Irir Samaale, meet Ilmo Jaberti; A/rahman Ismail Jaberti (Darod) & Ali Ismail Jaberti (Digil & Mirifle).

[Khalid Ali]

it was sure a politial alliance between hawiye and isaaq in the 1960- between cigaal and cali jimcaale the hawiye pan iririst.

but we have always been the sadaat nation



good one gubbet xabada ka gabbo looool

Indeed, don’t forget the donkey cigaal was betrayed by hawiye who decided to share power with darod lol.

Irir alliance is between hawiye and darod

when ina cigaal and ina jimcaale lost the ele elections in 1964 it was cigaal who forged ties with the darood and abdirashid sharmarke

and in 1991 it was abgaal who betrayed the isaaq and hawiye alliance when they declared ali mahdi president

it wasnt really even though ali mahdi made umar arte his prime minister there was no darood post 1991 in sight the first darood pm was in 2000
not in the 1990s the hawiyes darood alliance was dead for over ten years it was abdiqasim who made ali khalid prime minsiter and then after 2000 there was a hawiye darood alliance and there was a darood hawiye alliance from 1960 till 1967

so there was 27 years a darood hawiye alliance ur right

[Khalid Ali]

best p ALI GUray never said such a thing stop lying he called selebaan gaal waslad xaraan

absamme are bunch of oromo not even Somalis not even Daroods

if u were darood u would not be shipped away from ur ancesterial homeland in Puntland u claim that u all hail from that region , but are not u are Ethiopian oromo people who later adopted the darood identity or the kabalalax identity hadaad darood tiihin mj kuma dhiibeen tigray

[mahoka]

it was sure a politial alliance between hawiye and isaaq in the 1960- between cigaal and cali jimcaale the hawiye pan iririst.

but we have always been the sadaat nation



good one gubbet xabada ka gabbo looool

Indeed, don’t forget the donkey cigaal was betrayed by hawiye who decided to share power with darod lol.

Irir alliance is between hawiye and darod

when ina cigaal and ina jimcaale lost the ele elections in 1964 it was cigaal who forged ties with the darood and abdirashid sharmarke

and in 1991 it was abgaal who betrayed the isaaq and hawiye alliance when they declared ali mahdi president

it wasnt really even though ali mahdi made umar arte his prime minister there was no darood post 1991 in sight the first darood pm was in 2000
not in the 1990s the hawiyes darood alliance was dead for over ten years it was abdiqasim who made ali khalid prime minsiter and then after 2000 there was a hawiye darood alliance and there was a darood hawiye alliance from 1960 till 1967

so there was 27 years a darood hawiye alliance ur right

Not only 27 years but at least from 1960 to 2023 there is an alliance between darod and hawiye from the first hawiye president who was very close to darod (his wife was darod from bendir qasim)

Even cigaal was made a pm by a darod president not hawiye


Only time there was an alliance between isaaq and hawiye was briefly between 1988 to 1991 and that was a common war against barre which even other darod such as ssdf abd spm joined


Even today, hsm the hawiye has done more for dhulbahante than farmaajo, farmaajo a darod man literally said to a darod woman from lascanood/buhodle to go away cuz he had no answer for her in public on media, hsm has been crying for dhulo freedom since he came to power



Any isaaq who says there is an alliance between hawiye and isaaq is a tuug getting paid to say it, it’s akin to saying there is an alliance between isaaq and darod

[theyuusuf143]

Nonsense eeleye are not a unified clan with a main ancestry there are hawiye who are eeleye there are isaaq who are eeleye there are bantu who are eeleye there are cadcad who are eeleye and certainly there are darood that are eeeley but to claim eeleeys intoa jeberti confederation is just wrong

Meeshaa dad baa lakala boobaya ee intaada sunto , iska dhaafa khuraafaad kan iyo carab iska dhigdhigan. Half of eelay are sacad muuse yaan daarood Ku kaaga dheerayn

Aduunyada wax la dhaqdo dadbaa u muhiimsan. Dadku waa the greatest asset. Weligaa dad badan uruurso ,

Adduunka wax ka reer magaalsan ninkaan Yusuf ah indho maan saarin

Waa run wacadalla, a nation's #1 resource is her human resource

Ninkaan Khalid ah is from the past, he is like a caveman during the transition to agriculture. When people were realizing the value of the plow, his prestige would have been about the bud or club. Sxb do you know why the West embraced immigration? Value, capital, labor, ingenuity, expansion.

I am a Yes vote on Ilmo Jaberti for the same reason your fathers got implicated in "Irir (Urur) Samaale"

Wiilkayga wiilkiisu will never be reer Burco. I would rather live with my biimaal cousins who are more progressive than isaaq . They even naturalized their former slaves. So I have both jileec and jareer Tol, My grandfather father lived among them for decades . I really feel embarrassed when I see isaaq carabta iska dhaadhicinaya walaalihiina Ka ordaya . Kaaga darane kuway u ordayaana bahdil bay kala kulmaan iyo cunsuriyad. Kuway Ka ordayaana gar iyo gardaraba way nagu taageeran. Isaaq future is not bright if they don't change their attitude.

[Khalid Ali]

the darood alliance started from 2000 till 2023 thats 23 years
and seven years from 1960 till 1967 so ur right its thrity years

but i dont think Hassan sheikh is hostile towards Somalilands with the whole laascanood fiasco

he is actually good he called Somaliland dowlada Somaliland and then the darood whent mad and crazy

yeah it was true the cigaal made a deal with the MJS to share the leadership because addan cadde didnt want to make an alliance in the begining , what people dont understand the MJ were well integrated into mogadishu politics because of the shared colonial rule with their hawiye kin

[theyuusuf143]

No such thing as an iirir samaale its all a boogeyman that keeps ilma jeberti awake at night


the same way darood ugu darsadeen the the oromo run away slaves called ogaden to boost their numbers

Ogaden iyo Iidoor Midkee baa bilaa nasab ah ?


Ogaadeen Absame
Jidwaaq Absame
Baalcad Absame
Wayteen Absame


waa afartaa ilma Absame .Rag ku midaysan deegaan iyo abtirsiin labadaba ??



Horta idoor garac haduu san ahayn ayaa dhalay ? yaase la dhashay ?


Iidoorka bilaa haybta ah ee maalin Carab sheegta maalin a Irir iyo Hawiye miyaa rag kale Oromo ku sheegay!

Sacad Muuse soow kala bar ma aha Oromo,gaar ahaan Jaarsa iyo Akiishe

Akisho and jaarso are ogaden and breed with you, they got nothing to do with sacad muse

As for origins, isaaq has all Arabic and Muslim names while darod has Ethiopian and babtu names such as geri koombe kuumbe, darod tribe has huge association with waaq the oromo sky god - jidwaaq, cabudwaaq kkkkkk you were oromo pagans before isaaq forced you to adopt Islam and speak somali language

Hooyadaa siilkeedii baa ogaadena , they are noble Dir clans . Akishe and Jaarso waa la yaqaan waa niman Dir ah , cid nagu qabsan kartaana ma jirto. Sidaad doonaysa inaad u noolaato horta markad ummada ilaahay oo dhan iska faquuqdo. now I understand waxay isaaqa qaar idiinla collooben. inan gumeed yahaw Arab Ku barsuugooda laabtay Ku haystan adna akishe oo aad gebiley wada degtaan baad iska fogaynaysa. These people can Open doors for us in galbeeed. In fact muj maxamed cali first comrades were jaarso. Even the current chairman of SNM veterans (sooyaal) is akishe .

[theyuusuf143]

dad la aan na ma hayso ilmaaderedey carabta iga badan

by the way the eeleye are worthless people why would i want to claim a few subclans beri hore naga tagay oo dhiigooodi fadaroobay when they mixed with those bantus

Meeye markaa ilmaaderada , as far as I know your cousin is SANBUUR maalin walbana waxad Ku faantaa wuxu tower geeska Africa Ka taagay , I never seen your qaxnaan or cadnaan cousins.

[Khalid Ali]

they are fine our cousins are in Yemen saudi arabia darcaan ma maqashay reer darcaan reer sheikh isxaaq darcaan in yemen bay degenyihin dadkaaso oo dhan wa tolkayo

sanbuurka dhiigshiil waan tageera wa halyey isaaq ah from the habar xabuusheed ayaadayo oo xabashiyad tigraaywi ba no dhashay

[theyuusuf143]

they are fine our cousins are in Yemen saudi arabia darcaan ma maqashay reer darcaan reer sheikh isxaaq darcaan in yemen bay degenyihin dadkaaso oo dhan wa tolkayo

sanbuurka dhiigshiil waan tageera wa halyey isaaq ah from the habar xabuusheed ayaadayo oo xabashiyad tigraaywi ba no dhashay

These are arab sheekh isaxaaq , taking behind enemy lines . Halkani waa dhagaxle 30 KM jigjiga shishadeeda. A place owned by barsuug arab. Adna wajaale dhanna umaad dhaafin , Sacad muuse dad iyo dhul toona kumay soo kordhin isaaq. Iska dhaaf waxay kusoo kordhiyane intii aanu haysana soo uruurtay dad yaraan awgeed. Dadka badsada hooyadiin iyo adoomahad carabta u tihiinba wasee .

[BestP]

Mahoka

You can run with a lie but you can't hide from the truth.It will catch you

The plain truth is, Sacad Muse are heavily mixed with Oromo.


"This includes the Akisho clan of the Oromos, who are scattered in small groups among the Habr Awal Isaaq.
The Isaaq intermarry with them and recognize their right to own land. These maintain their identity as Oromos but are accepted on equal status by the Somalis, being under the protection of Habr Awal lineages.
When an Akisho lineage wished to join a Habr Awal group, they were adopted without any protest save from the other Akisho who were losing members."


[Area Handbook for Somalia: Co-authors: Irving Kaplan [et Al.] Research and Writing Were Completed on June 15, 1969
Front Cover
American University (Washington, D.C.). Foreign Area Studies
U.S. Government Printing Office, 1969 - Somalia - 455 pages
Page 93]

[BestP]

best p ALI GUray never said such a thing stop lying he called selebaan gaal waslad xaraan

absamme are bunch of oromo not even Somalis not even Daroods

if u were darood u would not be shipped away from ur ancesterial homeland in Puntland u claim that u all hail from that region , but are not u are Ethiopian oromo people who later adopted the darood identity or the kabalalax identity hadaad darood tiihin mj kuma dhiibeen tigray

[theyuusuf143]

As a habarjeclo I confirm akishe are our brothers .

[BestP]

As a habarjeclo I confirm akishe are our brothers .

This includes the Akisho clan of the Oromos, who are scattered in small groups among the Habr Awal Isaaq

[theyuusuf143]

As a habarjeclo I confirm akishe are our brothers .

This includes the Akisho clan of the Oromos, who are scattered in small groups among the Habr Awal Isaaq

Yes both of them . Somali speaking akishe and oromo speaking akishe are both Dir . Even my isaaq habarjeclo Clan is Half Oromo and we are Dir.

[Khalid Ali]

Anigu aduunka daroodka nijaassta baa ugu necbahay akishe are much more noble then these filthy jeberti vermins I agree with this

But the yusuuuf to say habar awal have small territory it’s false. Habar awal live from north jigjiga to berbera to sheikh cidi ma dhex degto xita jigjigadan anaga magaalayney. Even there is ali awal who live in wollo Ethiopia we are subeer awal and they are ali awal . But I don’t subscribe to the whole dir thing it’s. Fake and made up. Isaaq was never dir The isaaq mahe dir was made up when isaaq was small in africa the dir were the protectors and allies of isaaq but slowely as isaaq grew it grew larger then the dir it’s self the dir called. Isaaaq. Mahe dir it’s a made name. For to point is isaaq mahe. Dir which means isaaq maha dir in somali the wording says it It was a hidden messege it was always known that isaaq isn’t dir geneology wise ancestrrial wise but there was gaashaanbuur so the isaaq mahe dir means ISAAQ MAHA DIR . Be proud of ur sayid status from the pure line of the holy imams. From imam Ali to Hussien to immam jafar asadiq and. Mohammed al baqir and ali al rida. These are our holy ancestors sheikh isxaaq waliyullah karramallahu wadju