cross state clan

[sahal80]

Many would argue that our Gaaljecel brothers are from hiiraan they dont know that they r more concentrated on the two shabelle than hiiraan and then you have jubooyinka. so if we put them in particular order this is how it goes; shabeelooyinka, Hiiraan, Jubooyinka. take example Gaaljecel can blockade the passage and the road between afgooye and buurhakaba and now their macawisley have surrounded this territory in lower shabelle so the KG admin is calling them isbaaro. but the road between jowhar and baladweyne is hawadle no Gaaljecel presence there. this Gaaljecel guy Turwaaq is (famous in twitter with many alias like tuug sharafleh and maybe he is some here dont wanna state his name)expresses territorial claims from baladweyne to near qoryooley. Gaaljecel remind me the stateless arab bedouins in the gulf countries, Jordan, egypt and Palestinian. do you guys know that the famous Egyptian singer umm kulthum is from the marginilized bedouin who are stateless? they love israel more than egypt they live in sinai bc of they they r treated in egypt. . in the gulf countries they r known as withouts. jinsiyada kuwait iyo sacuudiga lama siiyo dadka baadiyaha degan waxaa la siiyaa dadkii 70s ka ka hor magaalooyinka deganaa. xaqiiqa dulmi wayn aa ki jira carabta looma ogola inay shaqeeyaan waa dhul ay ku noolaayeen more than 1000 years. what is the excuse? inay xuduudaha ay iska gudbaan depanding on the season maadama ay xoola dhaqato yihiin so they could be from qatar or bahrain or iraq or oman bla bla

Gaaljecelka somaliya ay ku noolyihiin inlastoo saransoor dego kenya iyo itoobiya(degodia iyo massare) laakin let us focus on gaaljecel the eelaays want to sack them "from their territory"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedouin

hawadle from buurana speaking af abgaal.



gaaljecel dont live close to the jowhar hiiraan highway its west is hawadle mainly followed by baadicade and the north is jijeele. in lower shabelle there is more garre than gaaljecel in that map and shanta caleemo(eelaay) but gaaljecel geel are well spread into this region. towns in lower shabelle; leego and yaaqbariwayne are mainly gaaljecel. jowhar is close to them so if anily thing happens we may see some influx and migration to jowhar.



buurane 26km from jowhar on the road between mahaday and jowhar is hawadle. look dabeyley how close to jowhar its west of jowhar that is hawadle look dhurwayle that is hawadle

https://www.floodmap.net/Elevation/Elev ... z=63622_12

Gaaljecel macawisley in the road between buurhakabo and afgooye/walawayn

[Mk777]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

Sxb tolka should focus on jubboyinka. Relocate to LS and Jubbas. We need you guys there.

[Osob101]

Arooye Sahaloow

Do you want the truth or calcaal? The reality is that Galjecel are a sub-clan of gungdhabe which are clearly a substantial population in Hiiraan so don’t play the game here and equate Xawadle to Galjecel unless you want to be seen as a langaab. As for you little shabeeloyinka, just say it, you believe they should come after middle shabeele. Like it or not Hiiraan is shared and others will have a say in it, otherwise use your Muscles like we did

FYI this is an internal Reer Hirshabeele so warning to Ilmo cheese Stay out of this because am sure they will come out soon attacking Sahal , STAY OUT OF THIS

[sahal80]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

sxb this is informative thread NOT political

as you know buuloburde is in the west of the river and its only hawadle and baadicade and ayle/jareer. gaaljecel live in tuulooyinka as degmo
baadicade own village is buurwayn on the buuloburde road midway to jalalaqsi so they r island in this hawadle road. once you read jalalaqsi, its west up to 10km from the highway there is jibileey the border between baadicade and and gaaljecel. fiidow is hawadle and baadicade, kanalka shiinaha and beerta cali ganeey is hawadle. west of the road10 km is shaw of gaalgecel. after mahaday the road goes through west of the river. mahaday is not on the road its in east of the river jid yar aa ku leexanaya as you can see from the map and abgaal r on the east of the river until after jowhar all the way to balcad they r found in west of the river like qalimow and hawaldley (mainly mobileen cusman with some isolated hawadle)

hawadle are spread on the road till buurane this is 80% and banaanay and west of the road dhurwayle and dabayley west of jowhar. yes there r gugundhabe in buurane but they r not much found. the r found in the hinterland of the west side like dhiingaras. after hawadle clash with mohamed dheere in jowhar and mahaday they established themselves in buurane outside of jowhar so gaaljecel were avoiding them as heavely armed group. all hawadles migrated from the east side and mahaday to this place. thanks mohamed dheere we moved closer to jowhar from the west side! very smart to find a place between abgaal and gaaljecel.

look banaanay madax jowhar this is the village hawadle odey in cccsh link was talking about. that makes all the road from jowhar to baladweyne hawadle. Jowhar is the xuduud between abgaal gaaljecel and hawadle but before you reach jowhar like 5 km hawadle is between the two.





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ثالثا-جللقسى

تعتبر مدينة جللقسى من أهم المدن فى اقليم هيران، وتمتاز بالأراضى الزراعية الواسعة،ومن  القبائل القاطنة فى جللقسى:

قبيلة حودلى، جالجعل،وباداعدى،وجرير وينى.

ومن أهم المدن فيها:

1-تردو2- عيل قريالى، 3- أفعد  ويسكنها قبائل حوادلى.
these r hawadle in jalaqsi district
3- شو 4- بور وين 5-جبلي 6-بلال.

3-bilal, 4-shaw,5 buurwayn,jibilay 6
the 5(jibilay) is shared by gaaljexel and baadicade buurwayn is for baadicade, shaw and bilal gaaljecel
يذكر ان القرى الثالثة ،والسادسة،والخامسة،خاصة لقبيلة جالجعيل،بينما الخامسة مشتركة بين قبيلتى جالجعل وبادعدى،والرابعة خاصة بقبيلة بادعدى





ومن القرى أيضا التالبعة لمهداي –بورنى ، فيدو، قرع مدوبى ،،وبها أكبر سوق للمواشي فى الإقليم،وهو السوق المعروف بسوق الجمعة

mahaday; buurane and fiidow shared by hawadle(there is reason he put hawadle first means majority like he put gaaljecel first in jibiley as majority))gaaljecel and baadicade

والقرى الأربعة الأولى يسكنها فروع من قبيلة ابغال،

بينما بورنى وفيدو مشتركة بين قبائل حوادلى، وجالجعل،وبادعدى
http://mogadishucenter.com/2015/09/%D8% ... 86-%D9%88/

[sahal80]

Arooye Sahaloow

Do you want the truth or calcaal? The reality is that Galjecel are a sub-clan of gungdhabe which are clearly a substantial population in Hiiraan so don’t play the game here and equate Xawadle to Galjecel unless you want to be seen as a langaab. As for you little shabeeloyinka, just say it, you believe they should come after middle shabeele. Like it or not Hiiraan is shared and others will have a say in it, otherwise use your Muscles like we did

FYI this is an internal Reer Hirshabeele so warning to Ilmo cheese Stay out of this because am sure they will come out soon attacking Sahal , STAY OUT OF THIS

Ya ustada the road im talking about is the jowhar-jalaqsi one. i was saying qoraxsin state map doesnt imclude the road all the way to jowhar. yes its qoraxsin of the river but starting from baladweyne like buundowayn and buuloburde hawadle live in the western area adjacent to the river and the road wich i call it urbanic qoraxsin. the rural is gaaljecel.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

Sxb tolka should focus on jubboyinka. Relocate to LS and Jubbas. We need you guys there.

As long I am in Gedo as the military power of MX and Darood. This will NEVER happen. Ramadan Mubarak sxb. Continue your internal Hirshabelle matters. Carry on.

[Mk777]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

Sxb tolka should focus on jubboyinka. Relocate to LS and Jubbas. We need you guys there.

Lol some of our men claim harti there kkkk. We have two degmos berxaani and raaskamboni. Cabdalla biroole is named after our son (he is still alive) and it is in the hand of cawrmale. I heard even the men fighting the cawrmale are gaaljecel who claim harti. Is there anything more pathetic than someone claiming another mans lineage? It is one of the worst thing someone can do. We have a few boys in the JL army, they gave us the airport governor of lower Jubba the agaasimaha JL tv etc but of course it is decoration the state is in the hand of the OG man.

Madoobe is facing some problems himself internally I believe u see his high profile “wadani” fan ilkacase he left his adeer as he believes he bullied the cawlyahan men into signing contracts. He is pro N&N now although I’m sure it’s to do with his own interests not somaliweyn
I also am wary of the isbadaldoon we have a few guys like Yusuf afey they’ll probably get us 5-10 more MPs but they’ll switch OG hegemony for MX. I don’t see the difference. I believe our answer lies at the root of the problem, Kenya.


We have men in the army this general is masare. Why not use there influence to further our interest in Juba land? Is there more OG than degodia&Garre in Kenya? Of course not

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

Sxb tolka should focus on jubboyinka. Relocate to LS and Jubbas. We need you guys there.

Lol some of our men claim harti there kkkk. We have two degmos berxaani and raaskamboni. Cabdalla biroole is named after our son (he is still alive) and it is in the hand of cawrmale. I heard even the men fighting the cawrmale are gaaljecel who claim harti. Is there anything more pathetic than someone claiming another mans lineage? It is one of the worst thing someone can do. We have a few boys in the JL army, they gave us the airport governor of lower Jubba the agaasimaha JL tv etc but of course it is decoration the state is in the hand of the OG man.

Madoobe is facing some problems himself internally I believe u see his high profile “wadani” fan ilkacase he left his adeer as he believes he bullied the cawlyahan men into signing contracts. He is pro N&N now although I’m sure it’s to do with his own interests not somaliweyn
I also am wary of the isbadaldoon we have a few guys like Yusuf afey they’ll probably get us 5-10 more MPs but they’ll switch OG hegemony for MX. I don’t see the difference. I believe our answer lies at the root of the problem, Kenya.


We have men in the army this general is masare. Why not use there influence to further our interest in Juba land? Is there more OG than degodia&Garre in Kenya? Of course not

Jubbaland will never be a HAG state. Get your rights from your brothers instead. You'll get improvements in rights but you aren't the majority in the state.

[Mk777]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

sxb this is informative thread NOT political

as you know buuloburde is in the west of the river and its only hawadle and baadicade and ayle/jareer. gaaljecel live in tuulooyinka as degmo
baadicade own village is buurwayn on the buuloburde road midway to jalalaqsi so they r island in this hawadle road. once you read jalalaqsi, its west up to 10km from the highway there is jibileey the border between baadicade and and gaaljecel. fiidow is hawadle and baadicade, kanalka shiinaha and beerta cali ganeey is hawadle. west of the road10 km is shaw of gaalgecel. after mahaday the road goes through west of the river. mahaday is not on the road its in east of the river jid yar aa ku leexanaya as you can see from the map and abgaal r on the east of the river until after jowhar all the way to balcad they r found in west of the river like qalimow and hawaldley (mainly mobileen cusman with some isolated hawadle)

hawadle are spread on the road till buurane this is 80% and banaanay and west of the road dhurwayle and dabayley west of jowhar. yes there r gugundhabe in buurane but they r not much found. the r found in the hinterland of the west side like dhiingaras. after hawadle clash with mohamed dheere in jowhar and mahaday they established themselves in buurane outside of jowhar so gaaljecel were avoiding them as heavely armed group. all hawadles migrated from the east side and mahaday to this place. thanks mohamed dheere we moved closer to jowhar from the west side! very smart to find a place between abgaal and gaaljecel.

look banaanay madax jowhar this is the village hawadle odey in cccsh link was talking about. that makes all the road from jowhar to baladweyne hawadle. Jowhar is the xuduud between abgaal gaaljecel and hawadle but before you reach jowhar like 5 km hawadle is between the two.





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ثالثا-جللقسى

تعتبر مدينة جللقسى من أهم المدن فى اقليم هيران، وتمتاز بالأراضى الزراعية الواسعة،ومن  القبائل القاطنة فى جللقسى:

قبيلة حودلى، جالجعل،وباداعدى،وجرير وينى.

ومن أهم المدن فيها:

1-تردو2- عيل قريالى، 3- أفعد  ويسكنها قبائل حوادلى.
these r hawadle in jalaqsi district
3- شو 4- بور وين 5-جبلي 6-بلال.

3-bilal, 4-shaw,5 buurwayn,jibilay 6
the 5(jibilay) is shared by gaaljexel and baadicade buurwayn is for baadicade, shaw and bilal gaaljecel
يذكر ان القرى الثالثة ،والسادسة،والخامسة،خاصة لقبيلة جالجعيل،بينما الخامسة مشتركة بين قبيلتى جالجعل وبادعدى،والرابعة خاصة بقبيلة بادعدى





ومن القرى أيضا التالبعة لمهداي –بورنى ، فيدو، قرع مدوبى ،،وبها أكبر سوق للمواشي فى الإقليم،وهو السوق المعروف بسوق الجمعة

mahaday; buurane and fiidow shared by hawadle(there is reason he put hawadle first means majority like he put gaaljecel first in jibiley as majority))gaaljecel and baadicade

والقرى الأربعة الأولى يسكنها فروع من قبيلة ابغال،

بينما بورنى وفيدو مشتركة بين قبائل حوادلى، وجالجعل،وبادعدى
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Kkk sxb if baadicade let u move with them it is a problem for them later on not me. We had geels not farms we don’t live near the river generally. This is changing now tho lol our geeleys like malaay now no more hilib geel.If I was like them Cali madaxweyne would have eaten me up long time ago in beledweyne. They made a mistake they will pay for dearly. Jijeele I heard are doing the same now with the cabdalla due to internal problem within u near shanta dabakayoWe have got on well with your cabdalla but still it is their problem they can’t come to our land south of farlibax

[sahal80]

Gaaljecel and cawramala need to to make a choice between 3 opitions ; get ready to be red indians some thing Saddam suggests to you all darods r same. this means to give up your land like what is happening to cawramale. 2- assimilated by Harti darod. 3 relocate to north of Kismaayo around 30km then you will be in a Samaale and sheekhal and dir and eelaay majority area between kismaayo, jilib and jamaame and behind you barawe and sablale of HG .

Hawadle were living in Gedo before 1992 but for fear of repression after USC... we relocated to Ethiopia and joined our adeero in filtu(cali gumar) the rest moved to Xamar and jilib. my Cabdi Yusuf who moved from gedo to Ethiopia(dolow cade) and then moved futher and settled with reer baare and jiidle and baajimaal in this baare district very close to mustaxiil. a year ago we brought nabadoon from baare originally from gedo to baladweyne to look after beesha. baare is more fertile land and in the future we could connect it to mustahil. caqligiina waa inaad ka shaqaysaan.

harti man claiming gaaljecel ahmed adan from raskambooni as part of osman mohamud("bah hareen"). at 21:42




in my previous post i was talking about how we carved out a place between gaaljecel and abgaal in jowhar. before mohamed dheere Jowhar and mahadaay were a mix every body had militias and we were isolated in jowhar unlike of gaaljecel now were r connected to hiiraan from west of jowhar. we moved all to this side.

this is how we moved from the airport and settled between hodan and wadajir(abgaal on the other side of wadajir road ex jaale siyaad and HG near siliga maraykanka. we have gudoomiye ky xigeenka wadajir iyo gudoomiyaha dharkeenley.

our area is waax(sub district) its called nasteexo
http://wikimapia.org/31966353/xaafada-nasteexo

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gaaljecel and cawramala need to to make a choice between 3 opitions ; get ready to be red indians some thing Saddam suggests to you all darods r same. this means to give up your land like what is happening to cawramale. 2- assimilated by Harti darod. 3 relocate to north of Kismaayo around 30km then you will be in a Samaale and sheekhal and dir and eelaay majority area between kismaayo, jilib and jamaame and behind you barawe and sablale of HG .

Hawadle were living in Gedo before 1992 but for fear of repression after USC... we relocated to Ethiopia and joined our adeero in filtu(cali gumar) the rest moved to Xamar and jilib. my Cabdi Yusuf who moved from gedo to Ethiopia(dolow cade) and then moved futher and settled with reer baare and jiidle and baajimaal in this baare district very close to mustaxiil. a year ago we brought nabadoon from baare originally from gedo to baladweyne to look after beesha. baare is more fertile land and in the future we could connect it to mustahil. caqligiina waa inaad ka shaqaysaan.

harti man claiming gaaljecel ahmed adan from raskambooni as part of osman mohamud. at 21:42




in my previous post i was talking about how we carved out a place between gaaljecel and abgaal in jowhar. before mohamed dheere Jowhar and mahadaay were a mix every body had militias and we were isolated in jowhar unlike of gaaljecel now were r connected to hiiraan

this is how we moved from the airport and settled between hodan and wadajir(abgaal on the other side of wadajir road ex jaale siyaad and HG near siliga maraykanka. we have gudoomiye ky xigeenka wadajir iyo gudoomiyaha dharkeenley.

our area is waax(sub district) its called nasteexo
http://wikimapia.org/31966353/xaafada-nasteexo

Why are you against Gaaljecal exerting their rights in Hirshabelle? That indicates to me your laangaabnimo. Xawaadle were never in Gedo nor mentioned in any sources we have. If they are there. They are laangaabs. They aren't a factor. You are insecure about your position as Madaxweyne due to the fact Abgaal will contest the presidency at some point and Gaaljecal asserting their rights. MX nor Darood have nothing to do with this. You can't pull the Samaale card. That's what laangaabs in Darood do who pull the Darood card. You look like a weak laangaab whose in need of isbahysi to handle your beefs. You look weak and fragile from a outsider's perspective imo. Stick to the subject. This between Reer Hirshabelle. Not Jubbaland.

[Starabdi]

kkkkkk where do I start sxb.

Horta Our land is wide and vast this is a blessing from Allah almighty. From howlwadag ila luuq jeelow and durdur on the river ila buuro eyle to west ila just south of ras kamboni. You should not mistake politics with population sxb.

Anyways the problem with KGS is simple. All neighbours fight naturally but imagine i tell u you are not from this land at all this land is hubeers go back to hirshabelle! That is the problem facing reer shabeelaha hoose. it is a plan to take us out of this strategic location. The nabadoons and some influential maay people have this idea that all 6 gobols KGS + both Jubbas and gedo belongs to reer maay.
As for the map I have the same ideology I believe the only man who lives significantly in both regions (shabellada dhexe, beledweyne) in both capitals and is majority of the population overall and accepts third place is cursed. I’m happy to see others share the same opinion.
As for your laughable claim we are not found on the road tell me who lives in jimbiley and bilaal both on the road to jowhar Fiidow, kiliga shiinaha are all mixed hawiye populations.

The problem we face is leadership and every man looking at what his brother has etc. We have 5 seats we sold 2. ABG and XL has 2 seats in the parliment we were supposed to have 2 we sold one.
Our reer Bari neighbours do better than us they have strong leadership and they are all concentrated in one area.

I respect the shiiqaal look at them in raaso now no one can touch them. This is because they made the decision in the early 1990s either we get eaten up by others or we all settle in one area. Same thing they did in xamar (kaxda district).

Sxb tolka should focus on jubboyinka. Relocate to LS and Jubbas. We need you guys there.

Lol some of our men claim harti there kkkk. We have two degmos berxaani and raaskamboni. Cabdalla biroole is named after our son (he is still alive) and it is in the hand of cawrmale. I heard even the men fighting the cawrmale are gaaljecel who claim harti. Is there anything more pathetic than someone claiming another mans lineage? It is one of the worst thing someone can do. We have a few boys in the JL army, they gave us the airport governor of lower Jubba the agaasimaha JL tv etc but of course it is decoration the state is in the hand of the OG man.

Madoobe is facing some problems himself internally I believe u see his high profile “wadani” fan ilkacase he left his adeer as he believes he bullied the cawlyahan men into signing contracts. He is pro N&N now although I’m sure it’s to do with his own interests not somaliweyn
I also am wary of the isbadaldoon we have a few guys like Yusuf afey they’ll probably get us 5-10 more MPs but they’ll switch OG hegemony for MX. I don’t see the difference. I believe our answer lies at the root of the problem, Kenya.


We have men in the army this general is masare. Why not use there influence to further our interest in Juba land? Is there more OG than degodia&Garre in Kenya? Of course not

Hey Hey stop!!!!!!!!!
Beesha Saransoor(Galjacel) are our neighbor, they are good neighbors, we love them. Cawarmale are Maxamuud Harti(Cusmaan Ibrahim, Warsangali). This unfortunate fight is in between Maxamuud Harti and Maxamed Harti and now stopped, hopefully that will be end of it.
PLease stop claiming other people, Harti people as Sarannsoor/Galjecel, that is ridicules!!!.
Beesha Saransoor are good friend of Harti, we respect them.

[sahal80]

Why are you against Gaaljecal exerting their rights in Hirshabelle? That indicates to me your laangaabnimo. Xawaadle were never in Gedo nor mentioned in any sources we have. If they are there. They are laangaabs. They aren't a factor. You are insecure about your position as Madaxweyne due to the fact Abgaal will contest the presidency at some point and Gaaljecal asserting their rights. MX nor Darood have nothing to do with this. You can't pull the Samaale card. That's what laangaabs in Darood do who pull the Darood card. You look like a weak laangaab whose in need of isbahysi to handle your beefs. You look weak and fragile from a outsider's perspective imo. Stick to the subject. This between Reer Hirshabelle. Not Jubbaland.

mr laandheere waa ramadam ee iga qalee. aniga waxaan ka hadlooyaa conflict resolution. sheekhaasha aw qudub waxay dhex degi jireen OG hardly to see Aw qudub with no OG blood gabdhaha OG aa la siin jiray as culimo im ikhwan and i know them well. after this deegaan stuff and representation they told them your r f-king guests. when day the sheekhal decided to leave the OG towns and move to the promised land of Raso this is close to bale zone they even want to join oromia and leave the somali region. Abdi iley played divide and conquer tactics to divide them so he was appointing laangaab jufo for Raso it caused big war among aw qudub themselves that even divided al islax movement into two groups laangaab vs laandgeere this is how Damjadeed(reerow hassan and hiraab) took over them. leader of al islax sh waxaa la dhihi jiray sh garyare wuxuu la saftey jufadii laangaabta ee uu ka soo jeeday waxaa xilkii ka qaadey nufadii laandheerta ooy ka soo jeedeen kuwa iskaleh mogadishu university sida dr ali baashi, dr ali dheere, dr dasuuqi, sheikh qudubi asagana wuu ka qaadey ayaga labadaas garab ayay ilaa hada kala yiihiin waa daciifeen. ileey saasuu shiikhaal ukala jabiyay.

hada laandhertii aa soo noqotey oo xulufo la ah dirta iyo isaaqa iyo oromada oo shafka garaaceysa

hada cawramale iyo gaaljecel waxay u baahan yihiin inay u guuraan dhanka xuduudaha labada jubo the other side of river jubba

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.voas ... 49518.html
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=299763

[Starabdi]

Gaaljecel and cawramala need to to make a choice between 3 opitions ; get ready to be red indians some thing Saddam suggests to you all darods r same. this means to give up your land like what is happening to cawramale. 2- assimilated by Harti darod. 3 relocate to north of Kismaayo around 30km then you will be in a Samaale and sheekhal and dir and eelaay majority area between kismaayo, jilib and jamaame and behind you barawe and sablale of HG .

Hawadle were living in Gedo before 1992 but for fear of repression after USC... we relocated to Ethiopia and joined our adeero in filtu(cali gumar) the rest moved to Xamar and jilib. my Cabdi Yusuf who moved from gedo to Ethiopia(dolow cade) and then moved futher and settled with reer baare and jiidle and baajimaal in this baare district very close to mustaxiil. a year ago we brought nabadoon from baare originally from gedo to baladweyne to look after beesha. baare is more fertile land and in the future we could connect it to mustahil. caqligiina waa inaad ka shaqaysaan.

harti man claiming gaaljecel ahmed adan from raskambooni as part of osman mohamud("bah hareen"). at 21:42




in my previous post i was talking about how we carved out a place between gaaljecel and abgaal in jowhar. before mohamed dheere Jowhar and mahadaay were a mix every body had militias and we were isolated in jowhar unlike of gaaljecel now were r connected to hiiraan from west of jowhar. we moved all to this side.

this is how we moved from the airport and settled between hodan and wadajir(abgaal on the other side of wadajir road ex jaale siyaad and HG near siliga maraykanka. we have gudoomiye ky xigeenka wadajir iyo gudoomiyaha dharkeenley.

our area is waax(sub district) its called nasteexo
http://wikimapia.org/31966353/xaafada-nasteexo

Sahal GREAT ADVICE MAN!!!!!!
and You are right Xawadle Abdi Yusuf used live in Gedo, but Not anymore,
because they sensed a danger and moved to Ethiopia. Xawadle used live Dollow somali and Suufka, which is in between Dollow and Baladxawo Suufka,Also Kenyan side, Ethiopian side and Somali side. If they didn't move,They would have been democide (Genocide)killed all during the civil war. They had wise people.
I would suggest Seronsoor/Galgecel and some of The Carmale, who doen't want be part of Harti to move to 30mile north of Kismaayo.
Anything west of Kismaayo will be Darood, North of Kismaayo will be Shekhaal and Biyomaal Jamaame and GEREER and Galjecel.