How the sheer instability of Somali politics is explained by someone here

[sahal80]

Meaning no offense just my personal observation, I noticed the clans that always scream HAG, Darood, Dirc the loudest are the smaller, weaker clans who feel their survival is predicated on it. I observed the bigger clans of those groups have their own individual ambitions and will do whatever and work with whoever to achieve them even if it means working with sub groups on the opposite end

we r regionally bigger than your scattered people we using region not 4.5 like you that why hawiye pick your pms bc you have no regional interests unlike of MJ and OG so every thing can be kept for xamar. ccc and shatif khilaaf was about developments waliba boosaaso airport. today if they dissolve the federal govt practically i will get every thing in the name of hirshabelle but you will never get shyt it will go for OG. just look kismaayo all the the power is in reer cabdille hands its like kingdom and all NOGs are dominated by reer isxaaq bc of that ex christian safiir who brought them from ethiopia and gave them all the jobs. you see i dont need HAG or federal govt in my own region. you dont like to mention HAG or SAHAL bc you benefit from both! HAG picks you to represent SAHAL! this is why voltage is why fighting me by making war between me and HAG and it backfired him LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

clans who depend on representing HAG and 4.5 have no big deegaan like murursade and! awrtable were a pm under abdiqasim!

You literally live in a section of Beled-Weyne and a section of another Hiiraan district (Buuloburde) whereas Marehan, as a start, singularly occupy a region150% bigger than the whole of Hiiraan where entire sections are controlled by other clans Gaaljecel, Cayr, Jajeele, Baadicade, etx;

1. The Governor is Marehan.
2. The Deputy Governor is Marehan
3. The 2nd Deputy Governor is Marehan
4. The District Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan
5. The deputy district Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan.

Is this guy serious? Deegaan?

well gedo has more clans from ceelwaaq to baardheere you can even hawadle and gugundhabe in there but that is not the point. we r talking about strategically. when i was in baladweyne they told me i came from turkey! you know why? bc there is local halane north of the airport. the town is south of the airport about 7km they checked my eyes they share intelligence with london and xamar. they knew i came from london through turkey. the local halane investigated me. it was full of american airplanes carrying hub for djibouti. now hirshabelle though Jowhar is the capital all agencies are located in baladweyne. baladweyne is synonyms to kismaayo not garbaharey still buaale is the second both r now diminated by OG. im not talking about population rather adminstration. there r over 500 mx prisoners in kismaayo. any one who makes juuq are labelled al shabaab bc all the security and local admin r majority wise reer abdille. thi is what i mean by who is being bigger regionally i dont give a fk about dusty villages

https://unsom.unmissions.org/office-locations

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Xawaadle

[Voltage]

show me any post i attacked mx as a clan if you think maqane is gedo governor that is your problem! you back farmaajo bc he is mx and are against me to be against him bc he is not my tribe! see the hypocrisy? man stick your nacamleeyn and let me continue my mucaaradnimo this isسنة الاولين والاخرين

waligeed bay saas aheed! its the life!

i did not state the next pm will be OG i just give you hints bc im صاحب اخلاق i dont believe in qabyaalad iyo isku dir i call for heshiis and im against farmaajo for HAG reconciliation not for his qabiilnimo mxnimo or for his region

what i said was UDP and and himilo aka madasha all promised ducaale a pm from JL. you see now gandhi as kuxufeenka madasha don't shoot the messenger!

if you you fuck up your relation with HAG dont blame me im revealing whats being agreed. only shakuur has mj pm. after a year i hope all the mxs who call me laangaab to not disappear from this wibsite kkkk

lastly like i said there is no peef between hawadle and murursade bc we dont share gobol or state. how come they displaced us when the pm is from them this is a typical abgaal post not even HG post. abgaal eather should have the pm or the president and if there is one now in the fourth rank according to your logic it will be abgaal bc hawadle have lost nothing. yes we had one hawadle interior and three hawadle security ministers in exchange with HG but we were part of the whole HAG regime that has been replaced by a non HAG president and if murursade are happy about it on the expanse.of HAG interests good for them but they r showing now their true colours. there is one theory i heard yesterday that say kheyre is making kacdoon hawiye against Farmaajo so that Xalane and AMISOM can impose him or back him against maqane before the elections. i also heard 500 hawadle ciidamo oo xamar loo dorayo to protect villa somalia!! amisom will be removed from villa somalia and WADANI farmaajo wants eritreans to replace them in villa somalia! this is why i support kheyre i swear i will support murursade against hiraab if they made such big changes. am anti-amisom all the way. i just want stable xamar.

Literally NONE of this explains very clearly why "maqane/mooge" or MX or any NON-HAG is to blame for actions YOU attribute to the HAG PM against other HAG?

I want you to explain that?

According to you, it was Kheyre who stopped the plane. It was Kheyre who gave the order to use Lamagalaay Base troops to free Ceelbuur.

Literally this is inter-HAG issue.

What do we have to do with this?

The truth is you can't stand Murusade and you sure as don't want Abgaal back in power. All of your entire fake HAG manipulation is designed for one purpose;

1. Get Murursade out and back to being behind Xawaadle displacing you and your region
2. Try a HG President and especially Abdirahman Abdishakur thinking you have found the perfect concoction to achieve your goals without being a threat to you in Hirshabeele

The thing is I doubt Abgaal is as dumb as you think they are.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

we r regionally bigger than your scattered people we using region not 4.5 like you that why hawiye pick your pms bc you have no regional interests unlike of MJ and OG so every thing can be kept for xamar. ccc and shatif khilaaf was about developments waliba boosaaso airport. today if they dissolve the federal govt practically i will get every thing in the name of hirshabelle but you will never get shyt it will go for OG. just look kismaayo all the the power is in reer cabdille hands its like kingdom and all NOGs are dominated by reer isxaaq bc of that ex christian safiir who brought them from ethiopia and gave them all the jobs. you see i dont need HAG or federal govt in my own region. you dont like to mention HAG or SAHAL bc you benefit from both! HAG picks you to represent SAHAL! this is why voltage is why fighting me by making war between me and HAG and it backfired him LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

clans who depend on representing HAG and 4.5 have no big deegaan like murursade and! awrtable were a pm under abdiqasim!

You literally live in a section of Beled-Weyne and a section of another Hiiraan district (Buuloburde) whereas Marehan, as a start, singularly occupy a region150% bigger than the whole of Hiiraan where entire sections are controlled by other clans Gaaljecel, Cayr, Jajeele, Baadicade, etx;

1. The Governor is Marehan.
2. The Deputy Governor is Marehan
3. The 2nd Deputy Governor is Marehan
4. The District Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan
5. The deputy district Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan.

Is this guy serious? Deegaan?

well gedo has more clans from ceelwaaq to baardheere you can even hawadle and gugundhabe in there but that is not the point. we r talking about strategically. when i was in baladweyne they told me i came from turkey! you know why? bc there is local halane north of the airport. the town is south of the airport about 7km they checked my eyes they share intelligence with london and xamar. they knew i came from london through turkey. the local halane investigated me. it was full of american airplanes carrying hub for djibouti. now hirshabelle though Jowhar is the capital all agencies are located in baladweyne. baladweyne is synonyms to kismaayo not garbaharey still buaale is the second both r now diminated by OG. im not talking about population rather adminstration. there r over 500 mx prisoners in kismaayo. any one who makes juuq are labelled shabaab bc all the security and local admin r majirity wise reer abdille. thi s is what i mean being who is being bigger regionally i dont give a fk about dusty villages

https://unsom.unmissions.org/office-locations

First, There's no Hawiye in Gedo. STFU you lying piece of shit. I try to ease up on you. But now you crossed a line. Xawaadle iyo Samaale waa looma ooyaan in Jubbaland. Bu'ale is the capital because MX don't want OG in our degaans. Secondly, Reer Cabdulle can't do shit without Reer Xassan and Reer Axmed in Kismaayo. Janan is wasiirka amniga and Ina Sayid is the second most powerful in Kismaayo. That's why you were wrong on Jubbaland and my information was accurate as I'm from the region. All the NGOs aren't in Kismaayo anymore due to this khilaaf! Thirdly, I as Reer Xassan is taking your land in Liibaan especially Filtu as it used to be fully Xawaadle. Samaale is looma oyaan in Konfuur iyo Konfuurta Itoobiya. You're a laangaab who isn't even the majority in Hiiraan!

[Voltage]

we r regionally bigger than your scattered people we using region not 4.5 like you that why hawiye pick your pms bc you have no regional interests unlike of MJ and OG so every thing can be kept for xamar. ccc and shatif khilaaf was about developments waliba boosaaso airport. today if they dissolve the federal govt practically i will get every thing in the name of hirshabelle but you will never get shyt it will go for OG. just look kismaayo all the the power is in reer cabdille hands its like kingdom and all NOGs are dominated by reer isxaaq bc of that ex christian safiir who brought them from ethiopia and gave them all the jobs. you see i dont need HAG or federal govt in my own region. you dont like to mention HAG or SAHAL bc you benefit from both! HAG picks you to represent SAHAL! this is why voltage is why fighting me by making war between me and HAG and it backfired him LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

clans who depend on representing HAG and 4.5 have no big deegaan like murursade and! awrtable were a pm under abdiqasim!

You literally live in a section of Beled-Weyne and a section of another Hiiraan district (Buuloburde) whereas Marehan, as a start, singularly occupy a region150% bigger than the whole of Hiiraan where entire sections are controlled by other clans Gaaljecel, Cayr, Jajeele, Baadicade, etx;

1. The Governor is Marehan.
2. The Deputy Governor is Marehan
3. The 2nd Deputy Governor is Marehan
4. The District Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan
5. The deputy district Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan.

Is this guy serious? Deegaan?

well gedo has more clans from ceelwaaq to baardheere you can even hawadle and gugundhabe in there but that is not the point. we r talking about strategically. when i was in baladweyne they told me i came from turkey! you know why? bc there is local halane north of the airport. the town is south of the airport about 7km they checked my eyes they share intelligence with london and xamar. they knew i came from london through turkey. the local halane investigated me. it was full of american airplanes carrying hub for djibouti. now hirshabelle though Jowhar is the capital all agencies are located in baladweyne. baladweyne is synonyms to kismaayo not garbaharey still buaale is the second both r now diminated by OG. im not talking about population rather adminstration. there r over 500 mx prisoners in kismaayo. any one who makes juuq are labelled shabaab bc all the security and local admin r majirity wise reer abdille. thi s is what i mean being who is being bigger regionally i dont give a fk about dusty villages

https://unsom.unmissions.org/office-locations

Scb Gedo is a free state with not a single district capital occupied by al Shabaab. There is not a single local opposition to that administration.

Ku lahaa heblaayo in Gedo. You mean like Beled-Weyne where Gaaljecel can shut off a 1/3 of the city or Cayr that close the streets in entire town or even Dir that fight you for grazing area?

Where is a SINGLE sizable group in Gedo contesting that 100% unanimous administration?

So deegaan is changed now? Ok that's good. I was going to laugh otherwise.

As for Kismaayo, I am not really going to argue about the issue with you, but I will just say before the Kenyan troops and Al Shabaab, we ruled Kismaayo in the name of our clan. And before ICU and Ethiopia, we ruled Kismaayo in the name of our clan.

I am not arguing about what Kismaayo is NOW, but we have no doubt it will change soon.

What I am ALSO sure will change is your position in Hirshabelle. If Abgaal finds itself outside of Villa Somalia in 2020, we both know the bull that was looking elsewhere will be turning back to its state after that.

You literally lucked out as a minority clan when you found the principal clan in the state completely disarmed and in lalaland occupying Villa Somalia. They thought they were throwing you breadcrumbs, but the last couple years made Abgaal throats very dry. Wax yar aan sugno and we will see the unfinished political frustrations there reach boiling point.




You may be trying to use HAG today, but tomorrow something tells me you will be the one asking for someone to save you from HAG.

[Murax]

Sahal,

I don’t begrudge you for wanting what you want. Ra’yigaada waa ra’yigaada anigana teyda. You believe in strong HAG great.


Aniga I want a strong Somali State, and for a Jubbaland moving forward. Everyone else has their own.

[sahal80]

show me any post i attacked mx as a clan if you think maqane is gedo governor that is your problem! you back farmaajo bc he is mx and are against me to be against him bc he is not my tribe! see the hypocrisy? man stick your nacamleeyn and let me continue my mucaaradnimo this isسنة الاولين والاخرين

waligeed bay saas aheed! its the life!

i did not state the next pm will be OG i just give you hints bc im صاحب اخلاق i dont believe in qabyaalad iyo isku dir i call for heshiis and im against farmaajo for HAG reconciliation not for his qabiilnimo mxnimo or for his region

what i said was UDP and and himilo aka madasha all promised ducaale a pm from JL. you see now gandhi as kuxufeenka madasha don't shoot the messenger!

if you you fuck up your relation with HAG dont blame me im revealing whats being agreed. only shakuur has mj pm. after a year i hope all the mxs who call me laangaab to not disappear from this wibsite kkkk

lastly like i said there is no peef between hawadle and murursade bc we dont share gobol or state. how come they displaced us when the pm is from them this is a typical abgaal post not even HG post. abgaal eather should have the pm or the president and if there is one now in the fourth rank according to your logic it will be abgaal bc hawadle have lost nothing. yes we had one hawadle interior and three hawadle security ministers in exchange with HG but we were part of the whole HAG regime that has been replaced by a non HAG president and if murursade are happy about it on the expanse.of HAG interests good for them but they r showing now their true colours. there is one theory i heard yesterday that say kheyre is making kacdoon hawiye against Farmaajo so that Xalane and AMISOM can impose him or back him against maqane before the elections. i also heard 500 hawadle ciidamo oo xamar loo dorayo to protect villa somalia!! amisom will be removed from villa somalia and WADANI farmaajo wants eritreans to replace them in villa somalia! this is why i support kheyre i swear i will support murursade against hiraab if they made such big changes. am anti-amisom all the way. i just want stable xamar.

Literally NONE of this explains very clearly why "maqane/mooge" or MX or any NON-HAG is to blame for actions YOU attribute to the HAG PM against other HAG?

I want you to explain that?

According to you, it was Kheyre who stopped the plane. It was Kheyre who gave the order to use Lamagalaay Base troops to free Ceelbuur.

Literally this is inter-HAG issue.

What do we have to do with this?

The truth is you can't stand Murusade and you sure as don't want Abgaal back in power. All of your entire fake HAG manipulation is designed for one purpose;

1. Get Murursade out and back to being behind Xawaadle displacing you and your region
2. Try a HG President and especially Abdirahman Abdishakur thinking you have found the perfect concoction to achieve your goals without being a threat to you in Hirshabeele

The thing is I doubt Abgaal is as dumb as you think they are.

this proofs my point on why you started this thread wich is your failed skudir you cant stand me supporting hassan sh the right president of xamar just like sanbalolahe called for thats the fact so you restored into desprate attempts taking my HAG words out of its context and now you saying i hate abgaal coming back to power!!! wallahi you are sooooo funny!

kulahaa i want HG and Shakuur yes of course i prefer a HG over mx nothing has to do with qabyaalad they r just hiraab its their land look they swiched now into al shabaab why i have to support a mx person who hides in the hotels or under amisom on the expense of my stability? you claimed "i cant stand murursade" bc you hate my late support for kheyre! damn every thing has back fired you! i was againat murursade for HAGnimo not just bc they "took our third position" hehehhe

this is the thread that mad viltage crazy every thing he says take it as the opposite. as you see nothing has to do with mx rather with HAG. this guy see this danger and you know why! stick to your Dblack affairs!

yes im gonna support kheyre if he protects HAG interests and making reconciliation with HAG and most of all if he replaces somali ciidamo with amisom in madaxtooyada ولو كره الخونة



https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=397925

[sahal80]

You literally live in a section of Beled-Weyne and a section of another Hiiraan district (Buuloburde) whereas Marehan, as a start, singularly occupy a region150% bigger than the whole of Hiiraan where entire sections are controlled by other clans Gaaljecel, Cayr, Jajeele, Baadicade, etx;

1. The Governor is Marehan.
2. The Deputy Governor is Marehan
3. The 2nd Deputy Governor is Marehan
4. The District Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan
5. The deputy district Commissioners of all 7 districts are Marehan.

Is this guy serious? Deegaan?

well gedo has more clans from ceelwaaq to baardheere you can even hawadle and gugundhabe in there but that is not the point. we r talking about strategically. when i was in baladweyne they told me i came from turkey! you know why? bc there is local halane north of the airport. the town is south of the airport about 7km they checked my eyes they share intelligence with london and xamar. they knew i came from london through turkey. the local halane investigated me. it was full of american airplanes carrying hub for djibouti. now hirshabelle though Jowhar is the capital all agencies are located in baladweyne. baladweyne is synonyms to kismaayo not garbaharey still buaale is the second both r now diminated by OG. im not talking about population rather adminstration. there r over 500 mx prisoners in kismaayo. any one who makes juuq are labelled shabaab bc all the security and local admin r majirity wise reer abdille. thi s is what i mean being who is being bigger regionally i dont give a fk about dusty villages

https://unsom.unmissions.org/office-locations

Scb Gedo is a free state with not a single district capital occupied by al Shabaab. There is not a single local opposition to that administration.

Ku lahaa heblaayo in Gedo. You mean like Beled-Weyne where Gaaljecel can shut off a 1/3 of the city or Cayr that close the streets in entire town or even Dir that fight you for grazing area?

Where is a SINGLE sizable group in Gedo contesting that 100% unanimous administration?

So deegaan is changed now? Ok that's good. I was going to laugh otherwise.

As for Kismaayo, I am not really going to argue about the issue with you, but I will just say before the Kenyan troops and Al Shabaab, we ruled Kismaayo in the name of our clan. And before ICU and Ethiopia, we ruled Kismaayo in the name of our clan.

I am not arguing about what Kismaayo is NOW, but we have no doubt it will change soon.

What I am ALSO sure will change is your position in Hirshabelle. If Abgaal finds itself outside of Villa Somalia in 2020, we both know the bull that was looking elsewhere will be turning back to its state after that.

You literally lucked out as a minority clan when you found the principal clan in the state completely disarmed and in lalaland occupying Villa Somalia. They thought they were throwing you breadcrumbs, but the last couple years made Abgaal throats very dry. Wax yar aan sugno and we will see the unfinished political frustrations there reach boiling point.




You may be trying to use HAG today, but tomorrow something tells me you will be the one asking for someone to save you from HAG.

khiyaali aa ku nooshaahay abgaal will come back to power and im telling you now they will have OG pm. when OG had pm who makes southren oil contracts and having port and regional president then we sure who is gonna be the red indians. Hirshabelle is indepent from villa somalia and now abgaal realize their past mistakes they want to built port for Jowhar its enought for them to have the capital and a second port and elect banadir mayor. like i told you before they dont see hawadle gariib we were banadir governor under abgaal president even murursade or HG were never picked as banaador governor by abgaals. we and abgaal do business together right now we r xooghaya guud ee banaadir iyo gudoomiyaha degmada wadajir this is typical abgaal areas. i told you to learn someething abour the local HAG dynamics first. hiiraan is the main gobol in the picture that should lead the state and its leading clan should lead hirshabelle a clan who is seen as an ally by abgaals. on the other hand, the main region in JL is kismaayo wich has gone for OG even under Farmaajo the OG cannot be changed what do you think when they had a pm and special status granted by next govt. this is your future meantime im preparing for my second election in a very clear situation.

im out now!

[Voltage]

This proofs my point on why you started this thread wich is your failed skudir you cant stand me supporting hassan sh the right president of xamar just like sanbalolahe called for thats the fact so you restored into desprate attempts taking my HAG words out of its context and now you saying i hate abgaal coming back to power!!! wallahi you are sooooo funny!

kulahaa i want HG and Shakuur yes of course i prefer a HG over mx nothing has to do with qabyaalad they r just hiraab its their land look they swiched now into al shabaab why i have to support a mx person who hides in the hotels or under amisom on the expense of my stability? you claimed "i cant stand murursade" bc you hate my late support for kheyre! damn every thing has back fired you! i was againat murursade for HAGnimo not just bc they "took our third position" hehehhe

this is the thread that mad viltage crazy every thing he says take it as the opposite. as you see nothing has to do with mx rather with HAG. this guy see this danger and you know why! stick to your Dblack affairs!

yes im gonna support kheyre if he protects HAG interests and making reconciliation with HAG and most of all if he replaces somali ciidamo with amisom in madaxtooyada ولو كره الخونة



https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=397925

I don't think you understand what "backfire" is. Do you understand what logic means?

Your position is that I (MX) hate you because of your;

1. Support to HAG
2. Support to Hassan Sheekh
3. Recent support to Kheyre (and through him Murursade) for no longer being "against" HAGnimo

YET

4. By your own account it was Kheyre who stopped the plane and tried to vandalize the HAG opposition and Hassan Sheekh?

Do you understand how DELUSIONAL you sound?

Literally your position makes no logical sense.

If Kheyre is the one sabotaging the HAG opposition and Hassan Sheekh, the obvious conclusion is they sit on diametrically opposed political positions.

That means, if you support HAG and Hassan Sheekh, how can you have "recent" support to Kheyre (and Murusade) who is the one who politically attacked them?

Moreover, was Kheyre not the one you cursed all over this forum as being behind the Lamagalaay decision that overruled your elders?

Aduunka waxaa ugu daran nin kaa caqli yar oo doonaya inuu ku gato.

Caqli yare, let me tell you something since you think you are talking to babies, you can't STAND Kheyre. You literally despise the guy's guts.

Going back as far as 2012 with the small cabinet under Saacid Shirdoon where the battle was between Xawaadle and Murursade for one of two Hawiye seats (one was guaranteed for HG and Abgaal was President), have remarked continously that your precarious position in HAG is predicated on being the "3rd" power otherwise you would officially join the "Others."

Murusade was your one and only continous competition for that 3rd position.

That is, until their political stock has skyrocketed after taking the PM position. Who actually thinks that Murusade will EVER be passed over again for the Hawiye seat after Abgaal and HG? That's why your delusional statement once that Sanbaloolshe will be given "Interior Minister" in HAG gov made me chuckle because;

1. Never mind that Sanbaloolshe is a clown and never would ANYONE dare to give a ministry to a man who said the Presidency belongs to a clan. I DARE any one to name him.
2. Never would Murursade ever be passed up again for the third seat. Not after they became PM and ballooned their political stock which literally FIRST manifests in securing their rocky position within Hawiye.

Probably since the beginning of this government, you have been holding back your bile which explains why you wanted a no confidence vote 3 months in to the government's existence.

You literally despise Kheyre and ALL of this recent HAG bruhaha is desperately wanting HAG to reconfigure the previous internal power structure.

Using Farmaajo (and through him MX, even going so far as to dust off old and tired Darod vs. Hawiye) is literally your exuse since you can't galvanize HAG againat your real target; another ACTUAL HAG community.

P.s. All the rest of this "I now support Kheyre" is childish reverse psychology because you got into arguments with Marehan kids and trying to get them against their PM to join you in despising the man and wanting to fracture the government.

Also, having just finished looking back at your forum history, you are a broken record. Hassan Sheekh was "maqane" to you and constantly referred to in the way you refer to Farmaajo.

In fact, you literally recycled everything you used to say about Hassan Sheekh to the Abgaal guys like RovingMadness and BlueNWhite.

It seems no one has power, especially the Presidents of this country, but you are constantly mentioning and putting down our throats irrelevant nobodies like Sanbalolashe? You have also mentioned the Ali Jimcaale guy more in this forum in one month than the guy has been mentioned the last 50 years?

I guess everybody else's elephant is a mouse, but your actual mouse are elephants.

[grandpakhalif]

Voltage why bother even engaging with this simpleton? He is far below your paygrade. You are wasting your time.

[Voltage]

Voltage why bother even engaging with this simpleton? He is far below your paygrade. You are wasting your time.

He literally makes no sense with JAMBALKA CAATADA ah.

According to Sahal;

1. Kheyre was behind the airplane sabotage
2. Kheyre was behind the Lamagalaay base

And things I had forgotten but came upon looking at his forum history

3. Kheyre was behind the Abdirahman Abdishakuur arrest
4. Kheyre was behind the canning of the Habar Gidir elders at the airport during Hassan Dahir Aweys arrest

So then maxuu naga rabaa?

Beyond that gardaro, probably the funniest thing is his XIGSASHO of Kheyre against Farmaajo/MX and even celebrating an "inqilaab" in the name of HAG when according to Sahal it was Kheyre who for 3 years has been the bone in HAG throats?

Like how does that inconsistency work?

If a Majerteen PM has done everything to handicap Marehan and no one else according to me, what relevance is him being Darod to me?

Wallah ninka Hawiyaa ka dooran lahaa!

But Marehan was niman is hubo. They wouldn't have to fake smile for someone whose guts they hate because of kalsooni la'aan.

And there is the glaring problem that virtually explains ALL of Sahal in two words; kalsooni la'aan.

[Osob101]

Xawaadle

Arooye even 10 of these are not enough to take down ilmi samatiis. gob iga dheh

[Murax]

Xawaadle

Arooye even 10 of these are not enough to take down ilmi samatiis. gob iga dheh

Waaeareey Osob101 soo dhawow!!

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Lord have mercy..this thread is so messy
Damn I don’t wanna cross a certain person

[Typhoon]

This proofs my point on why you started this thread wich is your failed skudir you cant stand me supporting hassan sh the right president of xamar just like sanbalolahe called for thats the fact so you restored into desprate attempts taking my HAG words out of its context and now you saying i hate abgaal coming back to power!!! wallahi you are sooooo funny!

kulahaa i want HG and Shakuur yes of course i prefer a HG over mx nothing has to do with qabyaalad they r just hiraab its their land look they swiched now into al shabaab why i have to support a mx person who hides in the hotels or under amisom on the expense of my stability? you claimed "i cant stand murursade" bc you hate my late support for kheyre! damn every thing has back fired you! i was againat murursade for HAGnimo not just bc they "took our third position" hehehhe

this is the thread that mad viltage crazy every thing he says take it as the opposite. as you see nothing has to do with mx rather with HAG. this guy see this danger and you know why! stick to your Dblack affairs!

yes im gonna support kheyre if he protects HAG interests and making reconciliation with HAG and most of all if he replaces somali ciidamo with amisom in madaxtooyada ولو كره الخونة



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I don't think you understand what "backfire" is. Do you understand what logic means?

Your position is that I (MX) hate you because of your;

1. Support to HAG
2. Support to Hassan Sheekh
3. Recent support to Kheyre (and through him Murursade) for no longer being "against" HAGnimo

YET

4. By your own account it was Kheyre who stopped the plane and tried to vandalize the HAG opposition and Hassan Sheekh?

Do you understand how DELUSIONAL you sound?

Literally your position makes no logical sense.

If Kheyre is the one sabotaging the HAG opposition and Hassan Sheekh, the obvious conclusion is they sit on diametrically opposed political positions.

That means, if you support HAG and Hassan Sheekh, how can you have "recent" support to Kheyre (and Murusade) who is the one who politically attacked them?

Moreover, was Kheyre not the one you cursed all over this forum as being behind the Lamagalaay decision that overruled your elders?

Aduunka waxaa ugu daran nin kaa caqli yar oo doonaya inuu ku gato.

Caqli yare, let me tell you something since you think you are talking to babies, you can't STAND Kheyre. You literally despise the guy's guts.

Going back as far as 2012 with the small cabinet under Saacid Shirdoon where the battle was between Xawaadle and Murursade for one of two Hawiye seats (one was guaranteed for HG and Abgaal was President), have remarked continously that your precarious position in HAG is predicated on being the "3rd" power otherwise you would officially join the "Others."

murusade was your one and only continous competition for that 3rd position.

That is, until their political stock has skyrocketed after taking the PM position. Who actually thinks that Murusade will EVER be passed over again for the Hawiye seat after Abgaal and HG? That's why your delusional statement once that Sanbaloolshe will be given "Interior Minister" in HAG gov made me chuckle because;

1. Never mind that Sanbaloolshe is a clown and never would ANYONE dare to give a ministry to a man who said the Presidency belongs to a clan. I DARE any one to name him.
2. Never would Murursade ever be passed up again for the third seat. Not after they became PM and ballooned their political stock which literally FIRST manifests in securing their rocky position within Hawiye.

Probably since the beginning of this government, you have been holding back your bile which explains why you wanted a no confidence vote 3 months in to the government's existence.

You literally despise Kheyre and ALL of this recent HAG bruhaha is desperately wanting HAG to reconfigure the previous internal power structure.

Using Farmaajo (and through him MX, even going so far as to dust off old and tired Darod vs. Hawiye) is literally your exuse since you can't galvanize HAG againat your real target; another ACTUAL HAG community.

P.s. All the rest of this "I now support Kheyre" is childish reverse psychology because you got into arguments with Marehan kids and trying to get them against their PM to join you in despising the man and wanting to fracture the government.

Also, having just finished looking back at your forum history, you are a broken record. Hassan Sheekh was "maqane" to you and constantly referred to in the way you refer to Farmaajo.

In fact, you literally recycled everything you used to say about Hassan Sheekh to the Abgaal guys like RovingMadness and BlueNWhite.

It seems no one has power, especially the Presidents of this country, but you are constantly mentioning and putting down our throats irrelevant nobodies like Sanbalolashe? You have also mentioned the Ali Jimcaale guy more in this forum in one month than the guy has been mentioned the last 50 years?

I guess everybody else's elephant is a mouse, but your actual mouse are elephants.

ok, now i understand what motivates sahal and all their politicians

its like the olympics, gold, silver and bronze is between, mudulood, madarkicis and karanle, makes sense since there is no 4th price

I personally think murursade after farmaajo/kheyre is aiming for presidency or prime ministership in every new government, gone are the dayswere murursade was passive.