Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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To question the existence of Samaale is the height of insanity. Irir Samaale are the overwhelming majority in the Somali peninsula
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BigBreak wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:43 pm To question the existence of Samaale is the height of insanity. Irir Samaale are the overwhelming majority in the Somali peninsula
:lol: only in the mind of hawiye haters for they see a danger in these prehawiye Samaales who r spread across the south. the funny thing the same clans he talks about "being living in Hiiraan also live in lower shabelle and the two jubbas even Cawramale(whom i dont like them for being confused by the warsangali daarood though recently they noined a war with mj against them)joined the USC when it from 30 km from Kismaayo an area setlled by harti daarood but its natives r cawramale. this has accelerated the collapse of Kismaajo in the hands of HG and Hawadle.

this Samaale aka nomadic stuff was created by their kacaanist psuedo historians for they see a danger in it. we have books dating back to 40s and 50s mentioning Samaale clans besides the Ajuran account.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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sahal80 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:04 pm
BigBreak wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:43 pm To question the existence of Samaale is the height of insanity. Irir Samaale are the overwhelming majority in the Somali peninsula
:lol: only in the mind of hawiye haters for they see a danger in these prehawiye Samaales who r spread across the south. the funny thing the same clans he talks about "being living in Hiiraan also live in lower shabelle and the two jubbas even Cawramale(whom i dont like them for being confused by the warsangali daarood though recently they noined a war with mj against them)joined the USC when it from 30 km from Kismaayo an area setlled by harti daarood but its natives r cawramale. this has accelerated the collapse of Kismaajo in the hands of HG and Hawadle.
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Well said ustaad sahal, Samaale are the majority of Somalia, this is the reason why USC took all over South Somalia so easily because all of Samaale playing their part of USC samaale midnimo, even today Samaale could rule all of Horn Africa if only Hawiye truly united instead of letting jebertis divide and play us against each other like before.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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sahal80 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:04 pm
BigBreak wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:43 pm To question the existence of Samaale is the height of insanity. Irir Samaale are the overwhelming majority in the Somali peninsula
:lol: only in the mind of hawiye haters for they see a danger in these prehawiye Samaales who r spread across the south. the funny thing the same clans he talks about "being living in Hiiraan also live in lower shabelle and the two jubbas even Cawramale(whom i dont like them for being confused by the warsangali daarood though recently they noined a war with mj against them)joined the USC when it from 30 km from Kismaayo an area setlled by harti daarood but its natives r cawramale. this has accelerated the collapse of Kismaajo in the hands of HG and Hawadle.

this Samaale aka nomadic stuff was created by their kacaanist psuedo historians for they see a danger in it. we have books dating back to 40s and 50s mentioning Samaale clans besides the Ajuran account.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Somehow there needs to be some sort of tentative research on the purported 68 IQ pseudo- scientific charge against Somalia.

It is moments like this----where evidence and fact are responded to with resentful base tribal mythmaking in a reductionist fashion---that makes me realize more needs to be done to increase the nurture-based aspect of Somali reasoning skills.
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Re: Lower Shabelle and Banadir should form the 6th and final state

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Btw I will just leave this diagram I made of everything I have learned about the most recent mythmaking of the Somali tribal structurebin the last 150 years.

Quick disclaimers;

1. These relationships may not reflect how some clans view themselves today (for example "Isaaq" may not view themselves as Dir, but during 4.5 the classification of Isaaq as Dir is a mythmaking within past 150 years).
2. These relationships may not represent how some clans view other clans today (for example Garre is either Digil or Hawiye depending non which group you talk bto).
3. Lastly, Darod not being in the diagram reflects only that Darod mythmaking was the only completely institutionalized mythmaking that has remained unchanged in the last 150 years.

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