Benadir District, diverse now or 1952?

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

According to the 1950 statistics in Xamar, there was 27 100 hawiyes (Abgaal 21 600, hg 3500, murusade 2000) , reer xamar 10 800, Yemeni arabs 12 000, daarood 2900, mirifle 1700, digil 4500, Sheikhal 1200 and others 5000.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

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According to the 1950 statistics in Xamar, there was 27 100 hawiyes (Abgaal 21 600, hg 3500, murusade 2000) , reer xamar 10 800, Yemeni arabs 12 000, daarood 2900, mirifle 1700, digil 4500, Sheikhal 1200 and others 5000.

From 65k to few millions in 70 years. Interesting.

[theyuusuf143]

There is 4 Dir , in the list , that shows the huge presence of Dir in lower shabeele.

[Voltage]

I love how people are so obsessed with Marehan, they are missing the point.

Forget Marehan, there are more Dir on that list than Darod.

The biggest take away is the theft was never Darod vs. Others.

The theft is very clearly Hawiye to Digil & Mirifle.

[Voltage]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

[Ardentte]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.

From 1962, the United Nations has financed a pilot project for the construction of cheap housing (guriyaha giimaha jaban), at a total cost of US$120,000, co-financed by the Somali government. In 1965 the National Housing Agency (NHA) was created, and a compound of 55 apartment buildings of cheap dwellings (Case Popolari) was constructed west of Muqdisho, between 1965 and 1972. One project of ‘urbanized plots’ was also realized when the NHA parcelled out and equipped 215 plots, selling them for a ‘political price’ of about US$1 per square metre.

Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.

Cumar Istarliin wuxuu sanadkii 1928-kii uu ku dhashay Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Soomaaliya, waxbarashadiisa aasaasiga ahna wuxuu ku qaatay Magaalada Muqdisho, isagoo ka soo qalin jebiyey dugsigii siyaasadda.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1947-kii Cumar Istarliin wuxuu ku biiray Ururkii Dhallinyarada ee SYL, iyadoo daacadnimada halgankiisa darteedna uu Gumeysigii Ingiriiska xabsiga u taxaabay sanadku markuu ahaa 1949-kii.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1950-kii wuxuu nasiib u yeeshay inuu ka mid noqdo Guddigii Arrimaha Bulshada ee Ururka SYL, waxaana xusid mudan in sanadkii 1954-kii uu ka mid noqday Golahii Dhexe ee SYL xilligaas oo ku beegnaa markii uu Cabdullaahi Ciise madaxda ka ahaa dowladdii daakhiliyada.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1963-kii wuxuu Cumar Istarliin doorasho dimoqraadi ah ku soo galay Golahii Shacabka ee deegaanka Xamar isagoo ka soo galay xisbigii Leegada ee uu ku jirey.

10-kii Bishii Febraayo sanadkii 1966-kii wuxuu ku guuleystay doorashadii Duq Magaalo Muqdisho, isagoo muddadii uu xilkaas hayey Magaalada ka qabtay howlo waxtar u leh bulshada Soomaaliyeed sida ceelal uu sameeyey, dhismayaal kala duwan sida jidad ay ka mid yihiin Waddada Via Makka al Mukarrama, Janaraal Da’uud iyo kuwo kale, waxaa kale oo si weyn loogu xusuustaa cabbirkiisii dhul ee loo yiqiin Cabbirka Cumar Istarliin oo dhammaa 30X20 Mitir.

Bishii Maarso ee sandkii 1969-kii ayuu si dimoqraadi ah isaga wareejiyey xilkii duq Magaalo, dabadeedna wuxuu dadaal u galay inuu soo galo isuna soo sharraxo xubin baarlamaanka, nasiib darro lix bilood kadib ayaa isaga oo ka maqan xafiiskiisa waxaa dalka ka dhacay Afgebigii uu talada dalka kula wareegay Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre, waana la xiray markaas Cumar Istarliin wuxuuna xabsiga ku jirey muddo saddex bil ah, isagoo lagala wareegay hanti gaar ahaaneed oo uu lahaa.

Bishii Oktoobar sanadkii 1972-kii Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad ayaa Cumar Istarliin u musaafuriyey dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudi Carabiya iyadoo laga baqayey inuu ku lug yeesho dhaqdhaqaaqyo siyaasadeed oo lagaga soo horjeesto Macallinkii Kacaanka.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1978-kii cumar Istarliin wuxuu taageeray jabhaddi SSDF, xubin buuxda ayuuna ka noqday, wuxuuna la garab istaagay taageero hiil iyo hooba leh, markaas ayaa Siyaad Barre wuxuu maleegay shirqool uu la kaashaday madaxda Sacuudiga, lidna ku ahaa Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno kale, waxayna Boqortooyadii sacuudiga dalkeeda ka soo masaafurisay Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno uu ka mid ahaa Dr.Xasan Cali Mire, waxaana loo soo masaafuriyey dalka Kenya, iyadoo wixii markaas ka dambeeyeyna uu Cumar Istarliin ku noolaa dalkaas.

Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.

1968 the population had doubled to 204,000 and it reached 255,000 by 1970. From then on, natural disasters, wars and lack of planning have driven ever larger groups of families with no resources whatsoever into ‘parasitic’ immigration. The annual rate of population growth in the outskirts of Mogadishu is over 10%, with accompanying problems of congestion, lack of services and lack of hygiene. One of the first problems facing the revolutionary government installed at the end of 1969 was ensuring the orderly planned development of the capital. In 1970, the area occupied by permanent and temporary buildings, legal and illeg­al, was about 1,500 hectares. We can estimate that this is now in the region of 7,000 to 8,000. However, it is impossible to carry out a census of the nomadic families which are continually arriving and settling at the extreme edge in their traditional huts, known as aqal. Accord­ing to the 1970 census, there were about 10,000 permanent masonry dwellings in Muqdisho, inhabited by 74,000 persons, and almost 20,000 temporary dwellings (including the shanties, but not the noma­dic aqal), inhabited by 149,000 persons.

I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.

From 1962, the United Nations has financed a pilot project for the construction of cheap housing (guriyaha giimaha jaban), at a total cost of US$120,000, co-financed by the Somali government. In 1965 the National Housing Agency (NHA) was created, and a compound of 55 apartment buildings of cheap dwellings (Case Popolari) was constructed west of Muqdisho, between 1965 and 1972. One project of ‘urbanized plots’ was also realized when the NHA parcelled out and equipped 215 plots, selling them for a ‘political price’ of about US$1 per square metre.

Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.

Cumar Istarliin wuxuu sanadkii 1928-kii uu ku dhashay Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Soomaaliya, waxbarashadiisa aasaasiga ahna wuxuu ku qaatay Magaalada Muqdisho, isagoo ka soo qalin jebiyey dugsigii siyaasadda.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1947-kii Cumar Istarliin wuxuu ku biiray Ururkii Dhallinyarada ee SYL, iyadoo daacadnimada halgankiisa darteedna uu Gumeysigii Ingiriiska xabsiga u taxaabay sanadku markuu ahaa 1949-kii.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1950-kii wuxuu nasiib u yeeshay inuu ka mid noqdo Guddigii Arrimaha Bulshada ee Ururka SYL, waxaana xusid mudan in sanadkii 1954-kii uu ka mid noqday Golahii Dhexe ee SYL xilligaas oo ku beegnaa markii uu Cabdullaahi Ciise madaxda ka ahaa dowladdii daakhiliyada.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1963-kii wuxuu Cumar Istarliin doorasho dimoqraadi ah ku soo galay Golahii Shacabka ee deegaanka Xamar isagoo ka soo galay xisbigii Leegada ee uu ku jirey.

10-kii Bishii Febraayo sanadkii 1966-kii wuxuu ku guuleystay doorashadii Duq Magaalo Muqdisho, isagoo muddadii uu xilkaas hayey Magaalada ka qabtay howlo waxtar u leh bulshada Soomaaliyeed sida ceelal uu sameeyey, dhismayaal kala duwan sida jidad ay ka mid yihiin Waddada Via Makka al Mukarrama, Janaraal Da’uud iyo kuwo kale, waxaa kale oo si weyn loogu xusuustaa cabbirkiisii dhul ee loo yiqiin Cabbirka Cumar Istarliin oo dhammaa 30X20 Mitir.

Bishii Maarso ee sandkii 1969-kii ayuu si dimoqraadi ah isaga wareejiyey xilkii duq Magaalo, dabadeedna wuxuu dadaal u galay inuu soo galo isuna soo sharraxo xubin baarlamaanka, nasiib darro lix bilood kadib ayaa isaga oo ka maqan xafiiskiisa waxaa dalka ka dhacay Afgebigii uu talada dalka kula wareegay Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre, waana la xiray markaas Cumar Istarliin wuxuuna xabsiga ku jirey muddo saddex bil ah, isagoo lagala wareegay hanti gaar ahaaneed oo uu lahaa.

Bishii Oktoobar sanadkii 1972-kii Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad ayaa Cumar Istarliin u musaafuriyey dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudi Carabiya iyadoo laga baqayey inuu ku lug yeesho dhaqdhaqaaqyo siyaasadeed oo lagaga soo horjeesto Macallinkii Kacaanka.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1978-kii cumar Istarliin wuxuu taageeray jabhaddi SSDF, xubin buuxda ayuuna ka noqday, wuxuuna la garab istaagay taageero hiil iyo hooba leh, markaas ayaa Siyaad Barre wuxuu maleegay shirqool uu la kaashaday madaxda Sacuudiga, lidna ku ahaa Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno kale, waxayna Boqortooyadii sacuudiga dalkeeda ka soo masaafurisay Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno uu ka mid ahaa Dr.Xasan Cali Mire, waxaana loo soo masaafuriyey dalka Kenya, iyadoo wixii markaas ka dambeeyeyna uu Cumar Istarliin ku noolaa dalkaas.

Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.

1968 the population had doubled to 204,000 and it reached 255,000 by 1970. From then on, natural disasters, wars and lack of planning have driven ever larger groups of families with no resources whatsoever into ‘parasitic’ immigration. The annual rate of population growth in the outskirts of Mogadishu is over 10%, with accompanying problems of congestion, lack of services and lack of hygiene. One of the first problems facing the revolutionary government installed at the end of 1969 was ensuring the orderly planned development of the capital. In 1970, the area occupied by permanent and temporary buildings, legal and illeg­al, was about 1,500 hectares. We can estimate that this is now in the region of 7,000 to 8,000. However, it is impossible to carry out a census of the nomadic families which are continually arriving and settling at the extreme edge in their traditional huts, known as aqal. Accord­ing to the 1970 census, there were about 10,000 permanent masonry dwellings in Muqdisho, inhabited by 74,000 persons, and almost 20,000 temporary dwellings (including the shanties, but not the noma­dic aqal), inhabited by 149,000 persons.

I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

Bravo. You said all I wanted to say and more rageedi. Kpp kulaha i laughed especially being Reer mataan whose family owned goofaf in Wardhiigley n boondheere. The hillarious thing is Barkaanle Duuliye Mataan is buried near the old parliament. You have the reer Isloow imam family whose hq was Shangaani.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.

From 1962, the United Nations has financed a pilot project for the construction of cheap housing (guriyaha giimaha jaban), at a total cost of US$120,000, co-financed by the Somali government. In 1965 the National Housing Agency (NHA) was created, and a compound of 55 apartment buildings of cheap dwellings (Case Popolari) was constructed west of Muqdisho, between 1965 and 1972. One project of ‘urbanized plots’ was also realized when the NHA parcelled out and equipped 215 plots, selling them for a ‘political price’ of about US$1 per square metre.

Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.

Cumar Istarliin wuxuu sanadkii 1928-kii uu ku dhashay Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Soomaaliya, waxbarashadiisa aasaasiga ahna wuxuu ku qaatay Magaalada Muqdisho, isagoo ka soo qalin jebiyey dugsigii siyaasadda.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1947-kii Cumar Istarliin wuxuu ku biiray Ururkii Dhallinyarada ee SYL, iyadoo daacadnimada halgankiisa darteedna uu Gumeysigii Ingiriiska xabsiga u taxaabay sanadku markuu ahaa 1949-kii.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1950-kii wuxuu nasiib u yeeshay inuu ka mid noqdo Guddigii Arrimaha Bulshada ee Ururka SYL, waxaana xusid mudan in sanadkii 1954-kii uu ka mid noqday Golahii Dhexe ee SYL xilligaas oo ku beegnaa markii uu Cabdullaahi Ciise madaxda ka ahaa dowladdii daakhiliyada.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1963-kii wuxuu Cumar Istarliin doorasho dimoqraadi ah ku soo galay Golahii Shacabka ee deegaanka Xamar isagoo ka soo galay xisbigii Leegada ee uu ku jirey.

10-kii Bishii Febraayo sanadkii 1966-kii wuxuu ku guuleystay doorashadii Duq Magaalo Muqdisho, isagoo muddadii uu xilkaas hayey Magaalada ka qabtay howlo waxtar u leh bulshada Soomaaliyeed sida ceelal uu sameeyey, dhismayaal kala duwan sida jidad ay ka mid yihiin Waddada Via Makka al Mukarrama, Janaraal Da’uud iyo kuwo kale, waxaa kale oo si weyn loogu xusuustaa cabbirkiisii dhul ee loo yiqiin Cabbirka Cumar Istarliin oo dhammaa 30X20 Mitir.

Bishii Maarso ee sandkii 1969-kii ayuu si dimoqraadi ah isaga wareejiyey xilkii duq Magaalo, dabadeedna wuxuu dadaal u galay inuu soo galo isuna soo sharraxo xubin baarlamaanka, nasiib darro lix bilood kadib ayaa isaga oo ka maqan xafiiskiisa waxaa dalka ka dhacay Afgebigii uu talada dalka kula wareegay Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre, waana la xiray markaas Cumar Istarliin wuxuuna xabsiga ku jirey muddo saddex bil ah, isagoo lagala wareegay hanti gaar ahaaneed oo uu lahaa.

Bishii Oktoobar sanadkii 1972-kii Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad ayaa Cumar Istarliin u musaafuriyey dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudi Carabiya iyadoo laga baqayey inuu ku lug yeesho dhaqdhaqaaqyo siyaasadeed oo lagaga soo horjeesto Macallinkii Kacaanka.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1978-kii cumar Istarliin wuxuu taageeray jabhaddi SSDF, xubin buuxda ayuuna ka noqday, wuxuuna la garab istaagay taageero hiil iyo hooba leh, markaas ayaa Siyaad Barre wuxuu maleegay shirqool uu la kaashaday madaxda Sacuudiga, lidna ku ahaa Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno kale, waxayna Boqortooyadii sacuudiga dalkeeda ka soo masaafurisay Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno uu ka mid ahaa Dr.Xasan Cali Mire, waxaana loo soo masaafuriyey dalka Kenya, iyadoo wixii markaas ka dambeeyeyna uu Cumar Istarliin ku noolaa dalkaas.

Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.

1968 the population had doubled to 204,000 and it reached 255,000 by 1970. From then on, natural disasters, wars and lack of planning have driven ever larger groups of families with no resources whatsoever into ‘parasitic’ immigration. The annual rate of population growth in the outskirts of Mogadishu is over 10%, with accompanying problems of congestion, lack of services and lack of hygiene. One of the first problems facing the revolutionary government installed at the end of 1969 was ensuring the orderly planned development of the capital. In 1970, the area occupied by permanent and temporary buildings, legal and illeg­al, was about 1,500 hectares. We can estimate that this is now in the region of 7,000 to 8,000. However, it is impossible to carry out a census of the nomadic families which are continually arriving and settling at the extreme edge in their traditional huts, known as aqal. Accord­ing to the 1970 census, there were about 10,000 permanent masonry dwellings in Muqdisho, inhabited by 74,000 persons, and almost 20,000 temporary dwellings (including the shanties, but not the noma­dic aqal), inhabited by 149,000 persons.

I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

Bravo. You said all I wanted to say and more rageedi. Kpp kulaha i laughed especially being Reer mataan whose family owned goofaf in Wardhiigley n boondheere. The hillarious thing is Barkaanle Duuliye Mataan is buried near the old parliament. You have the reer Isloow imam family whose hq was Shangaani.

[Samatalis249]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.

From 1962, the United Nations has financed a pilot project for the construction of cheap housing (guriyaha giimaha jaban), at a total cost of US$120,000, co-financed by the Somali government. In 1965 the National Housing Agency (NHA) was created, and a compound of 55 apartment buildings of cheap dwellings (Case Popolari) was constructed west of Muqdisho, between 1965 and 1972. One project of ‘urbanized plots’ was also realized when the NHA parcelled out and equipped 215 plots, selling them for a ‘political price’ of about US$1 per square metre.

Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.

Cumar Istarliin wuxuu sanadkii 1928-kii uu ku dhashay Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Soomaaliya, waxbarashadiisa aasaasiga ahna wuxuu ku qaatay Magaalada Muqdisho, isagoo ka soo qalin jebiyey dugsigii siyaasadda.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1947-kii Cumar Istarliin wuxuu ku biiray Ururkii Dhallinyarada ee SYL, iyadoo daacadnimada halgankiisa darteedna uu Gumeysigii Ingiriiska xabsiga u taxaabay sanadku markuu ahaa 1949-kii.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1950-kii wuxuu nasiib u yeeshay inuu ka mid noqdo Guddigii Arrimaha Bulshada ee Ururka SYL, waxaana xusid mudan in sanadkii 1954-kii uu ka mid noqday Golahii Dhexe ee SYL xilligaas oo ku beegnaa markii uu Cabdullaahi Ciise madaxda ka ahaa dowladdii daakhiliyada.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1963-kii wuxuu Cumar Istarliin doorasho dimoqraadi ah ku soo galay Golahii Shacabka ee deegaanka Xamar isagoo ka soo galay xisbigii Leegada ee uu ku jirey.

10-kii Bishii Febraayo sanadkii 1966-kii wuxuu ku guuleystay doorashadii Duq Magaalo Muqdisho, isagoo muddadii uu xilkaas hayey Magaalada ka qabtay howlo waxtar u leh bulshada Soomaaliyeed sida ceelal uu sameeyey, dhismayaal kala duwan sida jidad ay ka mid yihiin Waddada Via Makka al Mukarrama, Janaraal Da’uud iyo kuwo kale, waxaa kale oo si weyn loogu xusuustaa cabbirkiisii dhul ee loo yiqiin Cabbirka Cumar Istarliin oo dhammaa 30X20 Mitir.

Bishii Maarso ee sandkii 1969-kii ayuu si dimoqraadi ah isaga wareejiyey xilkii duq Magaalo, dabadeedna wuxuu dadaal u galay inuu soo galo isuna soo sharraxo xubin baarlamaanka, nasiib darro lix bilood kadib ayaa isaga oo ka maqan xafiiskiisa waxaa dalka ka dhacay Afgebigii uu talada dalka kula wareegay Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre, waana la xiray markaas Cumar Istarliin wuxuuna xabsiga ku jirey muddo saddex bil ah, isagoo lagala wareegay hanti gaar ahaaneed oo uu lahaa.

Bishii Oktoobar sanadkii 1972-kii Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad ayaa Cumar Istarliin u musaafuriyey dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudi Carabiya iyadoo laga baqayey inuu ku lug yeesho dhaqdhaqaaqyo siyaasadeed oo lagaga soo horjeesto Macallinkii Kacaanka.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1978-kii cumar Istarliin wuxuu taageeray jabhaddi SSDF, xubin buuxda ayuuna ka noqday, wuxuuna la garab istaagay taageero hiil iyo hooba leh, markaas ayaa Siyaad Barre wuxuu maleegay shirqool uu la kaashaday madaxda Sacuudiga, lidna ku ahaa Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno kale, waxayna Boqortooyadii sacuudiga dalkeeda ka soo masaafurisay Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno uu ka mid ahaa Dr.Xasan Cali Mire, waxaana loo soo masaafuriyey dalka Kenya, iyadoo wixii markaas ka dambeeyeyna uu Cumar Istarliin ku noolaa dalkaas.

Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.

1968 the population had doubled to 204,000 and it reached 255,000 by 1970. From then on, natural disasters, wars and lack of planning have driven ever larger groups of families with no resources whatsoever into ‘parasitic’ immigration. The annual rate of population growth in the outskirts of Mogadishu is over 10%, with accompanying problems of congestion, lack of services and lack of hygiene. One of the first problems facing the revolutionary government installed at the end of 1969 was ensuring the orderly planned development of the capital. In 1970, the area occupied by permanent and temporary buildings, legal and illeg­al, was about 1,500 hectares. We can estimate that this is now in the region of 7,000 to 8,000. However, it is impossible to carry out a census of the nomadic families which are continually arriving and settling at the extreme edge in their traditional huts, known as aqal. Accord­ing to the 1970 census, there were about 10,000 permanent masonry dwellings in Muqdisho, inhabited by 74,000 persons, and almost 20,000 temporary dwellings (including the shanties, but not the noma­dic aqal), inhabited by 149,000 persons.

I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

I’ve said it before he wants to turn raxanweyn attention away from gedo. Every single degmo in gedo is disputed. There is a long night in hell coming for marexaan.

[STARKAST]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.

From 1962, the United Nations has financed a pilot project for the construction of cheap housing (guriyaha giimaha jaban), at a total cost of US$120,000, co-financed by the Somali government. In 1965 the National Housing Agency (NHA) was created, and a compound of 55 apartment buildings of cheap dwellings (Case Popolari) was constructed west of Muqdisho, between 1965 and 1972. One project of ‘urbanized plots’ was also realized when the NHA parcelled out and equipped 215 plots, selling them for a ‘political price’ of about US$1 per square metre.

Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.

Cumar Istarliin wuxuu sanadkii 1928-kii uu ku dhashay Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Soomaaliya, waxbarashadiisa aasaasiga ahna wuxuu ku qaatay Magaalada Muqdisho, isagoo ka soo qalin jebiyey dugsigii siyaasadda.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1947-kii Cumar Istarliin wuxuu ku biiray Ururkii Dhallinyarada ee SYL, iyadoo daacadnimada halgankiisa darteedna uu Gumeysigii Ingiriiska xabsiga u taxaabay sanadku markuu ahaa 1949-kii.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1950-kii wuxuu nasiib u yeeshay inuu ka mid noqdo Guddigii Arrimaha Bulshada ee Ururka SYL, waxaana xusid mudan in sanadkii 1954-kii uu ka mid noqday Golahii Dhexe ee SYL xilligaas oo ku beegnaa markii uu Cabdullaahi Ciise madaxda ka ahaa dowladdii daakhiliyada.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1963-kii wuxuu Cumar Istarliin doorasho dimoqraadi ah ku soo galay Golahii Shacabka ee deegaanka Xamar isagoo ka soo galay xisbigii Leegada ee uu ku jirey.

10-kii Bishii Febraayo sanadkii 1966-kii wuxuu ku guuleystay doorashadii Duq Magaalo Muqdisho, isagoo muddadii uu xilkaas hayey Magaalada ka qabtay howlo waxtar u leh bulshada Soomaaliyeed sida ceelal uu sameeyey, dhismayaal kala duwan sida jidad ay ka mid yihiin Waddada Via Makka al Mukarrama, Janaraal Da’uud iyo kuwo kale, waxaa kale oo si weyn loogu xusuustaa cabbirkiisii dhul ee loo yiqiin Cabbirka Cumar Istarliin oo dhammaa 30X20 Mitir.

Bishii Maarso ee sandkii 1969-kii ayuu si dimoqraadi ah isaga wareejiyey xilkii duq Magaalo, dabadeedna wuxuu dadaal u galay inuu soo galo isuna soo sharraxo xubin baarlamaanka, nasiib darro lix bilood kadib ayaa isaga oo ka maqan xafiiskiisa waxaa dalka ka dhacay Afgebigii uu talada dalka kula wareegay Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre, waana la xiray markaas Cumar Istarliin wuxuuna xabsiga ku jirey muddo saddex bil ah, isagoo lagala wareegay hanti gaar ahaaneed oo uu lahaa.

Bishii Oktoobar sanadkii 1972-kii Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad ayaa Cumar Istarliin u musaafuriyey dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudi Carabiya iyadoo laga baqayey inuu ku lug yeesho dhaqdhaqaaqyo siyaasadeed oo lagaga soo horjeesto Macallinkii Kacaanka.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1978-kii cumar Istarliin wuxuu taageeray jabhaddi SSDF, xubin buuxda ayuuna ka noqday, wuxuuna la garab istaagay taageero hiil iyo hooba leh, markaas ayaa Siyaad Barre wuxuu maleegay shirqool uu la kaashaday madaxda Sacuudiga, lidna ku ahaa Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno kale, waxayna Boqortooyadii sacuudiga dalkeeda ka soo masaafurisay Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno uu ka mid ahaa Dr.Xasan Cali Mire, waxaana loo soo masaafuriyey dalka Kenya, iyadoo wixii markaas ka dambeeyeyna uu Cumar Istarliin ku noolaa dalkaas.

Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.

1968 the population had doubled to 204,000 and it reached 255,000 by 1970. From then on, natural disasters, wars and lack of planning have driven ever larger groups of families with no resources whatsoever into ‘parasitic’ immigration. The annual rate of population growth in the outskirts of Mogadishu is over 10%, with accompanying problems of congestion, lack of services and lack of hygiene. One of the first problems facing the revolutionary government installed at the end of 1969 was ensuring the orderly planned development of the capital. In 1970, the area occupied by permanent and temporary buildings, legal and illeg­al, was about 1,500 hectares. We can estimate that this is now in the region of 7,000 to 8,000. However, it is impossible to carry out a census of the nomadic families which are continually arriving and settling at the extreme edge in their traditional huts, known as aqal. Accord­ing to the 1970 census, there were about 10,000 permanent masonry dwellings in Muqdisho, inhabited by 74,000 persons, and almost 20,000 temporary dwellings (including the shanties, but not the noma­dic aqal), inhabited by 149,000 persons.

I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

I’ve said it before he wants to turn raxanweyn attention away from gedo. Every single degmo in gedo is disputed. There is a long night in hell coming for marexaan.

This is Mx for you. They like to claim places and states and areas where they have no business in.

Now they are talking about xamar. The audacity.....

[dalalos101]

I was just doing kaftan with Xamar unuka leh, I already knew Adan Low was on it, he had a massive villa in Mogadishu at the time, it completely went passed me the Digil and Mirifle had reps much less a huge portion, Digil and Mirifle the giant that sleeps, tolloow marke soo kacaan xamar af maymay baa looga heesaya.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

By the way no one has ever said Darod or Marehan were ever majority or the most sizable presence of Benadir.

If we don't say that even under the Kacaan, what makes you think we would any other time?

However the Marehan on the Council does represent that Marehan have always had a presence especially in the city center and the elite/influencers.

Also knowing Somalis, I am not saying Marehan is elite to anyone; I am saying Benador was not the degaan of Marehan, so the only Marehan that would be there isn't our average joe, but the person who had DAN/INTEREST there so intellectuals/ilbax, etc

Whereas for example, Abgaal may be miscounted in the "city" when really Abgaal was based from Casa Populare (originally the shantytown housing the workers from neighboring clans) to Warsheikh to the northern beach.

So of course Abgal was very sizable in periphery of Mogadishu as a clan.

Whereas the Marehan seat there is important to represent the reer Aw-Maxamuuds, the reer Farmaajo, the Haji Xaashi, the reer Abdulle Hassans, the reer Jaamac Juges, the reer Xaashi Xaashi Daroods, the reer Biixi Ilaawes, etc.

The Marehan families whose sons ended up writing the Somali language, taking over Isbitaal Martiino, printing the first magazines, in 1960. etc.

Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.

From 1962, the United Nations has financed a pilot project for the construction of cheap housing (guriyaha giimaha jaban), at a total cost of US$120,000, co-financed by the Somali government. In 1965 the National Housing Agency (NHA) was created, and a compound of 55 apartment buildings of cheap dwellings (Case Popolari) was constructed west of Muqdisho, between 1965 and 1972. One project of ‘urbanized plots’ was also realized when the NHA parcelled out and equipped 215 plots, selling them for a ‘political price’ of about US$1 per square metre.

Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.

Cumar Istarliin wuxuu sanadkii 1928-kii uu ku dhashay Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Soomaaliya, waxbarashadiisa aasaasiga ahna wuxuu ku qaatay Magaalada Muqdisho, isagoo ka soo qalin jebiyey dugsigii siyaasadda.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1947-kii Cumar Istarliin wuxuu ku biiray Ururkii Dhallinyarada ee SYL, iyadoo daacadnimada halgankiisa darteedna uu Gumeysigii Ingiriiska xabsiga u taxaabay sanadku markuu ahaa 1949-kii.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1950-kii wuxuu nasiib u yeeshay inuu ka mid noqdo Guddigii Arrimaha Bulshada ee Ururka SYL, waxaana xusid mudan in sanadkii 1954-kii uu ka mid noqday Golahii Dhexe ee SYL xilligaas oo ku beegnaa markii uu Cabdullaahi Ciise madaxda ka ahaa dowladdii daakhiliyada.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1963-kii wuxuu Cumar Istarliin doorasho dimoqraadi ah ku soo galay Golahii Shacabka ee deegaanka Xamar isagoo ka soo galay xisbigii Leegada ee uu ku jirey.

10-kii Bishii Febraayo sanadkii 1966-kii wuxuu ku guuleystay doorashadii Duq Magaalo Muqdisho, isagoo muddadii uu xilkaas hayey Magaalada ka qabtay howlo waxtar u leh bulshada Soomaaliyeed sida ceelal uu sameeyey, dhismayaal kala duwan sida jidad ay ka mid yihiin Waddada Via Makka al Mukarrama, Janaraal Da’uud iyo kuwo kale, waxaa kale oo si weyn loogu xusuustaa cabbirkiisii dhul ee loo yiqiin Cabbirka Cumar Istarliin oo dhammaa 30X20 Mitir.

Bishii Maarso ee sandkii 1969-kii ayuu si dimoqraadi ah isaga wareejiyey xilkii duq Magaalo, dabadeedna wuxuu dadaal u galay inuu soo galo isuna soo sharraxo xubin baarlamaanka, nasiib darro lix bilood kadib ayaa isaga oo ka maqan xafiiskiisa waxaa dalka ka dhacay Afgebigii uu talada dalka kula wareegay Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre, waana la xiray markaas Cumar Istarliin wuxuuna xabsiga ku jirey muddo saddex bil ah, isagoo lagala wareegay hanti gaar ahaaneed oo uu lahaa.

Bishii Oktoobar sanadkii 1972-kii Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad ayaa Cumar Istarliin u musaafuriyey dalka Boqortooyada Sacuudi Carabiya iyadoo laga baqayey inuu ku lug yeesho dhaqdhaqaaqyo siyaasadeed oo lagaga soo horjeesto Macallinkii Kacaanka.

Sanadku markuu ahaa 1978-kii cumar Istarliin wuxuu taageeray jabhaddi SSDF, xubin buuxda ayuuna ka noqday, wuxuuna la garab istaagay taageero hiil iyo hooba leh, markaas ayaa Siyaad Barre wuxuu maleegay shirqool uu la kaashaday madaxda Sacuudiga, lidna ku ahaa Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno kale, waxayna Boqortooyadii sacuudiga dalkeeda ka soo masaafurisay Cumar Istarliin iyo xubno uu ka mid ahaa Dr.Xasan Cali Mire, waxaana loo soo masaafuriyey dalka Kenya, iyadoo wixii markaas ka dambeeyeyna uu Cumar Istarliin ku noolaa dalkaas.

Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.

1968 the population had doubled to 204,000 and it reached 255,000 by 1970. From then on, natural disasters, wars and lack of planning have driven ever larger groups of families with no resources whatsoever into ‘parasitic’ immigration. The annual rate of population growth in the outskirts of Mogadishu is over 10%, with accompanying problems of congestion, lack of services and lack of hygiene. One of the first problems facing the revolutionary government installed at the end of 1969 was ensuring the orderly planned development of the capital. In 1970, the area occupied by permanent and temporary buildings, legal and illeg­al, was about 1,500 hectares. We can estimate that this is now in the region of 7,000 to 8,000. However, it is impossible to carry out a census of the nomadic families which are continually arriving and settling at the extreme edge in their traditional huts, known as aqal. Accord­ing to the 1970 census, there were about 10,000 permanent masonry dwellings in Muqdisho, inhabited by 74,000 persons, and almost 20,000 temporary dwellings (including the shanties, but not the noma­dic aqal), inhabited by 149,000 persons.

I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

I’ve said it before he wants to turn raxanweyn attention away from gedo. Every single degmo in gedo is disputed. There is a long night in hell coming for marexaan.

Gedo is ours sxb. Why you obsessed with degaans that aren't yours? Worry about Somaliland. Jubbaland rag ba leh. Laangaab ba tahay.

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Lol are you telling me Abgaals came to Muqdisho with casa popolare? Casa popolare a housing project iniated by UN and NHA(national housing agency) an instution founded by Aden Cadde. Wich built 55 apartments at what is today Central Muqdisho. A project iniated in early 60s.



Linking Abgaal arrival to Muqdisho to casa popolare is new mental gymnastics wlh. The housing project was iniated to accommodate the influx of people from Banaadir region mainly Abgaal(mainly Agoonyar, Kabaale, Dauud and Warsangeli), Biimaal and Begedi(Digil).
Haba ka hadlin Galmaax Wacbuudhan whomes ancestral land 90% of todays Muqdisho is built on.

These are just a few who came to mind from beesha Galmaax. Who were born in Muqdisho long before any Mareexaan or Daarood even saw the city.

Member of SYL, Mayor of Muqdisho, the guy who started the Manifesto group. AUN Mudane Cumar Istarliin. Born in Xamar in 1928. Casa popolare kulahaa.



Another Galmaax guy that immediatly comes to mind and who was born in Muqdisho long before Casa Popolare is former PM Nur Cadde AUN. Who was born in Xamar 1938.

As what comes to elite base iyo other xaar you spewd, wlh one small sub clan of Suul Harti called Cabdalla Caroone had more clout in Muqdisho than Mareexaan. Let alone Abgaal as a clan in 1960s. The first certified Somali eye surgeon, at Martini and later on at Digfer Hospital Cali Cabdulle Macallin (Cabdalle Caroone), The guy who wrote the first Somali constitution and one of the very first Somali with a degree in Law. Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow(married to educated Gaaljecel lady) also Cabdalle Caroone. The first Somali director of degadda Muqdisho(forgot his name) was also Cabdalla Caroone married to Eybekergaab(Waceysle) ditoresa who was for over a decade the head of vaccination programs in Somalia. I'd post pictures of all of them but just don't know how on this site.

HSM sending his condolonces to Maxamed Sheikh Gabyow.
https://goobjoog.com/madaxweyne-xasan- ... v-gabyow/
Here is the picture of Mudane Gabyow AUN
http://amb-duceysane.blogspot.com/2016 ... .html?m=1

The funny thing is it's Daaroods who came to Muqdisho as refugees who made illegal aqal soomaliyyed shanti towns on the outskirt of Muqdisho after abaaraha fomr early seventies to late 80s.


I'm from a family that is 6th generation reer Muqdisho. My immediate family use to give these Daarood refugees, food and clothing wlh some of my family even donated few goofs to them out of Islaannimo. And today the chlidren of the guys who grew up wearing my parents, uncles and aunties old clothes want to tell me the history of my people in my city.


And mudane stop projecting your gariir towards D&M as Mudulood we share dhaqan and history with Digil whome we have been marrying into and from for over 400 years. And as Hawiye(Silcis,Hintire, Ajuuraan, Wadala'an etc.) Share a history close to 700 years with Digil so stop projecting. Its not us who squat on Mirifle land today its you squatter jeberties in Gedo and Jubbooyinka and its you who are going to suffer the slow death you so fondly speak of.

I’ve said it before he wants to turn raxanweyn attention away from gedo. Every single degmo in gedo is disputed. There is a long night in hell coming for marexaan.

Gedo is ours sxb. Why you obsessed with degaans that aren't yours? Worry about Somaliland. Jubbaland rag ba leh. Laangaab ba tahay.

Laantayda inay gaabantahay iyo in kale waad ogaandonta. Konfuur Galbeed waxay noqonaysa konfuur Galbeed.