Another piece from Black Hawk Down

Sir-Luggoyo · Post by **Sir-Luggoyo** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:18 pm

The book Black Hawk Down (which accepts and promotes the official justification for the invasion) gives a picture of the mindset of the U.S. troops in Somalia. They strutted around like they owned the world and had the rightÃ¢Â€Â”and the powerÃ¢Â€Â”to fukk anyone or anything they wanted. They greeted each other with "Hoo-ah!" They considered Somalis less than human, calling them "skinnies" or "sammies." This mindset was a reflection of widespread racist vilification of the Somali people, Africans, and Black people in general as uncivilized savages. NBC News Executive Producer Jeff Gralnick, for instance, called Somali clan leader (and target of U.S. occupation) Mohammed Farrah Aidid an "educated jungle bunny."

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People from all over the city of Mogadishu armed and unarmed, attacked downed Army Rangers from every side. Battle locations were communicated by smoking tires. Neighborhood patrols gathered their fighters and weapons by word of mouth. The book Black Hawk Down describes instance after instance of amazing courage and determination, from the perspective of shocked U.S. soldiers. U.S. troops were stunned that unarmed civilians would rush toward a firefight and not away from it, and to see women and children shooting at them! At the cost of at least hundreds of lives, the Somali people cracked the aura of invincibility that the U.S. was trying to project through terror in Somalia.

Shortly after the Black Hawk down battle, the U.S. withdrew from Somalia, bringing to a close this particular chapter in the history of U.S. wars of shame.

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I know skinnies but what does sammies stand for. Could Mad Mac care to translate that for us since he claims to be one of those who coined the nick?

qudhac-m · Post by **qudhac-m** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:35 pm

Sir
They thought they were having a party at disneyland but the met with real fighters.

VIVA GENRAL AYDIID

B00 · Post by **B00** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:10 pm

They underestimated our strength and our capabilities, Little did they find themselves in a massive crisis.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:45 am

Boy you guys are in a fantasy world. You must need this false sense of bravado to compensate for the fact that Somalis are living like animals - worse than animals - in Somalia today.

Sammy comes from the word Somali. Get it, sammy, somali? Sound similar.

Ducaale004 · Post by **Ducaale004** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:53 am

I will say to you they are savages. How could you turn against the hands that came to feed you? It was a demeaning struggle at the mercy of loyalty to a syphilitic mass murderer. He is one and the only reason you live in the Diaspora today.

Somalia would have been restored to a functioning government if it wasn't for his resistance. As you know even today, the biggest threat that warlords fear today is an external force that would challenge their hostage of the society. They will die against that and the most they do is appeal to their respective clans for support and survival .

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:56 am

Ducaale
The really funny part is the revisionist history we get from Somalis on Somalinet. We were fighting the Haber Gedir. But now, to hear it, we were fighting "the Somalis." Conveniently forgotten is that in Mogodischu alone we were assisted by the Abgal, Hawadle and Murosade.

Ducaale004 · Post by **Ducaale004** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:01 am

I think the book is to make money by introducing the world a view different from previously written views on the Black Hawk Down .

I agree with you majority of the Somalis in Mogadisho supported the U.N peacekeeping troops.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:10 am

The book is not a bad book, but obviously Bowden kept his scope fairly small. He focusses on Task Force Ranger, and only gives cameos to the QRF and the Haber Gedir. He was trying to make the book readable for the average Joe. You start trying to be all encompassing and put together something on a Tolstoy level, and no one is going to read it.

Mowhawk · Post by **Mowhawk** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:14 am

Ducaale wrote;

"As you know even today, the biggest threat that warlords fear today is an external force that would challenge their hostage of the society. They will die against that and the most they do is appeal to their respective clans for support and survival ."

Recently in Somalia, as a person who met and heard from ordinary Somalis querries such as, "why has the world, (Muslims, Africans and the rest) abandoned us to the ruthless warlords"? I second to that statement above. If you ask me, this is a stupid pride when it only escalated and worsened the suffering of millions of Somalis. That is why I want to ask those guys if they would trade places with them?

Ramadaan Kariim

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:30 am

Mohawk
Sad as it is, the world just doesn't care about Somalia. I'm not saying it's right, but no one is going to come help Somalia. The UN will continue to do the bare minimum. Somalia will have to find its own way out of the morass.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:30 am

Mohawk
Sad as it is, the world just doesn't care about Somalia. I'm not saying it's right, but no one is going to come help Somalia. The UN will continue to do the bare minimum. Somalia will have to find its own way out of the morass.