Hutu Elders Heil H.H. Musa Abdi Salute in appreciation of freeing Hutu Pirates, Seychele is upset

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Hutu Elders Heil H.H. Musa Abdi Salute in appreciation of freeing Hutu Pirates, Seychele is upset

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I am completely against this gesture,

Cafis culture for criminals will harm our jurisdiction system and encourage other criminal minds to follow suite and take advantage of our better side,

also it will affect our international relationships with other countries who we have agreements with.

i totally agree with Seychele here,

-! for Musa Bixi on this issue,

Seychelles' authorities view Somaliland's early release of 19 convicted pirates as breach of deal

(Seychelles News Agency) - Seychelles has condemned the early release of 19 convicted pirates who were sentenced in the island nation and transferred to Somalia to complete their sentences, the Department of Foreign Affairs said.

Somaliland authorities on Thursday released the convicts, who were sentenced in Seychelles to serve 30, 36 and 42 years in prison for piracy.

In 2011, the two countries signed a Memorandum of Understanding on the transfer of sentenced pirates between the government Somaliland and Seychelles. In 2012, 19 convicts were transferred into the custody of the Somaliland authorities where the pirates were to complete their sentences.

The government of Seychelles, an archipelago in the western Indian Ocean, formally wrote to the Somaliland authorities, expressing its strong disapproval of the early release.

"The announcement came as a surprise for us because it is an action that has been taken without consultation with the government of Seychelles. It is against the MoU that we signed with the Somaliland authorities,” said Ian Madeleine, the director of Maritime Affairs at Seychelles’ Department of Foreign Affairs.

The unilateral decision by the Somaliland authorities to modify the sentences of the convicted pirates is in breach of the provisions of the agreement which states that the power to review the judgment or sentences remains with Seychelles, Madeleine said.

Seychelles with the special jurisdiction to handle piracy and maritime crime cases started hearing cases in June 2015.

In May this year, the Seychelles Supreme Court formally charged five suspected Somali pirates who were transferred to Seychelles by EU NAVFOR. One of the pirates had been arrested and transferred to the Seychelles’ authorities in November 2017 and was repatriated in December 2018.

The Department said, “Seychelles has also written to Mauritius and the Indian Ocean Commission as the Chair of the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia to call on the support of the international community to condemn the early release of the 19 Somali pirates by the Somaliland authorities and to bring the matter to the attention to the Secretary-General of the United Nations and the United Nations Security Council.”

Madeleine explained that such a decision endangers the efforts done to fight against piracy and puts at risk the security of the Indian Ocean.

The decision also compromises the extensive collective efforts of the international community to combat and suppress piracy off the coast of Somalia in order to guarantee the safety and security of the Western Indian Ocean. It equally stands to erode the mechanisms, including arrest, prosecution and imprisonment that has been put in place to combat the scourge of piracy and other forms of illicit crimes, the department said.

The situation consequently stands to annul the cooperation that exists between the parties in relation to the repatriation of sentenced pirates on humanitarian grounds, the department said.

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Bunaanilanders ayey u baddan yihiin burcad badeedka laga soo daayey xabsiyada waqooyi galbeed Somalia. Ilamaha aha in habargedir ay ku jiraan.
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ramzy2277 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:13 am Image
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I am completely against this gesture,

Cafis culture for criminals will harm our jurisdiction system and encourage other criminal minds to follow suite and take advantage of our better side,

also it will affect our international relationships with other countries who we have agreements with.

i totally agree with Seychele here,

-! for Musa Bixi on this issue,

Seychelles' authorities view Somaliland's early release of 19 convicted pirates as breach of deal

(Seychelles News Agency) - Seychelles has condemned the early release of 19 convicted pirates who were sentenced in the island nation and transferred to Somalia to complete their sentences, the Department of Foreign Affairs said.

Somaliland authorities on Thursday released the convicts, who were sentenced in Seychelles to serve 30, 36 and 42 years in prison for piracy.

In 2011, the two countries signed a Memorandum of Understanding on the transfer of sentenced pirates between the government Somaliland and Seychelles. In 2012, 19 convicts were transferred into the custody of the Somaliland authorities where the pirates were to complete their sentences.

The government of Seychelles, an archipelago in the western Indian Ocean, formally wrote to the Somaliland authorities, expressing its strong disapproval of the early release.

"The announcement came as a surprise for us because it is an action that has been taken without consultation with the government of Seychelles. It is against the MoU that we signed with the Somaliland authorities,” said Ian Madeleine, the director of Maritime Affairs at Seychelles’ Department of Foreign Affairs.

The unilateral decision by the Somaliland authorities to modify the sentences of the convicted pirates is in breach of the provisions of the agreement which states that the power to review the judgment or sentences remains with Seychelles, Madeleine said.

Seychelles with the special jurisdiction to handle piracy and maritime crime cases started hearing cases in June 2015.

In May this year, the Seychelles Supreme Court formally charged five suspected Somali pirates who were transferred to Seychelles by EU NAVFOR. One of the pirates had been arrested and transferred to the Seychelles’ authorities in November 2017 and was repatriated in December 2018.

The Department said, “Seychelles has also written to Mauritius and the Indian Ocean Commission as the Chair of the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia to call on the support of the international community to condemn the early release of the 19 Somali pirates by the Somaliland authorities and to bring the matter to the attention to the Secretary-General of the United Nations and the United Nations Security Council.”

Madeleine explained that such a decision endangers the efforts done to fight against piracy and puts at risk the security of the Indian Ocean.

The decision also compromises the extensive collective efforts of the international community to combat and suppress piracy off the coast of Somalia in order to guarantee the safety and security of the Western Indian Ocean. It equally stands to erode the mechanisms, including arrest, prosecution and imprisonment that has been put in place to combat the scourge of piracy and other forms of illicit crimes, the department said.

The situation consequently stands to annul the cooperation that exists between the parties in relation to the repatriation of sentenced pirates on humanitarian grounds, the department said.

In Somali world there are 2 power House, its either House Hawiye or House Daroods, so Isaaq enemising both group is a political suicide, so ramzy calm down and stop with the Hutu derogatory name calling because the last thing you need is both Hawiye and Darood to view you as the enemy, and this what precisely Musa Bixi is avoiding by good gesturing toward the Beesha Hawiye.

In Somalia its not the Darood one should fear but the Mafia Hawiyes.
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:28 am Galmudugians ayey u baddan yihiin burcad badeedka laga soo daayey xabsiyada waqooyi galbeed Somalia. Ilamaha aha in Abgaal ay ku jiraan.
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Good gesture by governor bixi to grant early release to his fellow irir samaale brethren. :clap:

What's with the Hutu slurs Ramzy? Leave that to us, ok. :troll:
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The sentence was very unfair to begin with. They don't deserve to be locked for the next 30 years. They didn't kill any one. They were fushermen gone bad after they were threatened by the real pirates. Somaliland has nothing to gain from keeping these innocent hutus. But we have a lot to gain from their clan. WTF is Seychelles even if they go to the UN security council , it won't effect us because we are not member of the United Nations.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:05 pm The sentence was very unfair to begin with. They don't deserve to be locked for the next 30 years. They didn't kill any one. They were fushermen gone bad after they were threatened by the real pirates. Somaliland has nothing to gain from keeping these innocent hutus. But we have a lot to gain from their clan. WTF is Seychelles even if they go to the UN security council , it won't effect us because we are not member of the United Nations.
hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.
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mahoka wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:05 pm The sentence was very unfair to begin with. They don't deserve to be locked for the next 30 years. They didn't kill any one. They were fushermen gone bad after they were threatened by the real pirates. Somaliland has nothing to gain from keeping these innocent hutus. But we have a lot to gain from their clan. WTF is Seychelles even if they go to the UN security council , it won't effect us because we are not member of the United Nations.
hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.

Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders :lol:
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My Isaaqs brethern, recognition will come soon, what HAG truly needs is an another Aideed not too many Ali Mahdis that are soft on daroods.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm
mahoka wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:05 pm The sentence was very unfair to begin with. They don't deserve to be locked for the next 30 years. They didn't kill any one. They were fushermen gone bad after they were threatened by the real pirates. Somaliland has nothing to gain from keeping these innocent hutus. But we have a lot to gain from their clan. WTF is Seychelles even if they go to the UN security council , it won't effect us because we are not member of the United Nations.
hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.

Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders :lol:
You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?
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Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm
mahoka wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.

Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders :lol:
You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?
Beelaha walalaha is laynaya waa la walalaya shidaal laguma daro. No different than ceel afweyne butchery.
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Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm
mahoka wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.

Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders :lol:
You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?
Xildid you need to calm down with this inner irir fighting, do you honestly believe that HAG is killing of dirs in down south Somalia, the wars in Marka is beteen a laf Ceyr vs biimal not all HG let alone Hawiyes and in Hiiran it was Xawadle vs Surre, so for the love god stop fantasying a war that never happened between HAG and Dirs as it doesnt make sense.
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Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm
mahoka wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.

Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders :lol:
You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?
Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized .
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Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm
mahoka wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm hutu won’t give you ictiraaf ya habar xabash, mr qoslaaye and sh sharif said no. No hawiye leader is going to give ictiraaf lol. It doesn’t matter if you beg them or insult them.

Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders :lol:
You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?
Caadi iska dhig. Hawiye have never fought surre nor biyomaal. Habar eji of ceyr fought biimaal while a xawaadle subclan fought surre. Stop this generalization by dragging innocent clans like mudulood, karanle,duduble,xuskul hawiye, gugundhabe and wadalaan in the mud.

If you have problem with hawiye thats up to you but dont blame people who got nothing to do with this.
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