Top Xog: Hassan Shiekh's primary goal is removing Madoobe & installing Marehan in Jubbaland

[Gubbet]

1.This is behind making Hamza Barre the PM (preemptive strike against partiality like 1st time)

2. This is why Madoobe has been as opposed to this govt as the previous one

3. This is why Deni has been cast outside national power

4. HSM specifically wants Fartaag to replace Madoobe

5. This is behind sending Fartaag to Gedo to "shore" up his MX credentials (coming on the heels of having pushed Fartaag to a distance as another preemptive strike against partiality)

6. As for "why"...there are 2 reasons..A.) everybody including Damjadiid and internationals now recognize "Jubbaland" is really "Marehan" sphere of influence just like Hirshabelle is "Abgaal" sphere of influence and Somalia stabilization depends on the final correction of this unnatural enforced stalemate in Jubbaland and B.) Hassan Sh is obsessed with conquering Farmaajo's "allure" and he has realized the ultimate conquer will be taking Marehan "adoration" from underneath him because the presumption is anybody who finally removes the stench of Madoobe from relevance will be ninka "reerka u haray."

7. This is TOP, TOP "XOG"

Wow.

[MrSinister]

Interesting but seems very farfetched. But fartaag and aw hirsi etc were big hsm supporters, so maybe some truth to it.

Having Deni, Madoobe and Laftagareen as enemies doesn’t seem like a smart move for HSM.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

La-yeele ma hilmaamo, laakin yeele wuu hilmaamaa

[Gubbet]

Mr Sinister allahu aclam, but I left out a possible motivation that I came to on my own read of the "Xog."

In my opinion, "HAG" has for some time viewed "Marehan" as the "Darod threat" in the south. Marehan, as long as "Jubbaland" is under the enforced "stalemate" will not be turned towards "Jubbalsnd" as their consuming interest---which makes them with interest to meddle in '"Benadir" and even in the political war between"Benadir" and "Southwest" over "Lower Shabelle."

"HAG" may be motivated by finally "arresting" the Marehan interest/attention/motivation to "meddle" in that consequential "HAG" issue betrayed by Farmaajo & Marehan "elite" actions in the last term.

This "arrest" will be handing over "Jubbaland" to them as their natural "sphere of influence."

It is placation.

It also shows HAG has finally truly accepted Federalism and are no longer politically concerned with the Jubba Valley.

They similarly want Marehan "placated" so they become no longer concerned with the "Benadir."

[balwarama]

We are not gonna accept Marehan rule in Jubbaland, atleast in the coming decade Insha Allah. And Hassan Sheikh knows that. He tried the first time with two consecutive Marehan PMs and failed. Farmaajo also failed as president of the Federal Republic to remove Ogaden from Jubbaland Leadership.
Jubbaland is an Ogaden initiative. We will only relinquish it's leadership, once we feel comfortable.
We are not gonna exchange the PM post for Jubbaland leadership. This initiative is dear to us and we are yet to reap it's fruits.

[Gubbet]

We are not gonna accept Marehan rule in Jubbaland,

Uhuru is gone and 10 year "ocean case" which was the elephant in the room walaal.

I should also add "shidaad ladanaa," Marehan IS "Jubbaland" and your 10 year enforced placement ("babysitting") at top of it has yielded absolutely nothing. 0. Zilch.

You remind me of a guy from Beled-Weyne that used to be on here and his "gentlemen's agreement."

The "point" isn't just for some subsidized "squatting." The "point" is circumstantial stabilization and/or "political development" and Madoobe has not and is not capable of it. He has just "squatted."

Your 10 year "nannying" will end in 1 second whether now or tomorrow.

You are NOT = to Marehan weight/influence/primacy in "Jubbaland" and the child born last week can see it.
Take couple seats right over their.

[BigBreak]

Would Marehan accept "leading" a Jubaland state that's ultimately controlled by the federal government in Mogadishu?

[balwarama]

We are not gonna accept Marehan rule in Jubbaland,

Uhuru is gone and 10 year "ocean case" which was the elephant in the room walaal.

I should also add "shidaad ladanaa," Marehan IS "Jubbaland" and your 10 year enforced placement ("babysitting") at top of it has yielded absolutely nothing. 0. Zilch.

You remind me of a guy from Beled-Weyne that used to be on here and his "gentlemen's agreement."

The "point" isn't just for some subsidized "squatting." The "point" is circumstantial stabilization and/or "political development" and Madoobe has not and is not capable of it. He has just "squatted."

Your 10 year "nannying" will end in 1 second whether now or tomorrow.

You are NOT = to Marehan weight/influence/primacy in "Jubbaland" and the child born last week can see it.
Take couple seats right over their.

This is nothing but bravado. What Uhuru?
We are still as powerful in Kenya as ever. The new defence minister is Adan Bare Duale. When we first attacked Al Shabab with Kenya 11 years ago, there was no Uhuru but Kibaki. We were able to pull off that master plot because we had an other Ogaden, as Kenya Defence Minister, Yusuf Haji(Rahimahulah). And Somalia today, we hold the Premiership for havensake, plus we have just seen off a Marehan President who has tried everything possible, including by using Ethiopian Commandos, to remove Ahmed-madoobe. Not only did Ahmed-madoobe defeat Farmaajo soundly, he also denied him to select his own Clan's MPs and installed an Ogaden Prime minister.
Total defeat...

[Murax]

Gubbet,

Say perhaps that happens, and many MX suddenly flip, become HSM supporters. How is that not blatant Qabilism?



Truth be told I have zero Qabil Grievance to HSM, the reason I’m not a fan of him is because I believe he has very small, narrow goals. Foreign policy is weak which always depicts Somalia taking the fetal position. Domestically I think he’s weak too because he feels he needs to use Somali National Government positions to Damiin yaal to repay political favors. But I will not suddenly become a fan because one of his policies favored my clan.

Maybe my perspective is different because where I live I’m
reminded constantly of the humiliation statelessness has caused Somalis around the world. In the West that humiliation is not as evident.

[original dervish]

I feel no need to comment here. This isn't a serious discussion.

Nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic.

[Murax]

I feel no need to comment here. This isn't a serious discussion.

Nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic.

Your obsession is actually freaky. If everything you said was true you wouldn’t feel the need to comment in the first place, every time a MX even passes gas.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Double C. It’s over for the moderate pussycat. It’s the rise of the hunter. She wants the white baby? Cool it’s gonna come with public humiliation. I’m his scion. Do or die I refuse to bend to niggas we beat legit.

[Gubbet]

We are not gonna accept Marehan rule in Jubbaland,

Uhuru is gone and 10 year "ocean case" which was the elephant in the room walaal.

I should also add "shidaad ladanaa," Marehan IS "Jubbaland" and your 10 year enforced placement ("babysitting") at top of it has yielded absolutely nothing. 0. Zilch.

You remind me of a guy from Beled-Weyne that used to be on here and his "gentlemen's agreement."

The "point" isn't just for some subsidized "squatting." The "point" is circumstantial stabilization and/or "political development" and Madoobe has not and is not capable of it. He has just "squatted."

Your 10 year "nannying" will end in 1 second whether now or tomorrow.

You are NOT = to Marehan weight/influence/primacy in "Jubbaland" and the child born last week can see it.
Take couple seats right over their.

This is nothing but bravado. What Uhuru?
We are still as powerful in Kenya as ever. The new defence minister is Adan Bare Duale. When we first attacked Al Shabab with Kenya 11 years ago, there was no Uhuru but Kibaki. We were able to pull off that master plot because we had an other Ogaden, as Kenya Defence Minister, Yusuf Haji(Rahimahulah). And Somalia today, we hold the Premiership for havensake, plus we have just seen off a Marehan President who has tried everything possible, including by using Ethiopian Commandos, to remove Ahmed-madoobe. Not only did Ahmed-madoobe defeat Farmaajo soundly, he also denied him to select his own Clan's MPs and installed an Ogaden Prime minister.
Total defeat...

Gawd this bores me.

A. There is no "bravado" and that is irrelevant to analyzing the conclusion of Madoobe's 10 years has been nothing but "squatting." That is an "assessment."

B. Just because "Craster" was with the "White Walker's" does not mean Craster = Night King or his kraal the White Walker soldiers.

C. The last 10 years was about the "ocean case", the Night King was Uhuru, and the White Walkers were the KDF.

Madoobe has been nothing more than an "agent."

All of that has ended now. The ocean case is done and the Night King has been replaced.

The only thing left is for the White Walkers ("KDF") to "decommission" the agent and by all accounts---an unceremonious "decommissioning" seems to be what has been agreed to.

[Gubbet]

Would Marehan accept "leading" a Jubaland state that's ultimately controlled by the federal government in Mogadishu?

Jubbaland is part of the Somali Federal Republic.

[Gubbet]

I feel no need to comment here. This isn't a serious discussion.

Nothing more than the ravings of a lunatic.

Your obsession is actually freaky. If everything you said was true you wouldn’t feel the need to comment in the first place, every time a MX even passes gas.

"I feel no need to comment."

So then why the eff is he??