HSM’s Hawiye First Strategy

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Re: HSM’s Hawiye First Strategy

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Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 pm

HSM will "never" be elected by a Somali Parliament after the post-election "unukaa-ism" he pulled.
You said the same thing during NN. :lol:
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Re: HSM’s Hawiye First Strategy

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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:26 pm
Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 pm

HSM will "never" be elected by a Somali Parliament after the post-election "unukaa-ism" he pulled.
You said the same thing during NN. :lol:
Abkoow-

Ok, let me actually address this since I couldn't bother with the irrelevance before (people were only interested in hearing what they wanted to hear so why bother was my thinking).

I had explained even before I left on my trip to Africa 10 months before election;

1. The Janan Deal was the poisoned chalice. I went from sure confidence to seeing Farmajo as just a competitor.
2. My participation up to September Agreement signature was to "prove" Farmajo extension was trick to overcome two Govs stalling.
3. After it was signed almost a year before election, I left the forum on a planned sabbatical to Africa traveling around the Somali territories for reasons of my own.

Abkoow what did I write in my farewell topic 11 months before election?
My final thoughts.

1.NOTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT FOR ANYONE

I support Farmaajo, I want him to win, but if he does, there will be no celebration from me
Where Somalia's entire state building process stands right this second inspires no joy from me.

It is a joke. A complete joke.

To think in 2021, we find Somalia in this Hobbesian nightmare. "Elections" they call; May you forever spend rehabiliting your image Election, if this is what you are!

I speak as a Somali. It is not about who or what you support at this moment. It is about the complete, in your face public freak show making parody of our worst fears about the country's growth.

I mean just look at what is going on; I don't evem want to describe it because of the disgust I feel.

The next government has a huge task ahead of it; CONSTITUTION; COMPLETE THE LEGAL BASIS FOR GOVERNANCE.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p5009372
That was August, 2021---my last comment 11 months before elections. Did that look like someone who believed Farmaajo was invincible? I even used the qualifier "if" he does.

Now Abkoow; two things

1. Recall the strength of my dissent towards the Janan deal and "why" (hint: it was a Marehan case of UNUKAA) it would undo everything (it did).

2. Recall my comments about Hassan Sheikh the "personal character" even while he was the opposition. I always juxtaposed HSM and Sh Sharif and always reserved possible political support to HSM for that reason.

Exactly why Farmajo wasn't reelected is why HSM will not be reelected except whereas Farmaajo's "unukaa" was unenforced error, HSM's is SHAMELESS WITH IMPUNITY. Farmajo lost 1 election; HSM lost the the "entire" Somali imagination including the conclusion on the history books.
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Re: HSM’s Hawiye First Strategy

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Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:08 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:26 pm
Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 pm

HSM will "never" be elected by a Somali Parliament after the post-election "unukaa-ism" he pulled.
You said the same thing during NN. :lol:
Abkoow-

Ok, let me actually address this since I couldn't bother with the irrelevance before (people were only interested in hearing what they wanted to hear so why bother was my thinking).

I had explained even before I left on my trip to Africa 10 months before election;

1. The Janan Deal was the poisoned chalice. I went from sure confidence to seeing Farmajo as just a competitor.
2. My participation up to September Agreement signature was to "prove" Farmajo extension was trick to overcome two Govs stalling.
3. After it was signed almost a year before election, I left the forum on a planned sabbatical to Africa traveling around the Somali territories for reasons of my own.

Abkoow what did I write in my farewell topic 11 months before election?
My final thoughts.

1.NOTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT FOR ANYONE

I support Farmaajo, I want him to win, but if he does, there will be no celebration from me
Where Somalia's entire state building process stands right this second inspires no joy from me.

It is a joke. A complete joke.

To think in 2021, we find Somalia in this Hobbesian nightmare. "Elections" they call; May you forever spend rehabiliting your image Election, if this is what you are!

I speak as a Somali. It is not about who or what you support at this moment. It is about the complete, in your face public freak show making parody of our worst fears about the country's growth.

I mean just look at what is going on; I don't evem want to describe it because of the disgust I feel.

The next government has a huge task ahead of it; CONSTITUTION; COMPLETE THE LEGAL BASIS FOR GOVERNANCE.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p5009372
That was August, 2021---my last comment 11 months before elections. Did that look like someone who believed Farmaajo was invincible? I even used the qualifier "if" he does.

Now Abkoow; two things

1. Recall the strength of my dissent towards the Janan deal and "why" (hint: it was a Marehan case of UNUKAA) it would undo everything (it did).

2. Recall my comments about Hassan Sheikh the "personal character" even while he was the opposition. I always juxtaposed HSM and Sh Sharif and always reserved possible political support to HSM for that reason.

Exactly why Farmajo wasn't reelected is why HSM will not be reelected except whereas Farmaajo's "unukaa" was unenforced error, HSM's is SHAMELESS WITH IMPUNITY. Farmajo lost 1 election; HSM lost the the "entire" Somali imagination including the conclusion on the history books.
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Re: HSM’s Hawiye First Strategy

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Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:08 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:26 pm
Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 pm

HSM will "never" be elected by a Somali Parliament after the post-election "unukaa-ism" he pulled.
You said the same thing during NN. :lol:
Abkoow-

Ok, let me actually address this since I couldn't bother with the irrelevance before (people were only interested in hearing what they wanted to hear so why bother was my thinking).

I had explained even before I left on my trip to Africa 10 months before election;

1. The Janan Deal was the poisoned chalice. I went from sure confidence to seeing Farmajo as just a competitor.
2. My participation up to September Agreement signature was to "prove" Farmajo extension was trick to overcome two Govs stalling.
3. After it was signed almost a year before election, I left the forum on a planned sabbatical to Africa traveling around the Somali territories for reasons of my own.

Abkoow what did I write in my farewell topic 11 months before election?
My final thoughts.

1.NOTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT FOR ANYONE

I support Farmaajo, I want him to win, but if he does, there will be no celebration from me
Where Somalia's entire state building process stands right this second inspires no joy from me.

It is a joke. A complete joke.

To think in 2021, we find Somalia in this Hobbesian nightmare. "Elections" they call; May you forever spend rehabiliting your image Election, if this is what you are!

I speak as a Somali. It is not about who or what you support at this moment. It is about the complete, in your face public freak show making parody of our worst fears about the country's growth.

I mean just look at what is going on; I don't evem want to describe it because of the disgust I feel.

The next government has a huge task ahead of it; CONSTITUTION; COMPLETE THE LEGAL BASIS FOR GOVERNANCE.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p5009372
That was August, 2021---my last comment 11 months before elections. Did that look like someone who believed Farmaajo was invincible? I even used the qualifier "if" he does.

Now Abkoow; two things

1. Recall the strength of my dissent towards the Janan deal and "why" (hint: it was a Marehan case of UNUKAA) it would undo everything (it did).

2. Recall my comments about Hassan Sheikh the "personal character" even while he was the opposition. I always juxtaposed HSM and Sh Sharif and always reserved possible political support to HSM for that reason.

Exactly why Farmajo wasn't reelected is why HSM will not be reelected except whereas Farmaajo's "unukaa" was unenforced error, HSM's is SHAMELESS WITH IMPUNITY. Farmajo lost 1 election; HSM lost the the "entire" Somali imagination including the conclusion on the history books.
Gubbet,

I though y’all were better than this. This amount of time twisting the truth makes my blood boil as a REALIST WHO LIVES 100% on the truth. Farmaajo was highly popular amongst all Somalis but in reality only xamar votes for the president. The rest are just for show. HAG politicians have used their clan supporters to threaten war in xamar if farmaajo wins fairly or unfairly. There’s no way ON GODS GREEN EARTH SOMALIS OTHER THAN HAG would’ve voted for HSM. Like it or not as long as xamar is the capital and dominated by HAG, the presidency is reserved for hawiye 80%+ of the time. How how do you think they got three back to back presidents? Let’s be real! Being real sets you free and you don’t have to do gymnastics on your brain. If the capital wasn’t xamar, farmaajo would’ve came back easily.
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Re: HSM’s Hawiye First Strategy

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Gubbet wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:12 pm
original dervish wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:01 pm As long as hsm government continues to fight AS he has my full support.

Furthermore, his statement on the ongoing genocide was very timely and welcome
The law of diminishing returns says we do not have to wait that long until no one can seriously even feign assuming HSM is "fighting Shabab."

Let me tell you something OD; Afghanistan fell to the Taliban for this false gimmicky "publicity campaign."

People would rather cut corners and take creatine or even steroids than go to the gym every other day, eat healthy,and changing lifetsyle.

HSM is steroids shots. That's not muscle in his bulging biceps, that's water.

Shabab has 1 proscription and only 1; the long, painful, hard, and even slow building a capable army and fixing mal administration.

HSM is wasting an entire nation's time.
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Gubbet you are right regarding HSM and his DamulShabaab being the problem for your country.........but Darods are not the solution at all
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From now on, no iidoor or faqash should be allowed to assume presidential powers in Skinnstan. The keys to the much coveted Villa Somalia must be entrusted exclusively to the hands of the qabiil that, for all intents and purposes, constitutes, by far, the majority in the Peninsula, namely, the noble/mighty hawiye. No more treacherous laangaab running the country.
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