Finally Official President Farmaajo Signs Petroleum Bill Into Law

[Murax]

dalalos101,

Exactly. Somalia’s a tiny population relatively speaking, a single ethnic group, that has a clear dhaqan of clans taking and distributing amongst their population. You won’t believe how many people benefit from the few diaspora pennies that are thrown back home, imagine oil dividends.

[zidane88]

Murax, the Somalis you mentioned lived 40-50 years ago. Somalis,Today, as we see are Those building big and beautiful hotels with the money allocated for the IDP camp settlers with nothing to eat and wear.

In reality, Those are the "kindly Somalis" you mentioned. The more money they get, the more greedier they become, which at the end, would cause more disinfranchised society.

The other bad news is, Farmaajo is in Addis-ababa where he is expected to sign port deals, followed by Ethiopian marine deployment in our shores.
We should always think outside the box, and long-term strategies rather than cheap political point scoring.

[Murax]

Murax, the Somalis you mentioned lived 40-50 years ago. Somalis,Today, as we see are Those building big and beautiful hotels with the money allocated for the IDP camp settlers with nothing to eat and wear.

In reality, Those are the "kindly Somalis" you mentioned. The more money they get, the more greedier they become, which at the end, would cause more disinfranchised society.

The other bad news is, Farmaajo is in Addis-ababa where he is expected to sign port deals, followed by Ethiopian marine deployment in our shores.
We should always think outside the box, and long-term strategies rather than cheap political point scoring.

With the first point, ofcourse this isn’t some 50/50 totally fair arrangement. The best, most advantageous deals are made when your bargaining position is the highest. What exact bargaining position does Somalia have? Saudis spend billions on shyt they don’t even use to please western companies, grossly mismanage the oil wealth yet collectively have a better life than Somalis. You have to start somewhere. My point was if there is one benefit to the Somali clan system, it is that people take care of their extended families, extended qaraabo etc. Heck even in Doolow I know the community there did everything they could when IDPs came. Other places in Somalia I hate to say it but the IDP settlers around the major towns are from other clans, that the local people don’t care about, hence they don’t mind living lavishly around them.



With Farmaajo going to Ethiopia for port deals, Ethiopia just signed one with Sudan, ships of theirs now started using Eritrea. Still though out of fair argument I will acknowledge it is a worrying development. This is the paradox discussing these issues with Somalis. You rightfully point out the concern of potential deals Farmaajo may sign with Ethiopia, yet never say anything about Madoobe who is unapologetically doing Kenya’s bidding at a time they have clear as day ambitions on the very Somali resources we dedicated paragraphs to

[original dervish]

I can assure all snetters that oil production/ royalties is at least 15-20 years away.....if at all.

[Turbulence]

The Revenue Sharing Model allocates the Federal Government 55% of revenue from offshore drilling while the Federal Member States share the remaining 45% distributed in a formula between the oil and non-oil producing states and districts.

That is a lot of money for the federal government. This ensures it will remain more powerful than any regional federal state and the country will have a powerful central government in everything but name.

[Shirib]

If most of the money is actually used to help the every day citizen rather than enriching the few elites then this is an excellent development.

[zidane88]

Murax, Madoobe has one port, and we all know Kenya doesn't need port as Ethiopians do, so comparing them is bit daft, don't you think?
Kenya doesn't want port but instead an admin they can rely on (buffer zone) for them.
Have you asked where Ethiopian navy would be deployed. There's another question can Farmaajo rely on Abiye who's bombing to smithereens to his fellow Oromo right now?
At least, TPLF. took 3 years to start their bombing campaign against oppositions unlike Abiye.

[Murax]

Murax, Madoobe has one port, and we all know Kenya doesn't need port as Ethiopians do, so comparing them is bit daft, don't you think?
Kenya doesn't want port but instead an admin they can rely on (buffer zone) for them.
Have you asked where Ethiopian navy would be deployed. There's another question can Farmaajo rely on Abiye who's bombing to smithereens to his fellow Oromo right now?
At least, TPLF. took 3 years to start their bombing campaign against oppositions unlike Abiye.

On the Kenyan point I’ll just go ahead and act like there is not a maritime dispute that is at the highest international judiciary level between Somalia, Kenya. Acknowledging that means acknowledging the conflict of interest, which would force you to question your Adeer, which isn’t going to happen so lets move on.


With regards to the Ethiopian Navy thing while those talks are concerning, lets please be realistic. Entire branches of military, chain of command, logistics, training etc does not happen overnight. You are talking about a 15 year project which can be thwarted if Somalia moves towards consensus.

[zidane88]

Murax, i am not happy about these squables between Madoobe and Farmaajo that had been dragging on and on. Farmaajo had been buttered up by Isias (old fox), and Abiye (snake-charmer) the latter has too much on his hands, had it not been the case different scenario would be seen in Somalia, luckily as things look Ethiopia seem to be heading the road of 1991 Somalia.

The only thing Farmaajo could wisely do is to compromise and act as a unifier, as dictating wouldn't succeed. Example, Galmudug has been spent millions of dollars, time, and look what happened.
We have 3 head, each claiming Presidency with armed militias. Isn't the whole thing turned into a joke, or we keep our eyes wide shut and think it as a progress?

This childish tit-for tat has to stop. We fed up of being in a proxy war.

[Murax]

Murax, i am not happy about these squables between Madoobe and Farmaajo that had been dragging on and on. Farmaajo had been buttered up by Isias (old fox), and Abiye (snake-charmer) the latter has too much on his hands, had it not been the case different scenario would be seen in Somalia, luckily as things look Ethiopia seem to be heading the road of 1991 Somalia.

The only thing Farmaajo could wisely do is to compromise and act as a unifier, as dictating wouldn't succeed. Example, Galmudug has been spent millions of dollars, time, and look what happened.
We have 3 head, each claiming Presidency with armed militias. Isn't the whole thing turned into a joke, or we keep our eyes wide shut and think it as a progress?

This childish tit-for tat has to stop. We fed up of being in a proxy war.

We both agree, I don’t like the status quo in Kismaayo/Jubbaland and at the end of the day its been a big L for everyone involved. Bottom line is due to events I think if we were smart we would take advantage of the opportunity we have to finally get some consensus while our neighbors are distracted.


On the tit for tat thing lets go back to that. Lets be honest and acknowledge with the Federal Leaders who started the attack? Did not Gaas, Waare, Sakiin, Xaaf, Madoobe not all unite very early in Farmaajos term against him? Remind me at that time what were the provocations, I’m not being facetious here but am genuinely curious. Now it does seems N&N then went on a war/campaign to push all of them out. I agree and actually posted WAY too much energy was put into Galmudug. This is where a lot of Ogadeens loose the plot by personalizing and painting some myth of Farmaajo as a MR warlord who has it out for Ogadeen. Using this logic Farmaajo is Anti HG, Anti D&M as well.

[zidane88]

Murax, i know the regional states started their skirmishes earlier but we expected from Farmaajo to be mature enough to deal it.
A master degree holder with western- administartion experience against who? He could use "carrot and stick" policy where applicable
Build mixed-clan based powerful military
Appease warlords (for the time being)
Build tough and honest high intellectual officers
Resist from employing greedy diasporas
Doubling the army wages instead of wasting on political purposes
Employ mums in the districts for intelligence purposes Like Siad Barre
I hope had he done that the warlords may surrender themselves without firing any bullet, but he bared his teeth too early hence this stalemate.

[Murax]

Murax, i know the regional states started their skirmishes earlier but we expected from Farmaajo to be mature enough to deal it.
A master degree holder with western- administartion experience against who? He could use "carrot and stick" policy where applicable
Build mixed-clan based powerful military
Appease warlords (for the time being)
Build tough and honest high intellectual officers
Resist from employing greedy diasporas
Doubling the army wages instead of wasting on political purposes
Employ mums in the districts for intelligence purposes Like Siad Barre
I hope had he done that the warlords may surrender themselves without firing any bullet, but he bared his teeth too early hence this stalemate.

All sound strategies. Sakiin I think had to go, and Gaas had been front and center in politics for too long. The rest though me personally I do agree carrot and stick would have been the best approach.