saadaalinta murashaxa Qatar/deciphering Qatar candidate

[sahal80]

for long time there was a talk of jeegaan scenario like Kheyres presidential ambitions but i dont believe he can win shit....anyways like i said in some another thread there is some thing they call "ninkii ka soo dhalaalo regionskiisa ama qabiilkiisa" in bahasha loo daayo. this is the biggest reason why Farmaajo insists to remove Madoobe at all costs its about his fate he needs JL vote in every thing not just for elections for example any extension scenario. in the partnership forum the IC told them to reachout to all somali stakeholders and reach inclusive policy within the next year so the 2020/2021 elections....you get the point now why Farmaajo needs to change JL to create new conditions that...

Southwest though laftagareen is closer to Farmaajo there are some changes on the way like hawiye(likely murursade) vice president who works for kheyre and can be used against lafta gareen and now kheyre has been visiting there so its going to be a neutral ground/territory
Galmudug and Hirshabelle is kinda kheyre territory but i dont think he can control them. what im talking about is a candidate based on yaa nasiib and who has more loyals.
after maamulada its about ciidanka. Kheyre intuu maraykanka joogay wuxuu ka soo dhameeyay in lacagtii ciidanka loo fasaxo mar kale saas ayaa asaga marka lagula xisaabtamay. like hirshabelle iyo galmudug the army he is building concentrates on these two regions and banaadir with commanders that r loyal to him like qoojo for example inkaste oo constitutionally Farmaajo ciidanka hoostago but he can try to make them loyal to him.
..shakur cant state wich one he says mid kamid ah.. like many this mj guy thinks kheyre.

[original dervish]

I've been impressed with Kheyre.....I respect his work ethic and the fact that he actually knows what he's doing.

[Sagax]

Sahal well analyst, but as you know Kheyre not only being for an langaab clan, he is known by the Hiraabs as being an Darood dog siiba farmaajo dog, hence why no matter how much money he gives to HG , Abgaal iyo xawadle he will never be chosen for presidency, the man Kheyre has a had reputation among HAG.

Even Sheikh shariif attacked Kheyre as being useless dictator wannabe that sound he replaced immediately, in short the man Kheyre along with farmaajo will never win the presidency.

[DalJecel60]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

Hahah. Farmaajo and his group are planning extension. But obviously that wont happen. Iyago crawling stage ku jiraa Bey rabaan iney ordaan.

Two former presidents oo wali awood leh oo kasoo jeeda the most powerful and numerous group in xamar are in Xamar and will never allow extension.

[DalJecel60]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

Hahah. Farmaajo and his group are planning extension. But obviously that wont happen. Iyago crawling stage ku jiraa Bey rabaan iney ordaan.

Two former presidents oo wali awood leh oo kasoo jeeda the most powerful and numerous group in xamar are in Xamar and will never allow extension.

But walaal
Former Presidents arent meant to be Mucaarad
Ina Sheikh Axmed has some support lakin Ina Sheikh Maxamuud waaba la necebyahay

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

Hahah. Farmaajo and his group are planning extension. But obviously that wont happen. Iyago crawling stage ku jiraa Bey rabaan iney ordaan.

Two former presidents oo wali awood leh oo kasoo jeeda the most powerful and numerous group in xamar are in Xamar and will never allow extension.

But walaal
Former Presidents arent meant to be Mucaarad
Ina Sheikh Axmed has some support lakin Ina Sheikh Maxamuud waaba la necebyahay

Horta mucaaridnimo is not a bad thing. In fact waa wax fiican inuu mucaarad jiro sida lo dhiso tiir adag waxyaaba grievences imaan kartana lo toosiyo.

Probmlem-ka nabad iyo nolol waxa waaye inclusive maahan. Either your with them or against. Hadii aad ka hoorjeesatid nabad diid baa tahay, qaran dumis etc. Wixii iyaga uu nacamleeyo baa projects la siiya. Iyaga lee wadani ah inta kale waa qaran dumis.


Nimankii Dowladnimada heerkaan gaarsiiyay baa maanta qaran dumis lagu tilmaama. Waxaas waali maahano? Nina shalay diyaarad kuso dagay ,dalka xabad uu qaban baa ku leh "wadani baan ahay"..


Shariif dalka qeybaheeda ugu badan ayuu xoreeyay oo dagaalka madaxtooyada ayuu ka bilaabay ilaa dalka qeybaheesi laga gaarsiiyay dowladnimadii. Turkiga ayuu casuumay oo xiriir wanagsana la yeeshay. Kuumeelgarnimadii baa laga baxay.Doorashadii ugu horeysay since 1960s ayaa gudaha Somalia lagu qabtay.

Hassan baa yimid inkastoo controversial ahaa hadana maamul goboledyada ayuu kulli soo dhisay. JL, Hirshabelle,Southwest, GM. ICJ ayeey dacwad bada geeyeen. Magaaloyin badan buu ka xoreeyay shabaabka. Mar labaad doorasho ayaa dhacday xukunka sii democracy ku jirta ayuu ku wareejiyay Farmaajo. Marka hassan wax muuqdo qabtay calayaxaal.


Nimankan nabad iyo nolol baa yimid. Osoble baa laga bixiyay hirshabelle. Qarash badan ayaa lagu bixiyay. Jawaari baa ku xigay. Sidoo kale alot of bribes was paid. Lafta gareen baa xoog kursiga loogu fadhiisiyay where people even died. CcW baa gurigiisa lagu wareeray a move against the constitution. 6 staff got killed and buried with their clothes on.

Qalbi dhagax baa la dhiibay. GM baa la burburiyay. JL wali dhib baa ka jiro. Wixii juhdi wadankan la gelshay dowladda iminka joogta wax kasta burburin ku heyso. Wax muuqata oo ay canteen lama arag shabaabna waasii xoogeysten.

Xasilooni siyaasaded baa lo baahan yahay oo lo dhan yahay. Ha lays xushmeeyo. Halaga foogaado jidkii qodxa lahaa dib in loogu nooqdo. Oo isbedel ha dhaco.


Wabilahi Towfiiq

Imamka beesha Hiiraab Snet
Hon..Abkoowdhiblaawe Jimcaale

[DalJecel60]

Hahah. Farmaajo and his group are planning extension. But obviously that wont happen. Iyago crawling stage ku jiraa Bey rabaan iney ordaan.

Two former presidents oo wali awood leh oo kasoo jeeda the most powerful and numerous group in xamar are in Xamar and will never allow extension.

But walaal
Former Presidents arent meant to be Mucaarad
Ina Sheikh Axmed has some support lakin Ina Sheikh Maxamuud waaba la necebyahay

Horta mucaaridnimo is not a bad thing. In fact waa wax fiican inuu mucaarad jiro sida lo dhiso tiir adag waxyaaba grievences imaan kartana lo toosiyo.

Probmlem-ka nabad iyo nolol waxa waaye inclusive maahan. Either your with them or against. Hadii aad ka hoorjeesatid nabad diid baa tahay, qaran dumis etc. Wixii iyaga uu nacamleeyo baa projects la siiya. Iyaga lee wadani ah inta kale waa qaran dumis.


Nimankii Dowladnimada heerkaan gaarsiiyay baa maanta qaran dumis lagu tilmaama. Waxaas waali maahano? Nina shalay diyaarad kuso dagay ,dalka xabad uu qaban baa ku leh "wadani baan ahay"..


Shariif dalka qeybaheeda ugu badan ayuu xoreeyay oo dagaalka madaxtooyada ayuu ka bilaabay ilaa dalka qeybaheesi laga gaarsiiyay dowladnimadii. Turkiga ayuu casuumay oo xiriir wanagsana la yeeshay. Kuumeelgarnimadii baa laga baxay.Doorashadii ugu horeysay since 1960s ayaa gudaha Somalia lagu qabtay.

Hassan baa yimid inkastoo controversial ahaa hadana maamul goboledyada ayuu kulli soo dhisay. JL, Hirshabelle,Southwest, GM. ICJ ayeey dacwad bada geeyeen. Magaaloyin badan buu ka xoreeyay shabaabka. Mar labaad doorasho ayaa dhacday xukunka sii democracy ku jirta ayuu ku wareejiyay Farmaajo. Marka hassan wax muuqdo qabtay calayaxaal.


Nimankan nabad iyo nolol baa yimid. Osoble baa laga bixiyay hirshabelle. Qarash badan ayaa lagu bixiyay. Jawaari baa ku xigay. Sidoo kale alot of bribes was paid. Lafta gareen baa xoog kursiga loogu fadhiisiyay where people even died. CcW baa gurigiisa lagu wareeray a move against the constitution. 6 staff got killed and buried with their clothes on.

Qalbi dhagax baa la dhiibay. GM baa la burburiyay. JL wali dhib baa ka jiro. Wixii juhdi wadankan la gelshay dowladda iminka joogta wax kasta burburin ku heyso. Wax muuqata oo ay canteen lama arag shabaabna waasii xoogeysten.

Xasilooni siyaasaded baa lo baahan yahay oo lo dhan yahay. Ha lays xushmeeyo. Halaga foogaado jidkii qodxa lahaa dib in loogu nooqdo. Oo isbedel ha dhaco.


Wabilahi Towfiiq

Imamka beesha Hiiraab Snet
Hon..Abkoowdhiblaawe Jimcaale

Horta Walal

Sh.Shrf wuuxuu sowaday wuxuu AY (AUN) kaga tagey ee hawo cidla kamuusan bilaabin.

Horaa loo yiri nin walba wuxuu kasbaday baalala kulansiin

HSMna laftigii maahan inuu dalka galiyo marxalad colaaded
Meel fog buu dadka kaga yaal inkastoo uu madaxweyne hagist ahaa oo dadka ui shaxeyn oo hal dhinac waxkasto uu eexiyey

I agree with the ur n/n analysis

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

But walaal
Former Presidents arent meant to be Mucaarad
Ina Sheikh Axmed has some support lakin Ina Sheikh Maxamuud waaba la necebyahay

Horta mucaaridnimo is not a bad thing. In fact waa wax fiican inuu mucaarad jiro sida lo dhiso tiir adag waxyaaba grievences imaan kartana lo toosiyo.

Probmlem-ka nabad iyo nolol waxa waaye inclusive maahan. Either your with them or against. Hadii aad ka hoorjeesatid nabad diid baa tahay, qaran dumis etc. Wixii iyaga uu nacamleeyo baa projects la siiya. Iyaga lee wadani ah inta kale waa qaran dumis.


Nimankii Dowladnimada heerkaan gaarsiiyay baa maanta qaran dumis lagu tilmaama. Waxaas waali maahano? Nina shalay diyaarad kuso dagay ,dalka xabad uu qaban baa ku leh "wadani baan ahay"..


Shariif dalka qeybaheeda ugu badan ayuu xoreeyay oo dagaalka madaxtooyada ayuu ka bilaabay ilaa dalka qeybaheesi laga gaarsiiyay dowladnimadii. Turkiga ayuu casuumay oo xiriir wanagsana la yeeshay. Kuumeelgarnimadii baa laga baxay.Doorashadii ugu horeysay since 1960s ayaa gudaha Somalia lagu qabtay.

Hassan baa yimid inkastoo controversial ahaa hadana maamul goboledyada ayuu kulli soo dhisay. JL, Hirshabelle,Southwest, GM. ICJ ayeey dacwad bada geeyeen. Magaaloyin badan buu ka xoreeyay shabaabka. Mar labaad doorasho ayaa dhacday xukunka sii democracy ku jirta ayuu ku wareejiyay Farmaajo. Marka hassan wax muuqdo qabtay calayaxaal.


Nimankan nabad iyo nolol baa yimid. Osoble baa laga bixiyay hirshabelle. Qarash badan ayaa lagu bixiyay. Jawaari baa ku xigay. Sidoo kale alot of bribes was paid. Lafta gareen baa xoog kursiga loogu fadhiisiyay where people even died. CcW baa gurigiisa lagu wareeray a move against the constitution. 6 staff got killed and buried with their clothes on.

Qalbi dhagax baa la dhiibay. GM baa la burburiyay. JL wali dhib baa ka jiro. Wixii juhdi wadankan la gelshay dowladda iminka joogta wax kasta burburin ku heyso. Wax muuqata oo ay canteen lama arag shabaabna waasii xoogeysten.

Xasilooni siyaasaded baa lo baahan yahay oo lo dhan yahay. Ha lays xushmeeyo. Halaga foogaado jidkii qodxa lahaa dib in loogu nooqdo. Oo isbedel ha dhaco.


Wabilahi Towfiiq

Imamka beesha Hiiraab Snet
Hon..Abkoowdhiblaawe Jimcaale

Horta Walal

Sh.Shrf wuuxuu sowaday wuxuu AY (AUN) kaga tagey ee hawo cidla kamuusan bilaabin.

Horaa loo yiri nin walba wuxuu kasbaday baalala kulansiin

HSMna laftigii maahan inuu dalka galiyo marxalad colaaded
Meel fog buu dadka kaga yaal inkastoo uu madaxweyne hagist ahaa oo dadka ui shaxeyn oo hal dhinac waxkasto uu eexiyey

I agree with the ur n/n analysis

Laakin HSM muusan galinin dalka marxalad colaaded. That's what nabad iyo nolol wants you to believe. All he has said is the country going the wrong direction. I can understand he and Sharif's frustration. Everything they built is being destroyed iney ka hadlaan oo ka digan wado qaldan was wax lo baahan yahay.


Hassan could've easily postponed election in 2017 as he was abgaal president in mogadishu where his clan dominates n majority of SNA are abgaal as well in banadir, lower shabelle, middle shabelle. Muusan sameyn oo nin Mareexaan buu uu dhiibay isago dastuurka xushmeynaya. Waa muhiim inaad ogtahay saaxiib.

[sahal80]

Sahal well analyst, but as you know Kheyre not only being for an langaab clan, he is known by the Hiraabs as being an Darood dog siiba farmaajo dog, hence why no matter how much money he gives to HG , Abgaal iyo xawadle he will never be chosen for presidency, the man Kheyre has a had reputation among HAG.

Even Sheikh shariif attacked Kheyre as being useless dictator wannabe that sound he replaced immediately, in short the man Kheyre along with farmaajo will never win the presidency.

agree with you on Kheyre and btw i said this is not about him winning shit rather him blackmaling hirshabelle and Galmudugs new leadership... i said he wont be able to control them it will be another slippery slope on the war with maamulgoboleed. do you know they say to waare please we have no time, resources and energy for you take this money and dont do this we r focusing on xaaf and then madoobe. this means in the eyes of the ic they cant mess with a maamul twice. you can take out osoble but not waare hence they r moving to madoobe even reached heshiis with xaaf to make it sound its noy about him rather about his term coming to an end. so when a new HG leader replaces him they cant repeat the same shit with him. they r telling now waare your time will be up by oct 2020 are you ready to cooperate with our candidate or we gonna select new guy? and what if they select a new guy like nuur iidow beyle or even goodax? they will go were the wind blows.

[sahal80]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

kkkkk do you know how Xamar-based SFG is run? its subject to Amisom or are surrendered by AMISOM in their bunkers no real contact between so called madaxda and the army for example. what they do is they appoint a guy for them behind walls or in their regions. nust bc they can fire and appoint who they want these officers work for them but let us say for example if they see a change they can switch to mucaaradka. all xamar police degmooying is led by only hawiye officers for example taliyaha hawlwadaag is hawadle no single darod officer. police like this will side with its people if they start anti farmaajo revolution. at this time Amisom will be gacan ku gabad after the SNA and police wall falls therefore someoone like a local guy will president in waiting. right now darbiyada shabeelooyinka waa hoobteen this is why americans are under attack in balidoogle.

watch this video. villa somali is in wardhiigleey wich is adjacent to hawlwadaag where parliament is based. Amisom takes farmaajo from wardhiigleey to hawlwadaag and from this to airportka in bulletproof cars and closed roads how can someone like that make kacaan? Abgaal presidents commited big mistake they should have controlled Xamar atleast and destroy the amisom walls. they should have controlled the SNA and local police directly even if it costs their lives. they should have moved amisom from the hinterland to balcad control and afgooye control and kept amisom in halane by this way there will have been a real order in migadishu...elections will have been done under sharif or hassan sheekh and keep selecting themselves. sidee uga qaadan karaa awooda nin boorso wata oo cirka ka soo dhacay? this is the HAG problem. one day i will make a thread about how to run as a HAG president. now alot of HAG leaders have this idea lets us first concentrate on this region fuck somaliwayn wich is what the likes of sanbalolshe are saying. pls watch this document before commenting to understand the reality on the ground it shows how amisom oops Hassan sheekh was running Xamar.

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/pe ... 08673.html

[Jaamacbuuhoodle]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

kacaan uu wado maskiin Farmaajo kolayba maaha Kacaan barakaysan .
Aduunka waxaa ugu daran Hogaamiye fuly ah ,
Farmaajna waa fuly .

[DalJecel60]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

kacaan uu wado maskiin Farmaajo kolayba maaha Kacaan barakaysan .
Aduunka waxaa ugu daran Hogaamiye fuly ah ,
Farmaajna waa fuly .

Oo Yaa Geesi ah?

Deni miyaa ah
Madoobe Miyuu Yahay
Ina Khalif Galaydh maa ah

I fahansii ina adeee gacalise

[Jaamacbuuhoodle]

I doubt there will be a election
Kacaankii baa soo noqdey

kacaan uu wado maskiin Farmaajo kolayba maaha Kacaan barakaysan .
Aduunka waxaa ugu daran Hogaamiye fuly ah ,
Farmaajna waa fuly .

Oo Yaa Geesi ah?

Deni miyaa ah
Madoobe Miyuu Yahay
Ina Khalif Galaydh maa ah

I fahansii ina adeee gacalise

Adeer , waxaa Geesi ah ninka qadiyad leh ,
Kuwa aad soo qortay oo dhan qadiyad maleh ,

Hadaad Aaminsantahay inay tuugta aad magacyadooda soo qortay inay ka shaqeeyan danaha reerka Daarood Ismaaciil ! ?
Adeer , if you actually believe it then I have some seaside property on the moon i want to sell you

[SultanOrder]

Hassan could've easily postponed election in 2017 as he was abgaal president in mogadishu where his clan dominates n majority of SNA are abgaal as well in banadir, lower shabelle, middle shabelle. Muusan sameyn oo nin Mareexaan buu uu dhiibay isago dastuurka xushmeynaya. Waa muhiim inaad ogtahay saaxiib.

Hassan Sheikh Mohamud didn't own the government, so how could he deny it to Farmaajo? The government is a foreign backed government, it would not last for one day if the money was cut off. No one was loyal to HSM nor did he have the resources for him to even consider denying even a jareer the leadership.

Abkow, the problem if you listen to everything opposition tells you, you will think the world is ending tomorrow. Relax, Farmaajo will be gone soon, and we will have a new president to hate on no matter what qabil he is from.