How the sheer instability of Somali politics is explained by someone here

[Voltage]

The sheer instability of Somali political calculations based on tribal malice is funny thing to witness wallahi. Someone in this forum can be a prime test case for observing this phenomenon.

Every day this person is leading a crusade against Farmaajo in the name of "HAG."

In an ironic twist, this person even leads a crusade against Farmaajo in the name of Hassan Sheekh and his clan?

In virtually every thread you see, this person is droning on about "HAG" vs "Sahal" ( )------trying to wrap himself in greater "D-block" vs. "H-block" strategy as a vehicle to inspire opposition to Farmaajo.

But the question is what are this person's REAL opinions about "HAG" and are his current views genuine or MANIPULATIVE?

When the "Sahal" card (including Farmaajo) is out of the picture, these are the views this person has expressed since the day he joined

1.

Caqli HAG!

Dadkaan xamar waxaan uga tagney 93gii ayadoo dakada shaqeynaysa sababtana qolyaha waqooyiga waan u ogaleen inay isticmaalaan...sidoo kale caydiid ayaa nagu qabsadey markaan keydka shidaalka heysanay sababra aan "cadawga" uga iibinayno

Dhaqso dakadii waxaa ku bilaabatay duqayn iyo adna kalama soo degaysid!

It took 24 years to open that port mean time using some far off shisheeye port!

like xinoow said I don't support any more of abgaals look xamar security since 2009 when sharif was elected and still the soldiers can't do single house to house operation without amisom!

Two days ago this abgaal commander has left ceelbaraf with his soldiers to collect wages from jowhar!!

New heavy weapons lost for al shabaab around afgooye while their abgaal commander was a way!

kkkkk the abgaal who doesnt control xamar? I dont have real issues with abgaal to begin with apart from their lack of governance bc it hurts me as a somali person to wait from the least qualified people among us and to add insult to the injury that want to lead our regional state

Warsheekh

Lol why can't you fix "unnukaleh" if you had a control in there? Do you know that half of dharkenley from kaxsheekhal to suuq boocle is dominated by D&M/IDPs? Soon they will get connected to al jazeera wich is already is controlled by baydhabo!

If hawadle becomes a president or a pm you will see many hawiye screaming...so in the future when the state-based society gets stronger we will depart them we even have asked the UN not to put us within hawiye in 4.5 but they told us that we have being their war allies...

mooryaan hiraab fuck you

Wax ka jiro maleh

Fuck your shabelle

Tell that to unnukaa leh

kkkkk inferior to dameeroleey and the most stupid people who produced odey cabdalle, salaad cali jeele?? Kkkkkkk I give up!

I had murrsade wadaad friend who tought me alot about you..one time he said to me he never saw an abgaal who can speak wisely or can make good speach..he said only the laughing cow garguurte knows how to make lies....I stopped him and said it's not lies, he just lacks personality

i see warsangali and wacbuudhan killing other in cadale and destroying their houses rar more savage than the a captive person.
it shows you have no dhaqan and ugaas only afarjeebloyaal. funny you r talking about ugaas hassan who celibrates in xamar for ousting dumb garguurte

Etc etc etc.


2. This person always explains his "change" as a reault of the "idea" that HAG govt in Mogadishu will throw better "resources" to "him" (read it as state/tribe), but when the govt before this one was led by a HAG govt in Mogadishu SO WHAT WAS THE PERSON SAYING THEN?

Also why we have to wait them? Yesterday a new 1000 soldiers have finished their training in southwest yet every thing is located for xamar!

I'm saying this and more should be sent directly to the regions not via the dead mogadishu bc when the tfg was controlling one road sharif was visiting baledweyne without the presence of amisom...asking arabs money on this

Remember it was the governor who handed over to them without war after he spent months in xamar asking for financial aid (from the UNDP not your...)

This is September 2009 when the admin broke off ties with the tfg...al shabaab has taken over on 2010

http://hornofafrica-abdikarim.blogspot. ... k.html?m=1


We r paying the price of the useless people in xamar!

why building more turkish airports and hospitals in cisaleey/gubadleey than cadaado, baladweyne

They told them it's the capital lol

All diaspora wants to settle in our regions but for lack of modern services they would settle in xamar

Is that fair? No way!

3. I really don't even want to bother about what this person used to say about Hassan Sheekh personally, since that was everything he wrote about for years, but the question about MANIPULATION has been answered by the person himself who PREDICTED what his position will be with a Darod President;

hawadle r samaale but we r hawiye when Darod r in power. we have learned the game

So this person has apparently learned a "game."

The question is have Abkoow and Abdiwahab learned who that "game"is being played ON and is that why BOTH passive-aggressively ignore everytime the person tries to "shimmy" up to them with blatant HAG usage (something I have noticed a million times recently, their response is always so passive-aggressively cold)?



4. Finally, the person's recently animated anger is really trivial and so provincial. I give you two words: XERADA LAMAGALAAY. That's right. This person DID engage in criticism, but the events in Lamagalaay Base are really the before and aftern of his change from criticism to emotional tribal malice wrapping himself in manipulative fashion the HAG flag he used to spit on for years.

When you think about what's motivating his anger and how small and trivial it is, you can't help but imagine how vindictive the person comes across.

Il-FUUR; kuwaasoo kale ilaahay ishooda hanaga duwo!

[sahal80]

bad move Voltage!

how much hours it took you to search all these i said during hirshabelle formation

to this day your saying an OG cant lead JL you tried to bring hawadle in your issue comparing abgaal to mx and hawadle to OG kkkkk what a delusional kid

there is a hawadle saying i keep repeating it all the time wich is "we dislike HG but we Dislike more who dislikes them" this was said against cadawga HAG wich is well known.

jawi USC ah aa hada baladweyne ka jira more than abgaal how abgaal in Xamar shoul feel. arent the same guys we clashed them over the formation of hirshabelle? whats new? you think some one like you can seperate us? this is the people who were against hassan sheekh. mark this the HAG spring agsinst Farmaajo will start from hiiraan when he he messes with sanbalolshe once they try to do the same shit to him in the xamar airport. he is in nairobi.

i dont even believe Farmaajo is behind this directly he just doesnt run shit but people r right to blame him since he takes masuuliyada not kheyre

she called farmaajo a kooyto kkk there was a meeting in xalane over HAG spring


listen my friend i thought you about hawadle believes before. as shishreye you cannot separate hawadle from hawiye they r miskaxda USC they believe in HAG unity i posted for you before baladweyne and Xamar USC reconciliations hosted by them. you cannot use our local issues with them. you tried your best to make hawadle look like they joined hawiye in the 90s when i was posting their anti-shisheeye poems in the 18 century.. this is static policy towards shisheeyaha go and read about sh ali jimaale. if you have something between us say it but dont ever entertain you can take advantage of out issues with abgaal. i stated we live in unity now this how they see ware he is done bc you cant use hawadle against abgaal.

[Voltage]

Sahal,

I didn't mention your name at all in my entire post (the one time "Sahal" was mentioned was supposed to be thr tribal organization for D-Block) and even more so, I never even implied anything about Xawaadle.

I simply used the example of someone to make a point about the sort of political maneuvering they now show which goes against everything they displayed since the time they got here.

[sahal80]

your post had more quotations from me than yout own words and saying you didnt mention me? you quotted from my abgaal posts at the time if hassan sh to use it in the current context and i posted for you how he is now pupular in hiiraan bc of your maqane how bad is that? the same guy they were against him yesterday! you proved my point!
epic fail!

atleast im not still ranting against abgaal we fought like real men we reached heshiis like men but you still saying the same shit about ahmed madoobe and live in the same war mentality. may allah give you peace of mind under another OG president!

i hope you find comfort in my old words against Abgaal and hassan sh it wont stop my "HAG crusader war" though

[Voltage]

Sahal-

The "people of Hiiraan" are completely irrelevant to this.

See this is the problem. You are so emotional you think this IS REALLY a tribal war like some tribe here and there will grab guns and have a "jabhad."

Again, no body cares about the "people" of anywhere.

That's only in YOUR mind and is the same reason why you were against an HAG "PEOPLE" during Hassan Sheekh and trying to make it about an HAG "PEOPLE" during this gov.

You're an INDIVIDUAL nobody... on the Internet...with a vindictive streak who has no relevance beyond being an example to use about the sort of mentality that makes Somali politics very unstable.

[sahal80]

i never talked against HAG or hawiye only that post Caqli HAG post i was mocking and making self criticism proof im calling the darod port boosaaso shisheeye eich means still HAG is closer to me. nice try!

my point was not reaching middleground in our argument on hirshabelle you took it from its context!

you the qabiilist anti HAG one who pretends that he didnt post all this to make problem between me and other HAGits!

i posted the people of hiiraan siding now with hassan sh whom they were against him yesterday just like me that is how they arre relevant to this. yeah keep pretending! im glad i made you made for suppporting hassan sh against yourrrrrrrr farmaajo by digging my old posts.

how about to stick to your Farmaajo and leave me alone? i even dont mention this non existing dude i was talking sbout kheyre but you consider your hoster your guest and famaajo himself!

i even stopped attacking kheyre bc i have new friends from hos cercles telling me about their coming inqilaab and makong maqane powerless completely and a coming reshuffle and HAG reconciliation so i started blaming my own f-king waari

even if he exists he ecists for you not for me dont impose your opinion on me!

YET your gangs were make themselves closer to waare than me

pleeeeeeez go join your pl and jl folks and leave alone our HAG affairs!


watch my posts its all about hiigsiiyo horumar! fuck the dying N&N !!

[Murax]

Meaning no offense just my personal observation, I noticed the clans that always scream HAG, Darood, Dirc the loudest are the smaller, weaker clans who feel their survival is predicated on it. I observed the bigger clans of those groups have their own individual ambitions and will do whatever and work with whoever to achieve them even if it means working with sub groups on the opposite end

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Meaning no offense just my personal observation, I noticed the clans that always scream HAG, Darood, Dir the loudest are the smaller, weaker clans who feel their survival is predicated on it. I observed the bigger clans of those groups have their own individual ambitions and will do whatever and work with whoever to achieve them even if it means working with sub groups on the opposite end

Bingo. All the laangaabs use those umbrellas

[sahal80]

Meaning no offense just my personal observation, I noticed the clans that always scream HAG, Darood, Dirc the loudest are the smaller, weaker clans who feel their survival is predicated on it. I observed the bigger clans of those groups have their own individual ambitions and will do whatever and work with whoever to achieve them even if it means working with sub groups on the opposite end

we r regionally bigger than your scattered people we using region not 4.5 like you that why hawiye pick your pms bc you have no regional interests unlike of MJ and OG so every thing can be kept for xamar. ccc and shatif khilaaf was about developments waliba boosaaso airport. today if they dissolve the federal govt practically i will get every thing in the name of hirshabelle but you will never get shyt it will go for OG. just look kismaayo all the the power is in reer cabdille hands its like kingdom and all NOGs are dominated by reer isxaaq bc of that ex christian safiir who brought them from ethiopia and gave them all the jobs. you see i dont need HAG or federal govt in my own region. you dont like to mention HAG or SAHAL bc you benefit from both! HAG picks you to represent SAHAL! this is why voltage is why fighting me by making war between me and HAG and it backfired him LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

clans who depend on representing HAG and 4.5 have no big deegaan like murursade and! awrtable were a pm under abdiqasim!

[Voltage]

Sahal,

No. I won't go join anywhere YOU think I should join. Ku lahaa go join PL and JL. See that's the problem with you.

You said you want to be a politician right? Well I am providing free lessons to you so you understand the Somali people.

I am an old school Marehan. Most of my MX brothers and sister here are new school---that's why they look at your words and obvious strategy and then they go and insult your clan in return or insult HAG.

The old-school Marehan (who represents most of the MX back home) thinks Beledweyne ANAA KULA LEH. Xamarna ANAA LA LEH. Meelna iima dirtid ANAA KUU DIRO.

That kaftan aside, there are two things about you that have made me chuckle a lot recently

1. Anytime you get into a minor argument with an MX, you immediately start a passive-aggressive topic about how the next president is HAG and how his PM will be "Ogaden" and erasing the MX role in Galmudug.

2. Engaging in "xigsasho" towards Kheyre against the MX as if he isn't their PM or THE MAN WHOSE VERY EXISTENCE has turned you against the Gov.

So by those two points, never mind how delusional both are in their intent, it is always you who is carrying out preemptive strike against the MX yet your response when they respond is always "LEAVE ME ALONE," "DON'T TAKE ABOUT HIRSHABEELE OR BELEDWEYNE."

The hell?

Ama afeef hore lahoow ama adkeysi danbe yeelo.

Teeda kale why are you ALWAYS attacking MX and "maqane/mooge" whom YOU say is sleeping and unaware, when the guy you blamed for Lamagalaay, the guy you blame for the recent airplane stuff is ALWAYS Kheyre?

Yet it is always Kheyre you wish to then use against us in the name of HAG when it is he who caused you to become angry in the first place?

Wallahi even a psychologist would find this twisted.

Far iyo meel bugtaa is og.

Why don't you just admit it's not MX/Farmaajo you want to use HAG/Hiraab against but another HAG politician and community that have displaced you as the 3rd power in that community?

We are literally the "awrkacsi" being used to wage this fight to get back to business as "usual" in your angry mind and it's that we object to.

If "maqane"had nothing to do with the airport stop and he had nothing to do with the Lamagalaay base, but it is Kheyre then why are you always attacking MX as a clan for the actions of the Hawiye PM against other Hawiye?

[Voltage]

Meaning no offense just my personal observation, I noticed the clans that always scream HAG, Darood, Dirc the loudest are the smaller, weaker clans who feel their survival is predicated on it. I observed the bigger clans of those groups have their own individual ambitions and will do whatever and work with whoever to achieve them even if it means working with sub groups on the opposite end

we r regionally bigger than your scattered people we using region not 4.5 like you that why hawiye pick your pms bc you have no regional interests unlike of MJ and OG so every thing can be kept for xamar. ccc and shatif khilaaf was about developments waliba boosaaso airport. today if they dissolve the federal govt practically i will get every thing in the name of hirshabelle but you will never get shyt it will go for OG. just look kismaayo all the the power is in reer cabdille hands its like kingdom and all NOGs are dominated by reer isxaaq bc of that ex christian safiir who brought them from ethiopia and gave them all the jobs. you see i dont need HAG or federal govt in my own region. you dont like to mention HAG or SAHAL bc you benefit from both! HAG picks you to represent SAHAL! this is why voltage is why fighting me by making war between me and HAG and it backfired him LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

clans who depend on representing HAG and 4.5 have no big deegaan like murursade and! awrtable were a pm under abdiqasim!

You literally live in a section of Beled-Weyne and a section of another Hiiraan district (Buuloburde) whereas Marehan, as a start, singularly occupy a region150% bigger than the whole of Hiiraan where entire sections are controlled by other clans Gaaljecel, Cayr, Jajeele, Baadicade, etx;

1. The Governor is Marehan.
2. The Deputy Governor is Marehan
3. The 2nd Deputy Governor is Marehan
4. The District Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan
5. The deputy district Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan.

Is this guy serious? Deegaan?

[SultanOrder]

Ileen it stems from jealousy and feeling threatened you will be #4 in Hawiye hierarchy being replaced by actual Hawiye. It must be tough being a Hawiye raac

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Let Voltage deal with him. Don't gang on him. Even though he's Reer baadiyo

[Murax]

Meaning no offense just my personal observation, I noticed the clans that always scream HAG, Darood, Dirc the loudest are the smaller, weaker clans who feel their survival is predicated on it. I observed the bigger clans of those groups have their own individual ambitions and will do whatever and work with whoever to achieve them even if it means working with sub groups on the opposite end

we r regionally bigger than your scattered people we using region not 4.5 like you that why hawiye pick your pms bc you have no regional interests unlike of MJ and OG so every thing can be kept for xamar. ccc and shatif khilaaf was about developments waliba boosaaso airport. today if they dissolve the federal govt practically i will get every thing in the name of hirshabelle but you will never get shyt it will go for OG. just look kismaayo all the the power is in reer cabdille hands its like kingdom and all NOGs are dominated by reer isxaaq bc of that ex christian safiir who brought them from ethiopia and gave them all the jobs. you see i dont need HAG or federal govt in my own region. you dont like to mention HAG or SAHAL bc you benefit from both! HAG picks you to represent SAHAL! this is why voltage is why fighting me by making war between me and HAG and it backfired him LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

clans who depend on representing HAG and 4.5 have no big deegaan like murursade and! awrtable were a pm under abdiqasim!

Sahal I didn’t even mention Xawaadle or you, but you took offense to what I said, which I’ll take as you voluntarily self identifying belonging to the groups I was describing because you felt insecure . I didn’t care to know tbh but thanks I guess


If I ever care to discuss HAG politics I’ll discuss with Al Hawiye Al Kibaar Laa Anta.

[sahal80]

show me any post i attacked mx as a clan if you think maqane is gedo governor that is your problem! you back farmaajo bc he is mx and are against me to be against him bc he is not my tribe! see the hypocrisy? man stick your nacamleeyn and let me continue my mucaaradnimo this isسنة الاولين والاخرين

waligeed bay saas aheed! its the life!

i did not state the next pm will be OG i just give you hints bc im صاحب اخلاق i dont believe in qabyaalad iyo isku dir i call for heshiis and im against farmaajo for HAG reconciliation not for his qabiilnimo mxnimo or for his region

what i said was UDP and and himilo aka madasha all promised ducaale a pm from JL. you see now gandhi as kuxufeenka madasha don't shoot the messenger!

if you you fuck up your relation with HAG dont blame me im revealing whats being agreed. only shakuur has mj pm. after a year i hope all the mxs who call me laangaab to not disappear from this wibsite kkkk

lastly like i said there is no peef between hawadle and murursade bc we dont share gobol or state. how come they displaced us when the pm is from them this is a typical abgaal post not even HG post. abgaal eather should have the pm or the president and if there is one now in the fourth rank according to your logic it will be abgaal bc hawadle have lost nothing. yes we had one hawadle interior and three hawadle security ministers in exchange with HG but we were part of the whole HAG regime that has been replaced by a non HAG president and if murursade are happy about it on the expanse.of HAG interests good for them but they r showing now their true colours. there is one theory i heard yesterday that say kheyre is making kacdoon hawiye against Farmaajo so that Xalane and AMISOM can impose him or back him against maqane before the elections. i also heard 500 hawadle ciidamo oo xamar loo dorayo to protect villa somalia!! amisom will be removed from villa somalia and WADANI farmaajo wants eritreans to replace them in villa somalia! this is why i support kheyre i swear i will support murursade against hiraab if they made such big changes. am anti-amisom all the way. i just want stable xamar.