3rd Day Of Somalia/Somaliland Talks, Something Cooking?

[gobdoon]

I am worried should so called SL go their separate way, how long before they start fighting among themselves SSC, Gudabirsi, and then Garxajis, even now they are squabbling, so if when they get their wish then would be asking to come back

[original dervish]

I can't see sl being a recognised independent state anytime soon.
However, they can still extract enough concessions from Mogadishu to bolster their claims.

[Murax]

mahoka,

The negotiations are Somalia/Sland not Darood Sland. The ones negotiating from Somali are Hawiyes, .5s etc. I also didn’t say Isaaq don’t live there, but even you acknowledge that other clans live there. Are you 100% sure they would all prefer secession than union? The FGS representation from Sool, Sanaag would be lost in that scenario and they wouldn’t have access to Somali resources. Please lets be reasonable and admit that its a more complicated scenario than Toghdeer, Waqooyi Galbeed, Awdal.

A) I’m just some Faarax from the Internet my opinion doesn’t matter.

B) I’m not from those regions, so I’m not as invested.

Akh, we are all simple, straight firing faraxs online kkk, it’s SL and somalia negotiating but we keep hearing about sool and sanaag so let’s explore some more.

Back to the question, the only reason those two regions are mentioned by darods is because of the sizeable darod community there which is fair. I would understantd the argument for the darod parts of sool and sanaag but the whole gobols kkkk that’s impossible, specially when you make up a minority in one (sanaag) and half of the other. I can assure you the hy, hj and fiqishni In those regions are happy to stay with SL.

I would personally like to negotiate a deal with Somalia in which you guys take the darod parts of sool and sanaag and agree to the divorce, that would save us a lot of hassle, put more pressure on Mogadishu tax payer and certainly make for interesting politics with the hawiye in xamar.

That’s exactly what I was referring a partition of Sool, Sanaag. Isaaq majority towns go to Sland, Harti major majority towns that want to stay Somalia, stay with Somalia. I was just responding to the colonial border which were the entire regions thing I keep hearing. We’re Somalis aan heshiino based on our reality not what some gaal aan xaarka iska dhaqin wrote years ago.

[Samatalis249]

Somaliland will be recognised in the next 5 years max. It’s already un officially recognised but will get dejure recognition in that time. Somalia will not get debt relief and loans without a comprehensive agreement with Somaliland there is a lot of money in the game now. Daroods will try to negotiate there lands out of SL and recognise it in the near future. Somaliland has Taiwan level recognition now and will get Kosovo level recognition with majority of AU states backing it.

[BigBreak]

Somaliland will be recognised in the next 5 years max. It’s already un officially recognised but will get dejure recognition in that time. Somalia will not get debt relief and loans without a comprehensive agreement with Somaliland there is a lot of money in the game now. Daroods will try to negotiate there lands out of SL and recognise it in the near future. Somaliland has Taiwan level recognition now and will get Kosovo level recognition with majority of AU states backing it.

With Kosovo, it is recognised by well over 100 countries as a separate country (including Somalia lol) but it is not part of the UN. The country that claims Kosovo (Serbia) knows that reunification is absolutely impossible yet refuses to concede defeat

Maybe the Kosovo scenario might be replicated in SL

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Somaliland will be recognised in the next 5 years max. It’s already un officially recognised but will get dejure recognition in that time. Somalia will not get debt relief and loans without a compr

Name a Single country which officielly Recognice Somaliland??

[Samatalis249]

Somaliland will be recognised in the next 5 years max. It’s already un officially recognised but will get dejure recognition in that time. Somalia will not get debt relief and loans without a compr

Name a Single country which officielly Recognice Somaliland??

We have intensely lobbied the West African nations. UAE and it’s huwaan like eygpt sudan will also vote for SL in the AU. Once amisom mandate is over Kenya and Uganda ect will recognise SL. Djibouti has also had a change of heart. We need 50% of AU then reer Galbeed will recognise us. We don’t need any ali baystaayn countries to recognise us.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Sxb 30 sano Qof aqoonsatay ma jirto Somaliland.ilama aha next 30 years in la aqoonsan doono Somaliland. ..

[paperino]

Sxb 30 sano Qof aqoonsatay ma jirto Somaliland.ilama aha next 30 years in la aqoonsan doono Somaliland. ..

Only the UK can grant SL ictiraaf, but it's against the very idea. So, instead of wasting another 30 sanno, they should explore something different.

[IRONm@N]

Somaliland has no case because, there is no case of ethnic, language or religion differences, so the world will never take their secession serious. If the world will recognize any region for secession they would long suffering regions who have different ethnic and religion and language from their countries such as the Ogaden of Ethiopia, Kurdish region of Iraq(which fought and help America and genocide happen where illegal nerve gas was used on them by their country

[mahoka]

Sxb 30 sano Qof aqoonsatay ma jirto Somaliland.ilama aha next 30 years in la aqoonsan doono Somaliland. ..

That’s fine, 30 years of no aqoonsi for SL, 30 years of no government, amisom and Ethiopia/Kenyan domination for Somalia. We don’t mind the status quo akh

[mahoka]

Somaliland has no case because, there is no case of ethnic, language or religion differences, so the world will never take their secession serious. If the world will recognize any region for secession they would long suffering regions who have different ethnic and religion and language from their countries such as the Ogaden of Ethiopia, Kurdish region of Iraq(which fought and help America and genocide happen where illegal nerve gas was used on them by their country

Ogadenia wasn’t a nation that united with Ethiopia, eritrea was. Similarly Kurdish region didn’t unite with Iraq but was part of it. We keeping are leaving and taking our Kashmiris (harti) with us

[original dervish]

They are still decades away from independence.....if it ever happens.

This is all about granting sl some benefits and supporting the peace in the north.

[Khalid Ali]

The plan was to meat in 15 days the walanweyn again started delaying. The strategy of the walanweyn is always re start the talks and restart the process and over and over again and then stall.