I propose this solution for somaliland & puntland

[theyuusuf143]

It's a vission that I believe it's going to bring long lasting peace + prosperity. In summary it goes like this


1. UNITY: Somaliland and puntland must unite, because we have to, this will automatically bring immediate peace between us , secondly we can jointly get recognition
from somalia, more quickly than it took us. even if we don't get any recognition the unity still benefits for our stability. Both names and their whole system will be dissolved and we adopt new name and administration created for long lasting equality, stability and prosperity. It can be HORN AFRICA or what ever unique name we can agree.

2. BOUNDARIES: Let's agree, you keep all warsangeli
territory including their fair share of ceerigaabo, and we keep all dhulbahante territory if we decide to dissolve our unity.
3. CAPITAL: this is very obvious , of course ceerigaabo. It makes sense right. It's the only common ground we can meet , ceerigaabo area is also geographically worth for capital
4. POWER SHARING : Rotating presidence between the two sides , every 10 years . we can add a prime minister portfolio if it brings more trust and transparency. And equal number of small parliament members from both sides . No more than 101.

The rest can be solved by experienced technocrats in good faith. For example how many administrative regions do we need , should we keep the kacaan era ones or create new ones. We also need them to shape the economy system and budget allocations.

Feel free to add what I have left .

[theyuusuf143]

I am confident this idea will be a very popular one in the near future, because we are heading into a big more destructive conflicts if we don't solve our small problems today. I choose puntland over the whole somali Republic unity, because the Southern issues is more complicated for both of us. For that reason the southies must realise its time to let the whole north go (somaliland and puntland). This may look division but I believe it's a key ingredient for the future somali reunion. The more we compromise today the better for our future generations .

[STARKAST]

The more we compromise today the better for our future generations .

How about reer waaqoyi comprimise their kibir and make it their interest to *help* pacify the south.
Try not to insult the irir hutu nation who you condescend and maybe try help out.


Whats better is power sharing between former British and Italian Somaliland regions for the FGS seat and federalism intact for local admin. This will help you with your HY fifth column.

[Khalid Ali]

That’s the most absurd thing I have ever heard what on earth will I gain from majeertenia most barren land being United with walanweyn makes more sense then to be United with a cursed territory in benderqaasim and bender beyela

The yusuuuf tan waad ku dhacday. As if wasakhgali and qurjile aren’t enough u want to bring more jebertis the enemies of god and the prophet War horta maanta Maad so cabtay kulaha ceerigabo. Ceerigaabo ya ku yidhi darood ba wax ku leh. Waryanay gadhweyn ku maqlin

[Isseayaanle]

Nice try Idoors but, you will not let the rest of US Somalis be stuck with HUTUS. It’s Somaliland and Putland who keep Hutus in control of Somalia by supporting the status quo and the capital being xamar. So either all of Somalia is Balkanized or join Kenya and Ethiopia or your stuck with Hutus aka hawiye.

[theyuusuf143]

The more we compromise today the better for our future generations .

How about reer waaqoyi comprimise their kibir and make it their interest to *help* pacify the south.
Try not to insult the irir hutu nation who you condescend and maybe try help out.


Whats better is power sharing between former British and Italian Somaliland regions for the FGS seat and federalism intact for local admin. This will help you with your HY fifth column.

Let's use common sense, if the whole world including the Great USA failed to pacify the south for 30 years, what makes you thing we can solve their problem . It's complicated. Puntland and somaliland unity makes more sense to me it saves a lot of time and resources we spend in the name of defence and it brings more stability, I don't have to sacrifice my self to do an other man's dirt work. I don't want my peaple to get involved never ending none sense wars. We want peace and life just like other civilised human beings.

[theyuusuf143]

That’s the most absurd thing I have ever heard what on earth will I gain from majeertenia most barren land being United with walanweyn makes more sense then to be United with a cursed territory in benderqaasim and bender beyela

The yusuuuf tan waad ku dhacday. As if wasakhgali and qurjile aren’t enough u want to bring more jebertis the enemies of god and the prophet War horta maanta Maad so cabtay kulaha ceerigabo. Ceerigaabo ya ku yidhi darood ba wax ku leh. Waryanay gadhweyn ku maqlin

We have nothing to loose either, it will only bring long lasting peace and prosperity. Why not bring all harti under one flag , we save, time money and energy and spare to many young lives . With majeerten we can achieve the recognition more quickly. Because I know they too want to separate somalia but they don't have the legal case. Bringing puntland and somaliland together is very simple than you think. Most importantly the peaple will support this idea. I have no doubt about that.

[theyuusuf143]

Nice try Idoors but, you will not let the rest of US Somalis be stuck with HUTUS. It’s Somaliland and Putland who keep Hutus in control of Somalia by supporting the status quo and the capital being xamar. So either all of Somalia is Balkanized or join Kenya and Ethiopia or your stuck with Hutus aka hawiye.

It's upto the southies to bring solution to their problem, what's missing here is their role to take their matters into their own hands. Even if they decide to join kenya or Ethiopia I don't think it's bad idea at all. Since they are already protected by them. By the way the horn africa Republic is open for expansion any independent somali state that meets the requirement can apply to join the union. Its simple like that. Its an alternative somaliweyn project based on reality not just paper based .

[Zak77]

Damn hutu must be a huge thorn in the ass for the north I wonder what they will do once the south is free (which they hope stays in conflict) and has a dowlad. Even in turmoil, Hawiye manages to make the north scream that's what I call impact. Somalia cida nalka u shida una damisa waa la yaqaanaa hhhhh. Good luck with the Harti and iidoor dream team future alliance we welcome it let's see how long it lasts, on the net hahaha.

[Isseayaanle]

Nice try Idoors but, you will not let the rest of US Somalis be stuck with HUTUS. It’s Somaliland and Putland who keep Hutus in control of Somalia by supporting the status quo and the capital being xamar. So either all of Somalia is Balkanized or join Kenya and Ethiopia or your stuck with Hutus aka hawiye.

It's upto the southies to bring solution to their problem, what's missing here is their role to take their matters into their own hands. Even if they decide to join kenya or Ethiopia I don't think it's bad idea at all. Since they are already protected by them. By the way the horn africa Republic is open for expansion any independent somali state that meets the requirement can apply to join the union. Its simple like that. Its an alternative somaliweyn project based on reality not just paper based .

Every Somali knows that without putland and Somaliland, Hutus would be nothing. Why because they keep the status quo. If putland and Somaliland get out of the picture, then xamar is no longer the capital and everyone including Raxawayne will go their own way. I didn’t say join Kenya or Ethiopia. What I said was we either work together as all 18 states and move the capital to places like kismayo, ceerigabo, Awdal, etc. or we seprate foor good. But putland and Somaliland will not let the rest of us southerners be stuck with Hutus. Even you Idoors know their true nature of lawlessness, hunger, etc. Hutus only power is xamar which is the seat of foreign aid, presidency, federal government. If it was in the capital then they wouldn’t scream unkaleh and would be smacked back to guriceel. Just compare xamar before 1991 Hutu invasion to know. There the only Somali clan who think alike All all Hutu sub clans. Other such as Daarod have sub clans who think differently like marehan, MJ, etc. So NO!

[theyuusuf143]

Damn hutu must be a huge thorn in the ass for the north I wonder what they will do once the south is free (which they hope stays in conflict) and has a dowlad. Even in turmoil, Hawiye manages to make the north scream that's what I call impact. Somalia cida nalka u shida una damisa waa la yaqaanaa hhhhh. Good luck with the Harti and iidoor dream team future alliance we welcome it let's see how long it lasts, on the net hahaha.

Do you have any solution other than "wait me for ever " who is gonna free the south, when both your elders and and youth are ciyaal xamar , ciyal tiktok, at the same time your government is begging other African countries to contribute their youth to defend you , hanala yaabine ilaah baan kugu shaarshee ma waxa la arkay askar dhiboooya ( dablayaal) oo 3 sanao tabababar dibada ugu maqan ( Eritrea) jaamacadan intaas qaadan, fii shii waxbaa jiray carabtu dhahda. Dal aan askari dable ah tababaran karin goormuu xoroobaya. Every single thing , xitaa qalinka iyo buuga in cidi kale idiinku deeqaan baad rabta. Atleast majeerten ku waxuunbay isku dayaan wax lagu sii dari karo .

Sidan laguma sii jiriyo. Somaliland iyo puntland na way ku khasban yihiin inay midooban oo si dhaba oo la lafo guray loo mideeyo. Waa aragti fog oo caamadu aanay liqi karin laakiin waa sida keliya ee aan arko In sharafta iyo midnimada somalidu kusoo laabanayso. Awalba anaga iyo majeerten baa somalida indho u ahaa. Inaanu midawna waxuunbay somalida u jihanaysa mustaqbal ifaya.

[theyuusuf143]

Nice try Idoors but, you will not let the rest of US Somalis be stuck with HUTUS. It’s Somaliland and Putland who keep Hutus in control of Somalia by supporting the status quo and the capital being xamar. So either all of Somalia is Balkanized or join Kenya and Ethiopia or your stuck with Hutus aka hawiye.

It's upto the southies to bring solution to their problem, what's missing here is their role to take their matters into their own hands. Even if they decide to join kenya or Ethiopia I don't think it's bad idea at all. Since they are already protected by them. By the way the horn africa Republic is open for expansion any independent somali state that meets the requirement can apply to join the union. Its simple like that. Its an alternative somaliweyn project based on reality not just paper based .

Every Somali knows that without putland and Somaliland, Hutus would be nothing. Why because they keep the status quo. If putland and Somaliland get out of the picture, then xamar is no longer the capital and everyone including Raxawayne will go their own way. I didn’t say join Kenya or Ethiopia. What I said was we either work together as all 18 states and move the capital to places like kismayo, ceerigabo, Awdal, etc. or we seprate foor good. But putland and Somaliland will not let the rest of us southerners be stuck with Hutus. Even you Idoors know their true nature of lawlessness, hunger, etc. Hutus only power is xamar which is the seat of foreign aid, presidency, federal government. If it was in the capital then they wouldn’t scream unkaleh and would be smacked back to guriceel. Just compare xamar before 1991 Hutu invasion to know. There the only Somali clan who think alike All all Hutu sub clans. Other such as Daarod have sub clans who think differently like marehan, MJ, etc. So NO!

Markad yeelataan ciday taladiinu ka go,odo haynoo ahaato. Inta ka horaysa i am very sorry aad baan uga xumahay islama Jaan qaadi karno xiligan aynu ku jirno.

[Phinks]

Why would a Maxamuud Salebaan subject himself to your people? I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only reason Idoors hate MJ is because waa dad toosan, who have their heads on straight.

Think about it, a family within Harti, who are then again another subset of that family, control:

- A longer coastline
- More territory
- Established the foundation of the Souths governmental system

Why would a better higher IQ person team up with a xaasid nacas who calls him a Faqash behind his back? Idoor have no honesty or loyalty, you're just the same as HAG, but I'll admit you go about it in a more subdued sinister manner.

[Khalid Ali]

I see absolutely no value in majeerteenia and their territory
And I don’t think they want to seperate form their hawiye cousins
Somaliland recognition is easy we just need to bribe the African Union country’s to help us or convince the bunker to sign the divorce papers the bunker opposes somaliland independence because it’s afraid puntland might go to if somaliland and puntland go then the bunker will cry allot so no solutions.

In other news we should seperate from Somalia gain recognition and then don’t allow any else to leave Somalia that’s the way forward

Death to walanweyn by the way

[Phinks]

Somaliland will never be a reality. I'm suprised your kind still cling to this fake dream of yours, you will never rule the very faqash you claim to despise.

Isaaq, HAG, rest of Darood, they're no different to each other, unlike Puntites, your nature is evil at the heart.

The status-quo will remain forever, get over it or at least try something new for once.