DalJecel60 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:43 am
Caytame wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:49 am
Murax wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:31 am
DalJecel60,
Caadi waaye Inadeer I give Caytame a pass. Waa Nin Reer Cabdille, Madoobe waa nin Reer Cabdille. Aniga I don’t take it personal.
Btw, Marexaan min waxgaradka, siiyaasiinta etc and even Farmaajo agreed Ogadeen should lead Jubbaland. Don’t know where the cuqdad comes from!
cuzzo i am not even reer cabdulle.
Also, yaa ku waydiisanaya permission to lead jubaland?
we built it, we'll lead it until the end of time, you can continue screaming on here.
Majeerteen built Kismaayo
Kismaayo is a Majeerteen city
Ogaden became a majority only after 1977
Mareexaan came only after 1990
Ogaden lived in Kismaayo since Qarniyaal
Laakin it was always a MJ city
Non disputed
[quote
]An account of Ogaden Domination in Jubaland and NFD, Elliot 1898
"As a result of this manifest weakening of the Wardei they were attacked on
all fronts and it is no surprise that they could not defend themselves but had to flee for their lives. According Turnbull, 'the main conflict was in the east; and the actions fought at Afmadu, on the Deshek Wama, and at EI Lein are still- spoken of by the tribe by 1820
Ogaden were at this point led by the grand old man of the Abd Wak, Abdi Ibrahim , the Sultan, while there were a number of ' invasion commanders under him: Abdi Ibrahim was noted for his bravery and skill in war strategy which eventually led to the Ogaden dominance in the Jubaland. His remarkable leadership qualities are still remembered to this day by the Ogaden. Notable among his commanders were Sultan Magan Yussuf, the Sultan of the Mohamed Zubeer Ogaden, and Hassan Bejan of the Abdalla/Ogaden
Having displaced the Wardei from the Juba region the Ogaden were not
content to settle down but continued their southward expansion since the loot from the Wardei was an appetising reason to continue their raids.
The Ogaden migration from Jubaland to towards the Tana in the 1 860s and 1870s, was one of struggle to wrestle control of the land from the Wardei .The Ogaden were firmly established along the banks of the Tana River by the 1870' s, having virtually conquered and subordinated the Galla to Somali domination. According to Turnbull the attack lof 1865 by the Somali when the Wardei were weakened by plague was so unexpected and so violent that the Wardei were utterly broken by it.
Scattered through the fighting was, hundreds were killed; those who survived either fled to neighbouring tribes or became serfs to the Mohamed Zubeir, the Telemuggeh, or the Magabul. Many were sold as slaves in the markets of Lamu, and Zanzibar.
Had it not been for the arrival of Imperial British East African Company rule in 1885, the Wardei would have ceased to exist as a community with a separate cultural and political identity."
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