If Farmaajo treats Janan any differently than Abu Mansuur, I'm OUT, I'M OUT, I'M OUT.

[Gubbet]

The problem here is Saddam thinks this is the first time this happened.

Bro, in thd Al Itihad vs SNF, Marehan did the same fake, ok ok don't it again.

So did Marehan do the same SNF vs SNF.

So did Marehan do in Ethiopia vs Al Itihad vs SNF

And then JVA vs SRRC

Again in Gov/Ahlu Sunnah vs Maxaakiin

Even in Al Shabaab vs Gov

The same lack of accountability and impunity as if these guys just walked from a coffee shop.

When Farmaajo came, his Government acted different.

Since then even defections from Shabaab like Adan Coonbe---there was accountability... Confinement in Xamar.

Not starting accountability and checking impunity is one thing---but to stop doing it FOR POLITICAL REASONS LIKE AN ELECTION once you have started---

----then God damn your election, you do not deserve it.

I am so focking angry right now wallahi if this man escapes accountability.

[Sbashi]

Gubbet, Janan wasn't defeated. He made a deal with Farmaajo. Why should he be treated like abu mansoor who was defeated? The deal could be the reason Janan is treated differently.

[Mustafee101]

Abdirashid Janan is not different from Fartaag, Muuse Suudiyalaxow, Qeybdiid, Mahad Salaad, Morgan, Madoobe, Habeel Finish (the governor of Banadir). Could you tell me one single warlord that got arrested in Somalia?

Don’t include Abu Mansuur and Xasan Aweys who only got arrested because of the US and the EU

[Gubbet]

The day muuse suudi, cabdiqaybdiid are arrested for their war crimes is the day Janan should be arrested. Why is one a xildhibaan and the other a frigging Senator and the other demonized? If yall want justice then let it be for ALL warlords.

It is called "making a choice."

One took his clan's advice and " duco" and move out of the way in Galmudug.

The other one went to a foreign nation and attacked his own people and towns---2X.

Please do not make false equivalences. This is moral weakness.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

The thing that still irks me is Saddam had the nerve to utter "Siad Barre" and them say "I (or rather my views) lost Marehan Kismaayo".

1. Siad Barre would have cut Janan's head with his own sword.

2. What has destroyed Marehan, obliterated Gedo, and wreaked havoc in 30 years is "IMPUNITY" AND "LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY."

"Oh , you ran in to a foreign country, declared war on your people, attacked your own town, killed the people that you said was your tol, and destroyed property and hanti?"

"Oh that's fine, just don't do it again!!"

It is the most insulting irony for someone to write what he wrote to the person who is opposed to that same ole lack of accountability and impunity.

He thinks he is "new" thinking; no he isn't.

Saddam is no different to Adali wallahi.

Ofc Siad Barre would cut his throat. We’ll kill after we’re done using him. He’s a traitor and always will be. Learn the shinobi game. Even the Jaale strategically would agree with me. Grandpa is rubbing it in ur face to piss you off. I’m not. We’re at war. And he holds the key to the secrets of Madobe’s Kismaayo bro. He’s a intelligence asset. Why you think Fahad is coming t BX?

[Mustafee101]

Gubbet, Janan wasn't defeated. He made a deal with Farmaajo. Why should he be treated like abu mansoor who was defeated? The deal could be the reason Janan is treated differently.

And remember Janan only come in because of the elders that begged him. Their excuse was the recent abaar tht took place

[grandpakhalif]

I know where your anger is coming from. But you’re not built for the long haul. Your generation lost Kismaayo and put us through this gunimo. You sound like a privileged kid calacaaling to adeer not seeing the greater objective for us. This is why scholars shouldn’t lead but teach and advise. Young Idajaa leave this to young Siad Barre. Warfare is what I do best Jaale.

Deal is done and dusted Cabdirashiid Janan is back

Him and Cabbas are necessary right now. They are intelligence goldmine. They know where Madobe and his team’s weaknesses are, they know where the bodies are buried especially indhokorey. And plus, Bakool holds more influence anyways. Don’t listen to Atoosh bro. I know the deal. It’s far from that. By end of this bro. He might go down as Beesha’s legend

This is HUGE for Beesha the dude has a charisma and leadership skills that havent been seen amongst Beesha since Baree Hiiraale. Remember it was Janan who cleaned out AS from Dolow all the way to Ceelwaaq. Gaalka dil gartiisna sii his intelligence and experience is needed as LONG as HE IS BEING SUPERVISED by the FGS I see no problem. He has a chance to RESTRUCTURE and Rewrite his legacy.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Deal is done and dusted Cabdirashiid Janan is back

Him and Cabbas are necessary right now. They are intelligence goldmine. They know where Madobe and his team’s weaknesses are, they know where the bodies are buried especially indhokorey. And plus, Bakool holds more influence anyways. Don’t listen to Atoosh bro. I know the deal. It’s far from that. By end of this bro. He might go down as Beesha’s legend

This is HUGE for Beesha the dude has a charisma and leadership skills that havent been seen amongst Beesha since Baree Hiiraale. Remember it was Janan who cleaned out AS from Dolow all the way to Ceelwaaq. Gaalka dil gartiisna sii his intelligence and experience is needed as LONG as HE IS BEING SUPERVISED by the FGS I see no problem. He has a chance to RESTRUCTURE and Rewrite his legacy.

I see big problem bro. Big problem. Voltage is right bro. In the long run this will backfire. My advice to those reading this is to not empower him at all. But neuter him. Him and Abbas should be not be empowered at all but new faces from their clans empowered strategically. Janan isn’t good bro. Moalimu is the future. Not him.

[Gubbet]

Abdirashid Janan is not different from Fartaag, Muuse Suudiyalaxow, Qeybdiid, Mahad Salaad, Morgan, Madoobe, Habeel Finish (the governor of Banadir). Could you tell me one single warlord that got arrested in Somalia?

Don’t include Abu Mansuur and Xasan Aweys who only got arrested because of the US and the EU

See my post above

Waxa kaa dhex guuxayo sxb is qashin for you to deal I have been smelling its stink since the first post you sent me on this issue in the other topic.

I don't care about your "clan" ANYTHING.

Ha sacbiyaan all of them, not a single person missing.

I want to see what the "Government" of Somalia does.

Marehan doesn't love Janan more than Rahanweyn Abu Mansuur.

That's all I want to see.

And I can promise you 100%---Somalis said hal xaaraan ah nirig xalaal ah ma dasho.

Marehan will have another 30 years of the same insecurity if they make a pact with the devil.

Turn the page, follow the path of accountability and breaking impunity.

We aren't talking abouy what was done in the 90's---we are talking about what was done SINCE FARMAAJO GOV BEGIN "ACCOUNTABILITY."

If he deviates, he is a hypocrite.

And Marehan will be the schizophrenic doing the same thing since 1991 expecting a different result.

You can never heal resorting to the same poison.

[grandpakhalif]

Him and Cabbas are necessary right now. They are intelligence goldmine. They know where Madobe and his team’s weaknesses are, they know where the bodies are buried especially indhokorey. And plus, Bakool holds more influence anyways. Don’t listen to Atoosh bro. I know the deal. It’s far from that. By end of this bro. He might go down as Beesha’s legend

This is HUGE for Beesha the dude has a charisma and leadership skills that havent been seen amongst Beesha since Baree Hiiraale. Remember it was Janan who cleaned out AS from Dolow all the way to Ceelwaaq. Gaalka dil gartiisna sii his intelligence and experience is needed as LONG as HE IS BEING SUPERVISED by the FGS I see no problem. He has a chance to RESTRUCTURE and Rewrite his legacy.

I see big problem bro. Big problem. Voltage is right bro. In the long run this will backfire. My advice to those reading this is to not empower him at all. But neuter him. Him and Abbas should be not be empowered at all but new faces from their clans empowered strategically. Janan isn’t good bro. Moalimu is the future. Not him.

Exactly let him be supervised by Moalimu, Bakaal, Buulleey etc. That is what i am advocating for he cannot be independent, but can play a significant role.

[Gubbet]

Gubbet, Janan wasn't defeated. He made a deal with Farmaajo. Why should he be treated like abu mansoor who was defeated? The deal could be the reason Janan is treated differently.

Think about what you wrote Sbashi.

Janan was defeated 2X.

Having a clan with border is now above justice?"

Wallahi billahi my clan waa caadaqaadato.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

This is HUGE for Beesha the dude has a charisma and leadership skills that havent been seen amongst Beesha since Baree Hiiraale. Remember it was Janan who cleaned out AS from Dolow all the way to Ceelwaaq. Gaalka dil gartiisna sii his intelligence and experience is needed as LONG as HE IS BEING SUPERVISED by the FGS I see no problem. He has a chance to RESTRUCTURE and Rewrite his legacy.

I see big problem bro. Big problem. Voltage is right bro. In the long run this will backfire. My advice to those reading this is to not empower him at all. But neuter him. Him and Abbas should be not be empowered at all but new faces from their clans empowered strategically. Janan isn’t good bro. Moalimu is the future. Not him.

Exactly let him be supervised by Moalimu, Bakaal, Buulleey etc. That is what i am advocating for he cannot be independent, but can play a significant role.

You’re a fan of his bro. I’m not. If we are to be honest. I want a break with all the old players. That’s what voltage is saying in truth. And I agree. This nigga broke his word to Farmaajo and ran back to the enemy. You’re dumb bro. He should be killed. But for our strategic reasons we kept him alive. He’ll be under house arrest bro. Atoosh is opposition media bro. He’s pro Kabalax. And the Zanzibaris love Janan. Anything they love I detest. This is the real situation.

[Sbashi]

Gubbet, Janan wasn't defeated. He made a deal with Farmaajo. Why should he be treated like abu mansoor who was defeated? The deal could be the reason Janan is treated differently.

Think about what you wrote Sbashi.

Janan was defeated 2X.

Having a clan with border is now above justice?"

Wallahi billahi my clan waa caadaqaadato.

I meant fully defeated to the point he was captured. I'm simply trying to see why might Farmaajo treat him slightly different than abu mansoor who didn't have the chance to do an agreement before he was captured. My personal views are if he surrendered to put him in prison and held accountable. The Beledxaawo family blood is still too fresh in my mind for me to even want house arrest for him.

[grandpakhalif]

I see big problem bro. Big problem. Voltage is right bro. In the long run this will backfire. My advice to those reading this is to not empower him at all. But neuter him. Him and Abbas should be not be empowered at all but new faces from their clans empowered strategically. Janan isn’t good bro. Moalimu is the future. Not him.

Exactly let him be supervised by Moalimu, Bakaal, Buulleey etc. That is what i am advocating for he cannot be independent, but can play a significant role.

You’re a fan of his bro. I’m not. If we are to be honest. I want a break with all the old players. That’s what voltage is saying in truth. And I agree. This nigga broke his word to Farmaajo and ran back to the enemy. You’re dumb bro. He should be killed. But for our strategic reasons we kept him alive. He’ll be under house arrest bro. Atoosh is opposition media bro. He’s pro Kabalax. And the Zanzibaris love Janan. Anything they love I detest. This is the real situation.

I honestly dont care as long as those sweet technicals are absorbed by the FGS, its a win for Beesha either way!

[Gubbet]

Saddam, wallahi the way I look at you and the way you waffled in this isma lahan.

Grandpa and Mustapha need to rethink their judgement, but even if you didn't fail, you didn't pass either Saddam.

At the most, you were C-.

I don't know how any intelligent, young good Marehan of conscious who wants the best for his people and supports Farmajo, could ever think doing anything less than immediately putting handcuffs on Janan is not an existential danger to everything good for the above support is beyond me.

Anyone who showed weakness or bowed before the same discredited civil war narrative really needs to begin the process of shoring up their judgement and critical thinking.

Farmaajo is not leader because he is doing what was done in 1996. Farmaajo is a leader because he is going to take us kicking and screaming to 2021 even if we are still back in 1996.

I am breathing a sigh of relief ---but I am still waiting to see how Gov treats him.
Handcuffs ->> Plane --->> Fly

Nothing less. 0%.