Religious clans/brotherhoods in Somaliweyn
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Realone123
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Religious clans/brotherhoods in Somaliweyn
Three points I wanna make with this topic
Firstly What are the most religious clans in Somali history for every major region
Secondly do the religious clans have blood ties or are they religious brotherhoods based on spreading the deen
Lastly how have these religious clans become so spread out some of them being found across somaliweyn
This should be a good topic everybody feel free add to the discussion
Firstly What are the most religious clans in Somali history for every major region
Secondly do the religious clans have blood ties or are they religious brotherhoods based on spreading the deen
Lastly how have these religious clans become so spread out some of them being found across somaliweyn
This should be a good topic everybody feel free add to the discussion
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The groups that spread deen by travelling are clans with multiple Fiqis in their abtirsi, like Sheekhaal Fiqi Cumar and Fiqi Maxamed Direed. Then there are clans associated with centres of religion like the Macalinweyne RX of Gedo teach Qur'aan, the Ogaden of Nogob and Harar area teach Hadith, the shanta culumo clans in Hiiraan taught Fiqh. Xamar and Saylac were places of study too but this was way back in the medieval era when Spaniards from Andalus and Chinese Muslims came to study religion from us.
The 19th century saw a steady progress of Sufism imports, when tariqa settlements were made everywhere, one could say their role was more to do with preserving basic Islam (e.g Safiinatu Najaax) so to prevent colonial influence.
The 19th century saw a steady progress of Sufism imports, when tariqa settlements were made everywhere, one could say their role was more to do with preserving basic Islam (e.g Safiinatu Najaax) so to prevent colonial influence.
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Realone123
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Good info on baardheere a city with religious history in Somaliweyn
Good info on baardheere a city with religious history in Somaliweyn
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Realone123
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thanks for the knowledge Makes sense as to why those two clans are very spread out do you know who was apart of the shaanta culumo in hiiraan ? Also who were the religious Clans/brotherhoods in central Somalia/puntland regionOwQariib wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:04 am The groups that spread deen by travelling are clans with multiple Fiqis in their abtirsi, like Sheekhaal Fiqi Cumar and Fiqi Maxamed Direed. Then there are clans associated with centres of religion like the Macalinweyne RX of Gedo teach Qur'aan, the Ogaden of Nogob and Harar area teach Hadith, the shanta culumo clans in Hiiraan taught Fiqh. Xamar and Saylac were places of study too but this was way back in the medieval era when Spaniards from Andalus and Chinese Muslims came to study religion from us.
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Realone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:12 amthanks for the knowledge Makes sense as to why those two clans are very spread out do you know who was apart of the shaanta culumo in hiiraan ? Also who were the religious Clans/brotherhoods in central Somalia/puntland regionOwQariib wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:04 am The groups that spread deen by travelling are clans with multiple Fiqis in their abtirsi, like Sheekhaal Fiqi Cumar and Fiqi Maxamed Direed. Then there are clans associated with centres of religion like the Macalinweyne RX of Gedo teach Qur'aan, the Ogaden of Nogob and Harar area teach Hadith, the shanta culumo clans in Hiiraan taught Fiqh. Xamar and Saylac were places of study too but this was way back in the medieval era when Spaniards from Andalus and Chinese Muslims came to study religion from us.
I can't remember all of Shanta culumo, but it includes Dir, Udeejeen and Sheekhaal. The central Somalia/PL area i would say Dir and Sheekhaal played a big role historically in the dacwah scene. Everyone in Mudug knows Sh Yusuf Direed and Sh Cali Samantar. But by the 19th century, many clans became led by learnt Sufi scholars, like Gaaljecel, Waceysle, Biimaal etc to name a few. They would study to get an ijaaza and be told to stay among their clansmen and build their knowledge.
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Realone123
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OwQariib wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:18 amRealone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:12 amthanks for the knowledge Makes sense as to why those two clans are very spread out do you know who was apart of the shaanta culumo in hiiraan ? Also who were the religious Clans/brotherhoods in central Somalia/puntland regionOwQariib wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:04 am The groups that spread deen by travelling are clans with multiple Fiqis in their abtirsi, like Sheekhaal Fiqi Cumar and Fiqi Maxamed Direed. Then there are clans associated with centres of religion like the Macalinweyne RX of Gedo teach Qur'aan, the Ogaden of Nogob and Harar area teach Hadith, the shanta culumo clans in Hiiraan taught Fiqh. Xamar and Saylac were places of study too but this was way back in the medieval era when Spaniards from Andalus and Chinese Muslims came to study religion from us.
I can't remember all of Shanta culumo, but it includes Dir, Udeejeen and Sheekhaal. The central Somalia/PL area i would say Dir and Sheekhaal played a big role historically in the dacwah scene. Everyone in Mudug knows Sh Yusuf Direed and Sh Cali Samantar. But by the 19th century, many clans became led by learnt Sufi scholars, like Gaaljecel, Waceysle, Biimaal etc to name a few. They would study to get an ijaaza and be told to stay among their clansmen and build their knowledge.
16th century religious document written by leelkase clan elder maxamed muumin his descendants are called xer in central Somalia the document was written in 1690s
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There are some tribes that were called the AW clans and some of them joined other tribes like Sheekhal part of Hawiye, Leelkase(ex Xer) part of Daarood, Faqi part of Dir
Somali tribes are divided into two types; Waranle and wadaad, The Wadaads were allowed to live in the land of the Waranle fighting tribes so they spread out in different places like Hiiraan, Mudug, Bari, Buurxakabo, Luuq etc.
Somali tribes are divided into two types; Waranle and wadaad, The Wadaads were allowed to live in the land of the Waranle fighting tribes so they spread out in different places like Hiiraan, Mudug, Bari, Buurxakabo, Luuq etc.
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Forgot about Leelkase, they're very religious people and xeroow too. They run a whole Mosque in London, a rare feat for a subclan.Realone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:36 amOwQariib wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:18 amRealone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:12 am
thanks for the knowledge Makes sense as to why those two clans are very spread out do you know who was apart of the shaanta culumo in hiiraan ? Also who were the religious Clans/brotherhoods in central Somalia/puntland region
I can't remember all of Shanta culumo, but it includes Dir, Udeejeen and Sheekhaal. The central Somalia/PL area i would say Dir and Sheekhaal played a big role historically in the dacwah scene. Everyone in Mudug knows Sh Yusuf Direed and Sh Cali Samantar. But by the 19th century, many clans became led by learnt Sufi scholars, like Gaaljecel, Waceysle, Biimaal etc to name a few. They would study to get an ijaaza and be told to stay among their clansmen and build their knowledge.
16th century religious document written by leelkase clan elder maxamed muumin his descendants are called xer in central Somalia the document was written in 1690s
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What tribes did leelkase and sheekhaal join also do both those clans exist in hiiraan burhakaba luuq etcsahal80 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:48 am There are some tribes that were called the AW clans and some of them joined other tribes like Sheekhal part of Hawiye, Leelkase(ex Xer) part of Daarood, Faqi part of Dir
Somali tribes are divided into two types; Waranle and wadaad, The Wadaads were allowed to live in the land of the Waranle fighting tribes so they spread out in different places like Hiiraan, Mudug, Bari, Buurxakabo, Luuq etc.
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Dont forget Aw gadsan and weyteen absame
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i can't open this tribal file bro for it's sensitivityRealone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:05 amWhat tribes did leelkase and sheekhaal join also do both those clans exist in hiiraan burhakaba luuq etcsahal80 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:48 am There are some tribes that were called the AW clans and some of them joined other tribes like Sheekhal part of Hawiye, Leelkase(ex Xer) part of Daarood, Faqi part of Dir
Somali tribes are divided into two types; Waranle and wadaad, The Wadaads were allowed to live in the land of the Waranle fighting tribes so they spread out in different places like Hiiraan, Mudug, Bari, Buurxakabo, Luuq etc.
there were islamic centers From Burhakaba, Goldagob and Dir of Mudug, Harar and Saylac that why you have Reer Shiikh mumin in Burhakaba and Goldogob and Kuurshe in Harar. they were ex Xer landing here and there and till they formed ther own tribe. in Hiiraan we have reer Aw hassan some of them are from Barawe others from Harar, others are local farmers who worked for Ajuuran they all landed in Buur ukur anf formed theur AW Cilmi clan. first Sheekhal clan r from buur shiikh. Aw cilmi was breacher in buur(mountain) they cant be his biological sons minister for education Farah Abdulkadir is one of them and another one is called Aw Mahdi Fahad yasin blongs to it. they all used to be called the Aw clans.
"Here's a list of the Major Leelkase Subclans and their area's.
The "Korshe" and "Warodhaqo" in Ethiopia
The "Cali Sheikh" in Middle Shabeele
The "Aw-Salaat" in Lower Shabeele
The Jaamac Hassan Muumin in Buurhakaba (Mostly in their own town called "Hassan Muumin")
The [[Muumin Adan]] largely in Mudug(Goldogob, Gaalkacyo), & Lower Jubba (Kismaayo), Dudub
The "Rooble Hassan" in Garowe,Eyl,Boosaaso and Qardho
The "Mohamed Hassan" Ree Xabbad in Dan-goronyo, Eyl Taleex and lower Jubba
The "Mahamed Adan" who lives in Garoowe only
The "Fiqi Ismail" in Gaalkacyo and Burtinle
The "Maalismogge" of Gaalkacyo
The "Ismail Ali" in "Qandala"
The "Suhurre" in Eyl Nugaal"
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Realone123
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Facts that tribal file is super sensitive Thanks for the information I’ve heard of all these subclans i never heard of reer aw salaat what part of lower shabelle do they live ? I need more information on them southern Somalia in general has deep religious history good History lesson I think all these religious clans have some sort of connectionsahal80 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:25 ami can't open this tribal file bro for it's sensitivityRealone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:05 amWhat tribes did leelkase and sheekhaal join also do both those clans exist in hiiraan burhakaba luuq etcsahal80 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:48 am There are some tribes that were called the AW clans and some of them joined other tribes like Sheekhal part of Hawiye, Leelkase(ex Xer) part of Daarood, Faqi part of Dir
Somali tribes are divided into two types; Waranle and wadaad, The Wadaads were allowed to live in the land of the Waranle fighting tribes so they spread out in different places like Hiiraan, Mudug, Bari, Buurxakabo, Luuq etc.![]()
there were islamic centers From Burhakaba, Goldagob and Dir of Mudug, Harar and Saylac that why you have Reer Shiikh mumin in Burhakaba and Goldogob and Kuurshe in Harar. they were ex Xer landing here and there and till they formed ther own tribe. in Hiiraan we have reer Aw hassan some of them are from Barawe others from Harar, others are local farmers who worked for Ajuuran they all landed in Buur ukur anf formed theur AW Cilmi clan. first Sheekhal clan r from buur shiikh. Aw cilmi was breacher in buur(mountain) they cant be his biological sons minister for education Farah Abdulkadir is one of them and another one is called Aw Mahdi Fahad yasin blongs to it. they all used to be called the Aw clans.
"Here's a list of the Major Leelkase Subclans and their area's.
The "Korshe" and "Warodhaqo" in Ethiopia
The "Cali Sheikh" in Middle Shabeele
The "Aw-Salaat" in Lower Shabeele
The Jaamac Hassan Muumin in Buurhakaba (Mostly in their own town called "Hassan Muumin")
The [[Muumin Adan]] largely in Mudug(Goldogob, Gaalkacyo), & Lower Jubba (Kismaayo), Dudub
The "Rooble Hassan" in Garowe,Eyl,Boosaaso and Qardho
The "Mohamed Hassan" Ree Xabbad in Dan-goronyo, Eyl Taleex and lower Jubba
The "Mahamed Adan" who lives in Garoowe only
The "Fiqi Ismail" in Gaalkacyo and Burtinle
The "Maalismogge" of Gaalkacyo
The "Ismail Ali" in "Qandala"
The "Suhurre" in Eyl Nugaal"
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this link states Reer aw Salaat as part of lower Shabelle clans wich is not Daarood territory.Realone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:06 pmFacts that tribal file is super sensitive Thanks for the information I’ve heard of all these subclans i never heard of reer aw salaat what part of lower shabelle do they live ? I need more information on them southern Somalia in general has deep religious history good History lesson I think all these religious clans have some sort of connectionsahal80 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:25 ami can't open this tribal file bro for it's sensitivityRealone123 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:05 am
What tribes did leelkase and sheekhaal join also do both those clans exist in hiiraan burhakaba luuq etc![]()
there were islamic centers From Burhakaba, Goldagob and Dir of Mudug, Harar and Saylac that why you have Reer Shiikh mumin in Burhakaba and Goldogob and Kuurshe in Harar. they were ex Xer landing here and there and till they formed ther own tribe. in Hiiraan we have reer Aw hassan some of them are from Barawe others from Harar, others are local farmers who worked for Ajuuran they all landed in Buur ukur anf formed theur AW Cilmi clan. first Sheekhal clan r from buur shiikh. Aw cilmi was breacher in buur(mountain) they cant be his biological sons minister for education Farah Abdulkadir is one of them and another one is called Aw Mahdi Fahad yasin blongs to it. they all used to be called the Aw clans.
"Here's a list of the Major Leelkase Subclans and their area's.
The "Korshe" and "Warodhaqo" in Ethiopia
The "Cali Sheikh" in Middle Shabeele
The "Aw-Salaat" in Lower Shabeele
The Jaamac Hassan Muumin in Buurhakaba (Mostly in their own town called "Hassan Muumin")
The [[Muumin Adan]] largely in Mudug(Goldogob, Gaalkacyo), & Lower Jubba (Kismaayo), Dudub
The "Rooble Hassan" in Garowe,Eyl,Boosaaso and Qardho
The "Mohamed Hassan" Ree Xabbad in Dan-goronyo, Eyl Taleex and lower Jubba
The "Mahamed Adan" who lives in Garoowe only
The "Fiqi Ismail" in Gaalkacyo and Burtinle
The "Maalismogge" of Gaalkacyo
The "Ismail Ali" in "Qandala"
The "Suhurre" in Eyl Nugaal"
https://ca.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabeellaha_Hoose
there is another one related to leelkase in dabarre(Rahanweyn) and they r ex Xer(Sheikh followers)
if you can read Somali here is one link but no one knows the facts except they r former religious clans. He says the Somali tribes are the result of religious and pastoral coalitions or based on their skills. that is all i heard.
https://hobyomedia.com/2020/08/hawiye-w ... le-dhiban/
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Realone123
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this has been a good thread so far it seems like every region and major tribe had their culumo living with them very interesting part of Somali history
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Let’s not forget the Fiqishini clan that lives in with Dhulbante and Isaaq. But originally from the HG Ayr sub clan. They were crucial in the spread of Islam in the Sool and Sanaag region, in which they still live today.
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