The south

[Mk777]

Puntland is doing a great job it has been more or less stable for around 30 years mashalah. Somaliland has doing well as well during this time although they have not reached their ictiraaf dream as of yet. The south as we know is much more densely populated and diverse then either region. What both of these regions (Puntland, Somaliland) have in common is that before the birth of there respective entities, the elders sat down and agreed on the basic maamul and a vision on how to move forward in their regions. The south has made great progress recently. But i believe federalism is doomed in this area let me tell you why. The two most homogenous states in the south are galmudug and SWS. Galmudug is free from shabaab yet is paralysed by conflicting sub clan interest. I believe sahal80 mentioned that this is how HG eat by engineering scenarios such as the recent xaaf situation which is quite possible. If galmudug which is mostly composed of hal qabiil is so chaotic, how will the other more diverse regions make progress? The vast majority of the South west state is composed of digil and mirifle. Yet it is arguably the region most infested with al shabaab. In other regions, Shabaab is used by some as a power tool against other clans in the region. Why is al shabaab so big in bay and bakool when the majority of this region is composed of Hal qabiil?

[Django]

If Robow was electwd and not have been sidelined and arreated he would have cleansed off AS from Konfur Galbeed he has a large support base of Raxaweyne.

But the Govt incacerated him delibaratly to halt this progress.They rigged the elections and put their puppet Lafta green in power and the hovt just sat and laid back no further action taken against AS.

[Mk777]

If Robow was electwd and not have been sidelined and arreated he would have cleansed off AS from Konfur Galbeed he has a large support base of Raxaweyne.

But the Govt incacerated him delibaratly to halt this progress.They rigged the elections and put their puppet Lafta green in power and the hovt just sat and laid back no further action taken against AS.

The government should have not let him stand for office in the first place. That being said, handing a region to a former deputy leader of al shabaab would have been suicidal.

[Django]

If Robow was electwd and not have been sidelined and arreated he would have cleansed off AS from Konfur Galbeed he has a large support base of Raxaweyne.

But the Govt incacerated him delibaratly to halt this progress.They rigged the elections and put their puppet Lafta green in power and the hovt just sat and laid back no further action taken against AS.

The government should have not let him stand for office in the first place. That being said, handing a region to a former deputy leader of al shabaab would have been suicidal.

No it wouldnt be suicidal.
Because the head of NISA is ex shabaab Zakaria who was head of amniyat.

Zakaria is more of a threat to national security than Robbow who is a wanted man by Alshabaab.

What has lafta green done to improve the lives of commonors its been months and no thing been done.

[Mk777]

If Robow was electwd and not have been sidelined and arreated he would have cleansed off AS from Konfur Galbeed he has a large support base of Raxaweyne.

But the Govt incacerated him delibaratly to halt this progress.They rigged the elections and put their puppet Lafta green in power and the hovt just sat and laid back no further action taken against AS.

The government should have not let him stand for office in the first place. That being said, handing a region to a former deputy leader of al shabaab would have been suicidal.

No it wouldnt be suicidal.
Because the head of NISA is ex shabaab Zakaria who was head of amniyat.

Zakaria is more of a threat to national security than Robbow who is a wanted man by Alshabaab.

What has lafta green done to improve the lives of commonors its been months and no thing been done.

There is not much he can do as most of his state is al shabaab controlled. What is wrong with the government how can they give such a crucial position to a former AS member. Markaas people are shocked when these bombers make it through checkpoints and blow themselves.There should be two stringed method. Integrate the moderates and annihilate all the hard liners. The problem is even in al shabaab etc it is always qabiil first. In xamar, it is known that they collect taxes from businesmen from the same qabiil as them in suuqa bakaaraha etc.

[Django]

The government should have not let him stand for office in the first place. That being said, handing a region to a former deputy leader of al shabaab would have been suicidal.

No it wouldnt be suicidal.
Because the head of NISA is ex shabaab Zakaria who was head of amniyat.

Zakaria is more of a threat to national security than Robbow who is a wanted man by Alshabaab.

What has lafta green done to improve the lives of commonors its been months and no thing been done.

There is not much he can do as most of his state is al shabaab controlled. What is wrong with the government how can they give such a crucial position to a former AS member. Markaas people are shocked when these bombers make it through checkpoints and blow themselves.There should be two stringed method. Integrate the moderates and annihilate all the hard liners. The problem is even in al shabaab etc it is always qabiil first. In xamar, it is known that they collect taxes from businesmen from the same qabiil as them in suuqa bakaaraha etc.

Fiest you have admitted that the failmajo regime is useless.
Secondly if Abu mansur was elected he would starve off recruits from joining AS.Raxaweyn would be empowered as Mansur os their man
Sharif sakin was others aka cadcad may may speaker and his wife was Hawiye.Lafta green is just marexan.

In Xamar
You have AS and cartels.

The current regime is AS friendly.Murursade during Xassan sheikh time were the only clan 100% behind AS.Marexan swithc sides.Thwy are now dawlad but when an MJ is elected they will go back to AS.

[Mk777]

No it wouldnt be suicidal.
Because the head of NISA is ex shabaab Zakaria who was head of amniyat.

Zakaria is more of a threat to national security than Robbow who is a wanted man by Alshabaab.

What has lafta green done to improve the lives of commonors its been months and no thing been done.

There is not much he can do as most of his state is al shabaab controlled. What is wrong with the government how can they give such a crucial position to a former AS member. Markaas people are shocked when these bombers make it through checkpoints and blow themselves.There should be two stringed method. Integrate the moderates and annihilate all the hard liners. The problem is even in al shabaab etc it is always qabiil first. In xamar, it is known that they collect taxes from businesmen from the same qabiil as them in suuqa bakaaraha etc.

Fiest you have admitted that the failmajo regime is useless.
Secondly if Abu mansur was elected he would starve off recruits from joining AS.Raxaweyn would be empowered as Mansur os their man
Sharif sakin was others aka cadcad may may speaker and his wife was Hawiye.Lafta green is just marexan.

In Xamar
You have AS and cartels.

The current regime is AS friendly.Murursade during Xassan sheikh time were the only clan 100% behind AS.Marexan swithc sides.Thwy are now dawlad but when an MJ is elected they will go back to AS.

Electing mansur would be too risky. Yaa loo haysta if he re pledges allegiance to al shabaab other than farmaajo? Yes AS is unforutnately is used in this way as you mentioned. Murusade live in a unforgiven environment in Galmudug so they got behind shabaab to defend their interests. These guys live in ceel bur and xamar only.These AS are also in control of my land in Hiiraan unfortunately they control buq aqable etc. If it wasn’t for Jubaland issue , I would advocate creating our own maamul west Hiiraan and west of Middle Shabelle west of Jowhar. As we have the most land in this region. And is lafta gareen confirmed to be of marexan ancestry?

[sahal80]

Nice to read your great analysis

For more clarification about my theory on HG no hatred though just explaining their nature.
Bro mj are different than HG bc they had the sultante Osman mohamud then it became mohamud saleebaan not only Osman. Remember sharmarke and muuse boqor all were cusman mohamud too. Sharmarke was killed by Ali saleebaan soldier bc cusman took their parliament seat besides theirs. This ali have huge cuqdad and make contacts with xamar their leader is abdisamad galan ex bari governor now PL security minister. They r Daesh led by abdulqador sh muumin they controlled caluula and appeared in sku shuban a typical cali saleebaan population. Muumin is Ali saleebaan they are at war with the al Shabaab warsangali in galgala.

alot of generals have appeared from Omar maxamud of GLK who has relations with Ethiopia like SSDF. siyaad barre built boosaaso port for other mjs to split them and he succeeded. They went back except Omar soldiers. Ethiopia backed abdullahi Yusuf in PL and he defeated Osmans in 2003 but somehow they agreed to make the capital in a neutral position wich is garowe bc of the caasimada ciise maxamed had clout too and joined the rotation. Now this maxamuud saleebaan controls PL.

As for HG, they were always separate and had no sultanate or common ugaas their ugaas is ceyr wich makes him technically the ugaas of ceyr he appeared with kheyre in dhuusomareeb. His name is ugaas Hassan. General aideed have United them as their messiah for the promised land but he couldnt control them as hungry people. A
He was against alot of their wars including their war in baladweyne it was initiated by caato who hated hawadle control of the airport so he can take over it. After that they became separate. Who created al Shabaab army? Adan ceyrow who created damjadeed, hisbul Islam ahlussunaa, himan and herb, sacad galmudug. This is why we refused to form federal state with HG bc it's all about them. Look now kheyre visit started from them and finished in them. By this why HG gets more representations and more concentration and more ghaniima and will have clout in every group. Look huriwaa they are al Shabaab them saruur and daud.

[Mk777]

Nice to read your great analysis

For more clarification about my theory on HG no hatred though just explaining their nature.
Bro mj are different than HG bc they had the sultante Osman mohamud then it became mohamud saleebaan not only Osman. Remember sharmarke and muuse boqor all were cusman mohamud too. Sharmarke was killed by Ali saleebaan soldier bc cusman took their parliament seat besides theirs. This ali have huge cuqdad and make contacts with xamar their leader is abdisamad galan ex bari governor now PL security minister. They r Daesh led by abdulqador sh muumin they controlled caluula and appeared in sku shuban a typical cali saleebaan population. Muumin is Ali saleebaan they are at war with the al Shabaab warsangali in galgala.

alot of generals have appeared from Omar maxamud of GLK who has relations with Ethiopia like SSDF. siyaad barre built boosaaso port for other mjs to split them and he succeeded. They went back except Omar soldiers. Ethiopia backed abdullahi Yusuf in PL and he defeated Osmans in 2003 but somehow they agreed to make the capital in a neutral position wich is garowe bc of the caasimada ciise maxamed had clout too and joined the rotation. Now this maxamuud saleebaan controls PL.

As for HG, they were always separate and had no sultanate or common ugaas their ugaas is ceyr wich makes him technically the ugaas of ceyr he appeared with kheyre in dhuusomareeb. His name is ugaas Hassan. General aideed have United them as their messiah for the promised land but he couldnt control them as hungry people. A
He was against alot of their wars including their war in baladweyne it was initiated by caato who hated hawadle control of the airport so he can take over it. After that they became separate. Who created al Shabaab army? Adan ceyrow who created damjadeed, hisbul Islam ahlussunaa, himan and herb, sacad galmudug. This is why we refused to form federal state with HG bc it's all about them. Look now kheyre visit started from them and finished in them. By this why HG gets more representations and more concentration and more ghaniima and will have clout in every group. Look huriwaa they are al Shabaab them saruur and daud.

Yes sxb I agree there is also another theory I have on Puntland and its success. I believe Puntland is not densely populated at all. 2 million ka badan kuma nool. People say 4 million waa been. Bosaso the largest city, is smaller than beledweyne in size. Waxaan hada cannot be verified. But I believe it is something that will come out in the future. this makes there success story even greater as they have the most harshest desert environment.

[theyuusuf143]

Sida loo kala qabyaalad badan yahay baa loogu kala horeeya xaga is abaabulka , reer koonfur ku qabyaalada ma yaqaanin. Hadaad tidhaahdo waar reer hebelaw maxaad alshabaab isaga celin waydeen. Waxay ku odhanayan ilaahay haw miciino ummada soomaliyeed, waar aabaha iyo soomaliba wase cidi ciidan kuusoo diri maysee tuuladada xorayso.

Daarood ka iyo isaaqu sidaa uma shaqeeyen. Diintooda 1aad waa qabiilkooda tooda labaad waa qabiilkooda , ta saddexaad bay islaamnimadu Soo gashaa. Weliba xitaa islaam nimada danaha qabiil kayaga baan waafajina. Daarood kuna waxay kusii takhasusen sida soomalimada looga dhigto aalad ay ku danaystaan.

Imo Yar oo reer koonfura hadaad bambo u dhiibto oo aad tidhaahdo building kaa qarxi, Wuu qarxinaya isagoon u kala aabo yeelayn . Laakiin mid isaaqa hadaad u dhiibto wuxu ku odhanaya waa meheradii reer kayaga, abtigay baa ku qayila habar yartay ninkeeda baa dukaan ku haysta oo dili maayo dadkaas oo dhan. Qaraabadiisa oo dhanbuu garanaya .

[zidane88]

Most of other Somali clans had been either infighting with themselves or with other tribes since the dawn of time, meanwhile South-westerners had always been peaceful people hence Al-shabab have largest presence in their area.

[BosasoShaam]

Hawiye are the most lawless people in the world, have zero experience on governing, isbaaraatos is the only source of income for hawiye.

Daarood (especially MX&MJ) wants to break hawiye and rule and control every inch of Somalia FOREVER AND EVER.

Dir (especially isaaq) wants to breakaway from Somalia on any cost even if they can sell their daughters to white man or black man like the case of guinea conakry.

Digil & Mirifle masaakinta soomaaliya, the most unfortunate people caught in the middle of the drama.