We told you not to tribalize the army & the consequences are coming home for HSM’s community

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We told you not to tribalize the army & the consequences are coming home for HSM’s community

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You was warned:



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Just nomads who fought over wells. Focus on children getting raped in Caabudwaaq
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Damn....that was harsh. :damn:
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We warned them now they are fighting and killing each other like the donkeys they are look at them celebrating the death of their fellow Abgaal what a braindead people only SNA can ever function profesionally.
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Never seen women and children carrying knives and finishing off opposition clan militias.

This is pure savagery.
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:08 am Just nomads who fought over wells. Focus on children getting raped in Caabudwaaq

This is HSM’s MBB team making rape jokes. Anyways your own intellectuals admit the last 6 months was a waste of time. Karaan didn’t send their best:

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This is just subclans of abgal killing each other. Imagine what happens when other armed hawiye in galnus and hiirshabeele start fighting. It will be never ending clan conflict.

HSM needs to dial back the clan rhetoric. He should be looking to disarm clans, and let the SNa do their jobs, that’s how you defeat al shabab.
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Acuudi bilaahi minal shaythaani rajiim

Xasbunalaah wa nicmal wakiil

War maxaa nala tusay, Ilaahayoow khaatumada nagu sug

And it had to be "two sub-clans WITHIN Abgaal" of the same clan as the HSM who believes prioritizing clan vigilantes as a replacement or in place of state security infrastructure.

This is not even 1993 Somalia. Midiyaha eeg. This is Rwanda Interhamwe.

Waa halaag wallahi and clear message from Providence

Inaa lilaahi waa inaa ilaayhi raajicuun
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Blame the Obama and Biden wing of the Democratic Party. They supported this man HSM. All the deaths of Zoobe 2 are on the hands of the Obama wing of the party

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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:08 am Just nomads who fought over wells. Focus on children getting raped in Caabudwaaq
The sexual crimes cases were Horrible incidents. Sickened me wallahi. I don't care if she would have been a child in Siberia or the South Pole.

But a local law enforcement criminality issue.

What you are brushing off is not "fights over wells." First of all members of the same clan do not fight over wells and grazing at all. The entire xeer underpinning the relevance of clan in Somalia culture is completely predicated on "resource sharing.'

Members of the same clan do not fight over wells and grazing. Members of opposing clans who do not share the xeer underpinning their kinship (the "contract") fight over wells and grazing. Members of the same clan fight over politics and civil matters about institutional stature and preeminence. You know things that are the "luxuries" after the basics of survival or basic resource sharing ("wells" and "grazing").

No clan has been in more conflicts, and resource based conflicts, than my clan according to a study by Joakim Gundel.

They fought over pro-Al Itihad vs pro-clan secularism. They fought over which clan can have predominance over the politics of this city or that city. And they fought with other clans about pro-Siad or pro-rebellion. They have even fought with many other clans about resources like for example Habar Gidir in Mudug grazing.

Yet no two sub-clans of Marehan have ever clashed over wells or grazing. The very basis of Marehan kinship says where a patch of grazing is pegged to Marehan name or a single well than every single Marehan holds equity. The Rer Hassan in Deka Sufti outside Nageyle if they were to be transported and plopped on Saaxo Wagardhac settlement outside Galdagob district, that is their grazing and their well. They are "entitled" to it just as much as Wagardhac. That is the point of our kinship being turned into a binding contract ("Xeer")---so we "share" livelihood resources (aka "grazing" and "wells").

This is not clans over wells.

This is two sub-clans of Abgaal of Mudulood of Hiraab of Hawiye in crimes against humanity evocation of hegemonic existentiality.

"Existentiality" as in mutually exclusive outcome. They cannot co-exist. Either I persevere or I cease to exist and if I persevere than it means you have to have ceased to exist whereas if I have ceased to exist, you had to have persevered.

I understand Somali conflict at all levels and I have seen it replay in a loop.

Thiis is musiibo.

This is an aberration.

This is halaag forewarned.

War HSM wadankaan halaga qabto inaa lilaah waa inaa ilayhi raajicuun, ilaahoow shartaan adigaan kaa magan galnay :!:
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:26 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:08 am Just nomads who fought over wells. Focus on children getting raped in Caabudwaaq
The sexual crimes cases were Horrible incidents. Sickened me wallahi. I don't care if she would have been a child in Siberia or the South Pole.

But a local law enforcement criminality issue.

What you are brushing off is not "fights over wells." First of all members of the same clan do not fight over wells and grazing at all. The entire xeer underpinning the relevance of clan in Somalia culture is completely predicated on "resource sharing.'

Members of the same clan do not fight over wells and grazing. Members of opposing clans who do not share the xeer underpinning their kinship (the "contract") fight over wells and grazing. Members of the same clan fight over politics and civil matters about institutional stature and preeminence. You know things that are the "luxuries" after the basics of survival or basic resource sharing ("wells" and "grazing").

No clan has been in more conflicts, and resource based conflicts, than my clan according to a study by Joakim Gundel.

They fought over pro-Al Itihad vs pro-clan secularism. They fought over which clan can have predominance over the politics of this city or that city. And they fought with other clans about pro-Siad or pro-rebellion. They have even fought with many other clans about resources like for example Habar Gidir in Mudug grazing.

Yet no two sub-clans of Marehan have ever clashed over wells or grazing. The very basis of Marehan kinship says where a patch of grazing is pegged to Marehan name or a single well than every single Marehan holds equity. The Rer Hassan in Deka Sufti outside Nageyle if they were to be transported and plopped on Saaxo Wagardhac settlement outside Galdagob district, that is their grazing and their well. They are "entitled" to it just as much as Wagardhac. That is the point of our kinship being turned into a binding contract ("Xeer")---so we "share" livelihood resources (aka "grazing" and "wells").

This is not clans over wells.

This is two sub-clans of Abgaal of Mudulood of Hiraab of Hawiye in crimes against humanity evocation of hegemonic existentiality.

"Existentiality" as in mutually exclusive outcome. They cannot co-exist. Either I persevere or I cease to exist and if I persevere than it means you have to have ceased to exist whereas if I have ceased to exist, you had to have persevered.

I understand Somali conflict at all levels and I have seen it replay in a loop.

Thiis is musiibo.

This is an aberration.

This is halaag forewarned.

War HSM wadankaan halaga qabto inaa lilaah waa inaa ilayhi raajicuun, ilaahoow shartaan adigaan kaa magan galnay :!:

Don’t even worry. Leaks are dripping stating SNA brass don’t even like HSM’s war on Al Shabaab:

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And the plot gets thicker. Minus the TPLF hit. I don’t kick a former ally turned enemy in the ground. Other than that on point.

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Gubbet wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:26 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:08 am Just nomads who fought over wells. Focus on children getting raped in Caabudwaaq
The sexual crimes cases were Horrible incidents. Sickened me wallahi. I don't care if she would have been a child in Siberia or the South Pole.

But a local law enforcement criminality issue.

What you are brushing off is not "fights over wells." First of all members of the same clan do not fight over wells and grazing at all. The entire xeer underpinning the relevance of clan in Somalia culture is completely predicated on "resource sharing.'

Members of the same clan do not fight over wells and grazing. Members of opposing clans who do not share the xeer underpinning their kinship (the "contract") fight over wells and grazing. Members of the same clan fight over politics and civil matters about institutional stature and preeminence. You know things that are the "luxuries" after the basics of survival or basic resource sharing ("wells" and "grazing").

No clan has been in more conflicts, and resource based conflicts, than my clan according to a study by Joakim Gundel.

They fought over pro-Al Itihad vs pro-clan secularism. They fought over which clan can have predominance over the politics of this city or that city. And they fought with other clans about pro-Siad or pro-rebellion. They have even fought with many other clans about resources like for example Habar Gidir in Mudug grazing.

Yet no two sub-clans of Marehan have ever clashed over wells or grazing. The very basis of Marehan kinship says where a patch of grazing is pegged to Marehan name or a single well than every single Marehan holds equity. The Rer Hassan in Deka Sufti outside Nageyle if they were to be transported and plopped on Saaxo Wagardhac settlement outside Galdagob district, that is their grazing and their well. They are "entitled" to it just as much as Wagardhac. That is the point of our kinship being turned into a binding contract ("Xeer")---so we "share" livelihood resources (aka "grazing" and "wells").

This is not clans over wells.

This is two sub-clans of Abgaal of Mudulood of Hiraab of Hawiye in crimes against humanity evocation of hegemonic existentiality.

"Existentiality" as in mutually exclusive outcome. They cannot co-exist. Either I persevere or I cease to exist and if I persevere than it means you have to have ceased to exist whereas if I have ceased to exist, you had to have persevered.

I understand Somali conflict at all levels and I have seen it replay in a loop.

Thiis is musiibo.

This is an aberration.

This is halaag forewarned.

War HSM wadankaan halaga qabto inaa lilaah waa inaa ilayhi raajicuun, ilaahoow shartaan adigaan kaa magan galnay :!:
Sxb buunbuuninta jooji. Gaabane and Cabdalla caroone have historically fought over wells and dhul. Howshan waa la galay dadka is dagaalay waala heshiinaya. Dagaalkan wuxu ku saleysan yahay to stop harti abgaal advancing to Aadan Yabaal. Shabab ayaa lug ku leh. Marka stop buun buuninta
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Waxaan kheyr ahayn idin ma rajaynayo walle iyo bille bay ka tahay 🙏
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Nomand wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:54 am Never seen women and children carrying knives and finishing off opposition clan militias.

This is pure savagery.
they did that to darod civilians in 1991 xamar
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