by Isaaq busssines people in Arabian diaspora England USA. We only used the hawd and reserve area in Ethiopia which is Isaaq territory. As for Ethiopia axmed abiye and the Oromo it doesn't change much. Axmed abiye is still a political novice. The amhara and Oromo are in crisis position. At this particular time the biggest crisis bay kujiran.

Somalliland gets it's eid separately from much of the Europeans. Nothing goes via Mogadishu. Arab charity projects are booming in Somaliland. Ethiopia will always be our neighbour we will never attack them unless they fullly ally with darood and hawiye. To fight against Isaaq and they will not so that. It's not in their interest . Somalida waxay tidha oodi ab kadhow.
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mahoka wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:39 pm
Talo alle udaa wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:28 pm For a long time Somaliland had a cordial relationship with Ethiopia.

All of its top brass in the military are trained there. Ethiopia was where the SNM went into hiding and where it received local support (same clans across the border) before launching cross border raids.

In many ways Somaliland saw Ethiopia as a strong ally and a shield. It’s been fortunate in its entire existence never having to face a resurgence Somalis due to the unrest and anarchy in the south but it could count on Ethiopia lending a hand since they both had a common Enemy.

Times have changed. Ethiopia is deeply divided and weakened as a result. The new guy has thrown his support behind Xamar. Countries continue to open embassies in Xamar. Somalia is looking more and more like a functioning country.

Somaliland is politically isolated. All the countries that border it are pro one Somalia.

However the dispute btw Kenya and Somalia regarding the seas has opened an opportunity for Somaliland. Kenya is not like Ethiopia nor does it border Somaliland. Kenya May recognize Somaliland. Unclear what impact that will have on the continued resurgence of Somalia

We shall see, reer somalia day the same thing pretty much every year. The status quo will continue sxb.
There are two forces that are aligning against Somaliland. One is fundamental which was always there, the Dhulos whose loyalty was bought and made to submit with the barrel of the gun, disenfranchised Iidoor clans like the HY, others etc looking to level the playing field with the HA/HJ alliance. The other now is a Somalia getting significant financial and military support.

If the N&N party's candidate wins JL, it will mean the integration of the SNA will speed up. Already the Americans have begun to pay for some of their Salaries. With all the foreign money pouring into N&N pockets, it does not take a rocket science to predict they will start arming & recruiting some of the tribal militias in the North to join the SNA.
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As long as al shabab are active in the south.....no Somali govt can do anything in the north.

Personally I'm against arming tribal molitias in the north.
This secessionism issue will be resolved politically.
The last thing the north needs is southern style chaos.
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