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Re: Why xamar people hate Jubaland

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sahal80 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:07 pm dont worry a BIG radical change from Kismaayo is on the way :lol:

saxiix waaye AZANIA vice president was Sacad HG i think AW can remind us his name and i can explain why. Gaandi was sh sharifs defense minister under CCC he was very smart bc he established ciidamo dawlad(SNA) inside xuduuda Kenya when he was minister. after the cabinet change he declared Azania in nairobi and still had his troops on the ground. bc any thing HG involves will be backed from Xamar otherwise they will become mucaarad and back mx gaandi has picked a sacad HG as vice prez wich was big shock for sheekhal and gaaljecel who represent "hawiye deegaans" in this region

instead of backing Azania and its SNA, kenya has backed raskamboni from religious point like ahlussuna vs al shabaab war bc kenya will be seen as kufaar troops so must have a guy with a beard and religious troops.


Hassan Sh has moved JL file from Kenya and PL to Ethiopia and Ahmed madoobe and Fartaag were pro Ethiopia. like i said Kenya was using Ahmed Madobe tactically but after the war there was a talk of democracy, Kablalahist pro kenya led by an intelectual person like gaandi specially for making oil contracts and ethiopia backs a warlord so the sheikh was like ok we are all pro ethiopia so why not.


in Kismaayo, hiraab led HAG parties like UDP and abdirahman abdishakuur said to adan ducaale we will give you an autonomy once we back. that means they wont look at JL anymore like Galmudug or hirshabelle or southwest. don't shoot the messenger i just got informed by UDP folks they also have new position towards SL. this will make the rest under HAG control.
Like ben shapiro says, "Facts dont care about your feeling," read the Wikileaks cables.

hawiye had no say on jubaland creation, it was mainly Ogadeen and marexaan project supervised by former U.S ambassador to kenya, michael ranneberger.

sahal, hawiye influence doesnt pass afgoi bro that is the reality, how do hawiye want to get to Jubaland when there is a ocean of raxanwayn between the The heart of darkness(hawiye) and the golden state(JL)

there is a reason why the daarood rejected gandhi and favoured madoobe because madoobe got a mandate protect daarood interest and make peace with marexaan thats it, hence why you see former marexaan generals with madoobe like, ina sayed aden, Janan and col cabaas, the clue is on the foking flag, for foke sake :lol:


Jubaland is reality, jubaland flag is all over the houses of people kin ismaayo and gedo, its politics that they disagree on which is natural, when is the last time you heard armed conflict between non al shabab forces.

jubaland sits on firm foundation, what hawiye needs do is liberate their land build somthing and stop sucking the federal government dry.


sahal why you alwayes talk about hiraab, talk about xawadle ama meesha wax kuma heeysid :lol:
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Typhoon wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:45 am
sahal80 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:07 pm dont worry a BIG radical change from Kismaayo is on the way :lol:

saxiix waaye AZANIA vice president was Sacad HG i think AW can remind us his name and i can explain why. Gaandi was sh sharifs defense minister under CCC he was very smart bc he established ciidamo dawlad(SNA) inside xuduuda Kenya when he was minister. after the cabinet change he declared Azania in nairobi and still had his troops on the ground. bc any thing HG involves will be backed from Xamar otherwise they will become mucaarad and back mx gaandi has picked a sacad HG as vice prez wich was big shock for sheekhal and gaaljecel who represent "hawiye deegaans" in this region

instead of backing Azania and its SNA, kenya has backed raskamboni from religious point like ahlussuna vs al shabaab war bc kenya will be seen as kufaar troops so must have a guy with a beard and religious troops.


Hassan Sh has moved JL file from Kenya and PL to Ethiopia and Ahmed madoobe and Fartaag were pro Ethiopia. like i said Kenya was using Ahmed Madobe tactically but after the war there was a talk of democracy, Kablalahist pro kenya led by an intelectual person like gaandi specially for making oil contracts and ethiopia backs a warlord so the sheikh was like ok we are all pro ethiopia so why not.


in Kismaayo, hiraab led HAG parties like UDP and abdirahman abdishakuur said to adan ducaale we will give you an autonomy once we back. that means they wont look at JL anymore like Galmudug or hirshabelle or southwest. don't shoot the messenger i just got informed by UDP folks they also have new position towards SL. this will make the rest under HAG control.
Like ben shapiro says, "Facts dont care about your feeling," read the Wikileaks cables.

hawiye had no say on jubaland creation, it was mainly Ogadeen and marexaan project supervised by former U.S ambassador to kenya, michael ranneberger.

sahal, hawiye influence doesnt pass afgoi bro that is the reality, how do hawiye want to get to Jubaland when there is a ocean of raxanwayn between the The heart of darkness(hawiye) and the golden state(JL)

there is a reason why the daarood rejected gandhi and favoured madoobe because madoobe got a mandate protect daarood interest and make peace with marexaan thats it, hence why you see former marexaan generals with madoobe like, ina sayed aden, Janan and col cabaas, the clue is on the foking flag, for foke sake :lol:


Jubaland is reality, jubaland flag is all over the houses of people kin ismaayo and gedo, its politics that they disagree on which is natural, when is the last time you heard armed conflict between non al shabab forces.

jubaland sits on firm foundation, what hawiye needs do is liberate their land build somthing and stop sucking the federal government dry.


sahal why you alwayes talk about hiraab, talk about xawadle ama meesha wax kuma heeysid :lol:
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Fact of the mater is there is no such a thing as one united Hawiye or Darood one if that was the case in my opinion things would not as messy as they are , its only those of you Fadhi ku dirir beleive such a thing if you look carefuly wven Abgal in Mogadizhou are divided as hell most of them pro government and Ogaden in Kismayo dont see eye to eye Cawlyahan and Ahmed Madoobe laf
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Eaglehawk,
Mogadishu-based Govt mandate is South central somalia or from GLK to Kismaayo this area with the Amisom project thats aligned with the federal govt policies. this is the reason why this govt cant involve in PL elections bc its outside of amisomia . for this reason, Kismaayo is like any south central city legally im not talking about the reality based on its relations eith kenya. so when Hiraab politicians accept this reality iy means they will leave it alone or for kenya. adan ducaale said waa in maalin qaran loo sameeyo hassan sh!

secondly southwest is either controlled by Xamar or allied with Xamar. from buurhakaabo to baraawe SNA is hawiye, its gonna get a new hawiye vice president affter galmudug is finish. lowershabelle governor is the hawiye-allied Garre. shariif sakiin told HAG SNA isbaaroos take half and give me half of the money and take it in the name of southwest!

i welcome this big step HAG should leave alone JL and Somaliwaye and concentrate on these three States and Mogadishu.
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Re: Why xamar people hate Jubaland

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eaglehawk is right,

reer xamar does not want a strong jubbaland. at the end of the day whether marehan or ogadeen heads jubbaland it will still be a darood state like puntland.
i have noticed a lot of war drum being done by some of the HAG media to get marehan and ogadeen to fight each other. Madoobe is not the answer to jubbaland and never will be, but jubbaland state is sacred and must be protected.

Farmaajo's aim is to get rid of madoobe then get a person in that can work with the central government and at the same time push for jubbaland interests.
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jubaland, puntland etc shouldn't exist. the best situation for both darod and somalia as a whole is to replace federalism with centralism, have 13 weak regions instead of 5 powerful fiefdoms and finally copy australia in making bosaso & kismayo respectively the capital city like canberra and financial centre like sydney
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Thank Goodness that HAG has opened it's eyes to Beesha Ogaden assuming their rightful helm in Jubaland, we Sacad since Aideed and Jess days alsways acknowledged that Jubaland belongs to the Ogadens, I'm very happy that my fellow Hiraabs UPS, Himilo And daljir parties have also acknowledged that Jubaland equals Ogadens State in South Somalia, Viva Ogadens our cousins.
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Sagax wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:49 am Thank Goodness that HAG has opened it's eyes to Beesha Ogaden assuming their rightful helm in Jubaland, we Sacad since Aideed and Jess days alsways acknowledged that Jubaland belongs to the Ogadens, I'm very happy that my fellow Hiraabs UPS, Himilo And daljir parties have also acknowledged that Jubaland equals Ogadens State in South Somalia, Viva Ogadens our cousins.
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Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:53 am
Sagax wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:49 am Thank Goodness that HAG has opened it's eyes to Beesha Ogaden assuming their rightful helm in Jubaland, we Sacad since Aideed and Jess days alsways acknowledged that Jubaland belongs to the Ogadens, I'm very happy that my fellow Hiraabs UPS, Himilo And daljir parties have also acknowledged that Jubaland equals Ogadens State in South Somalia, Viva Ogadens our cousins.
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Kismayo is not JL as long as he stays in Kismayo, rag ba uu dhaarsan let him come out walle wassay walle like 2011.
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Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:25 am eaglehawk is right,

reer xamar does not want a strong jubbaland. at the end of the day whether marehan or ogadeen heads jubbaland it will still be a darood state like puntland.
i have noticed a lot of war drum being done by some of the HAG media to get marehan and ogadeen to fight each other. Madoobe is not the answer to jubbaland and never will be, but jubbaland state is sacred and must be protected.

Farmaajo's aim is to get rid of madoobe then get a person in that can work with the central government and at the same time push for jubbaland interests.
lol you arent leading jubaland, ever. do you know why?

you have angered your ugaases in galmudug who used to babysit you in jubaland. :lol:

how do you expect to survive there without their escort? :?
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Caytame wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:56 pm
Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:25 am eaglehawk is right,

reer xamar does not want a strong jubbaland. at the end of the day whether marehan or ogadeen heads jubbaland it will still be a darood state like puntland.
i have noticed a lot of war drum being done by some of the HAG media to get marehan and ogadeen to fight each other. Madoobe is not the answer to jubbaland and never will be, but jubbaland state is sacred and must be protected.

Farmaajo's aim is to get rid of madoobe then get a person in that can work with the central government and at the same time push for jubbaland interests.
lol you arent leading jubaland, ever. do you know why?

you have angered your ugaases in galmudug who used to babysit you in jubaland. :lol:

how do you expect to survive there without their escort? :?
:lol:
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Re: Why xamar people hate Jubaland

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Caytame wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:56 pm
Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:25 am eaglehawk is right,

reer xamar does not want a strong jubbaland. at the end of the day whether marehan or ogadeen heads jubbaland it will still be a darood state like puntland.
i have noticed a lot of war drum being done by some of the HAG media to get marehan and ogadeen to fight each other. Madoobe is not the answer to jubbaland and never will be, but jubbaland state is sacred and must be protected.

Farmaajo's aim is to get rid of madoobe then get a person in that can work with the central government and at the same time push for jubbaland interests.
lol you arent leading jubaland, ever. do you know why?

you have angered your ugaases in galmudug who used to babysit you in jubaland. :lol:

how do you expect to survive there without their escort? :?
i already control 45 percent of jubbaland and by next year it will be 90 percent.

how much do you control?
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Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:14 pm
Caytame wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:56 pm
Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:25 am eaglehawk is right,

reer xamar does not want a strong jubbaland. at the end of the day whether marehan or ogadeen heads jubbaland it will still be a darood state like puntland.
i have noticed a lot of war drum being done by some of the HAG media to get marehan and ogadeen to fight each other. Madoobe is not the answer to jubbaland and never will be, but jubbaland state is sacred and must be protected.

Farmaajo's aim is to get rid of madoobe then get a person in that can work with the central government and at the same time push for jubbaland interests.
lol you arent leading jubaland, ever. do you know why?

you have angered your ugaases in galmudug who used to babysit you in jubaland. :lol:

how do you expect to survive there without their escort? :?
i already control 45 percent of jubbaland and by next year it will be 90 percent.

how much do you control?
where do you control?

Doolow, Luuq and Beledxaawo is under madoobe.
Bardheere and garboharay is under OG general bogmadoow. :lol:

Even I can say I control China and 90% of the U.S, it doesnt become true by saying it.
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Re: Why xamar people hate Jubaland

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Caytame wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:19 pm
Nomand wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:14 pm
Caytame wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:56 pm

lol you arent leading jubaland, ever. do you know why?

you have angered your ugaases in galmudug who used to babysit you in jubaland. :lol:

how do you expect to survive there without their escort? :?
i already control 45 percent of jubbaland and by next year it will be 90 percent.

how much do you control?
where do you control?

Doolow, Luuq and Beledxaawo is under madoobe.
Bardheere and garboharay is under OG general bogmadoow. :lol:

Even I can say I control China and 90% of the U.S, it doesnt become true by saying it.
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walla caaghdeer waa low IQ,

kkkk look at this comedy, the general is ruled by farmaajo the president. and the army there is marehan, as for baardheera, luuq and beledxaawo they are also under the control of SNA. Madoobe men have been replaced or arrested. madoobe is persona non grata in gedo sxb.

we are coming for you, just sit tight. hutu begging or kab iyo lax begging wont save you. ogadeen weren't called caasho aideed for no reason.

ogadeen in 1992 where part of aideed army and in 2012 part of the KDF, never have ogadeen come on their own.
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