Reer somaliland crying about US Somalia ambassador for referring to them as Somalia

[MrSinister]

The world doesn’t see Somaliland as different from Puntland. Both are autonomous, stable but unrecognized regions in Somalia. Reer Somaliland need to stop embarrassing themselves by claiming the international community treats them different. If reer SL were smart, they would work with Puntland to build a confederation government in Somalia.

[Khalid Ali]

What you don’t get is we were part of a country once callled the Somali republic never part of Somalia . Somalia and somaliland were both members of a country called the Somali republic.
Now since the collapse there is no Somali republic. And Somalia only represents the bunker . Third u said puntland is anrecognized. Region ur right but is puntland loooking for a diplomatic recognition as a sovereign state . I guess not so why are y being disengeous. We don’t want anything to do with Somalia but since u want confederalism u should work with somaliland to help you conquer the bunker in exchange u support Somaliland independence win win since then both we get what we want us our independent sadaat nation u ruling the bunker . Win win

[MrSinister]

What you don’t get is we were part of a country once callled the Somali republic never part of Somalia . Somalia and somaliland were both members of a country called the Somali republic.
Now since the collapse there is no Somali republic. And Somalia only represents the bunker . Third u said puntland is anrecognized. Region ur right but is puntland loooking for a diplomatic recognition as a sovereign state . I guess not so why are y being disengeous. We don’t want anything to do with Somalia but since u want confederalism u should work with somaliland to help you conquer the bunker in exchange u support Somaliland independence win win since then both we get what we want us our independent sadaat nation u ruling the bunker . Win win

I agree with you that Somaliland will never come back. Somali’s have to accept that. The only issue we have is SSC. Those people will also never be part of Somaliland.

I also don’t think reer puntland want anything to do with the bunker anymore. The hawiye use the capital to hold the rest of the country hostage and can threaten any non-hawiye president. It’s not tenable long term. That’s why a confederation system works. I could see perhaps Somaliland (without SSC) going their own way with the rest of Somalia under confederation system.

[original dervish]

No serious analyst believes SL will ever become independent. Just ain't gonna happen.

With SSC gone it's even more unlikely.

[MrSinister]

No serious analyst believes SL will ever become independent. Just ain't gonna happen.

With SSC gone it's even more unlikely.

Let’s be honest, they have more of a government than hassan dameer who is protected by African troops and doesn’t control shit

[Isseayaanle]

No serious analyst believes SL will ever become independent. Just ain't gonna happen.

With SSC gone it's even more unlikely.

I actually believe they would’ve became a country and successful, but they did not please the people of Awdal and SSC. They tried to create a clan state under the cover of something else. Once Awdal and SSC realized that, they said go F yourselves. And now only Habar Awal/ Jeclo are still on board. The rest aren’t.

[Isseayaanle]

What you don’t get is we were part of a country once callled the Somali republic never part of Somalia . Somalia and somaliland were both members of a country called the Somali republic.
Now since the collapse there is no Somali republic. And Somalia only represents the bunker . Third u said puntland is anrecognized. Region ur right but is puntland loooking for a diplomatic recognition as a sovereign state . I guess not so why are y being disengeous. We don’t want anything to do with Somalia but since u want confederalism u should work with somaliland to help you conquer the bunker in exchange u support Somaliland independence win win since then both we get what we want us our independent sadaat nation u ruling the bunker . Win win

I agree with you that Somaliland will never come back. Somali’s have to accept that. The only issue we have is SSC. Those people will also never be part of Somaliland.

I also don’t think reer puntland want anything to do with the bunker anymore. The hawiye use the capital to hold the rest of the country hostage and can threaten any non-hawiye president. It’s not tenable long term. That’s why a confederation system works. I could see perhaps Somaliland (without SSC) going their own way with the rest of Somalia under confederation system.

The million dollar question is how long will Hutus keep control of the capital and the presidency from the rest of Somalis. Because this is not sustainable long-term.

[Khalid Ali]

Mr sinister on the ssc issue I think the dhulbahante and warsangali if really addressed especially the dhulbahante have nothing against an independent somaliland. For example the whole reason why some dhulbahante prefer a unified Somalia and somaliland is nothing but some fear of isaaq domination what they don’t know is that most of the isaaq subclans are not United on leading somaliland but they are United on a seperate indepdendent somaliland and never be under Mogadishu that’s why samaroon understood the game and rules for eight years and have the vp for more then 23 years . Now let’s move forward what do dhulbahante gain from the bunker surely no political seats or any othe benefit. The isaaq traitors are treated better in the bunker then the dhulbahante. Now again I don’t think puntland had an issue with ssc being part of sl for the past 15 years they have used lipservice and the dhulbahante wanted puntland due to kinship is no longer there . It’s better for puntland to support somaliland territorial integrity for they don’t lose anything at all and have a good neighbourly ties

[MrSinister]

Khalid

Forget warsangeli, they are 100% puntland and are fully integrated into the state. They are big players in puntland and have big stake in bossaso.

The dhulbahante are another story, some of them were pro Somaliland, but the latest clashes in Sool have turned them all against you. The thing with dhulbahante is that their diaspora is completely motivated against you. That’s where the organization and funding against Somaliland comes from. They have more animosity against you than Mj or other Darod. For that reason, realistically they will never part of Somaliland.

So you have only two option, give up on SSC and hope Somalia/Puntland agrees to a two state solution. The other option is you take over SSC cities by force. The truth is, Somaliland doesn’t have the military strength to be an occupying force as they were easily removed in Laas canood.

[original dervish]

Khalid you are correct in your analysis.......however, things on the ground have changed. The tectonic plates have shifted against being part of SL and towards an autonomous SSC state of Somalia.

A lot of the new found political fervour is mostly based on emotion and tribalism, which doesn't bode well for the future. The fact still remains that the people have rejected SL......it will be impossible for any Dhulbahante leader to openly support SL without being deposed.

I really can't see a way back for SL. Attacking the Holy city and slaughtering its inhabitants is not a feasible option.

[mahoka]

Khalid you are correct in your analysis.......however, things on the ground have changed. The tectonic plates have shifted against being part of SL and towards an autonomous SSC state of Somalia.

A lot of the new found political fervour is mostly based on emotion and tribalism, which doesn't bode well for the future. The fact still remains that the people have rejected SL......it will be impossible for any Dhulbahante leader to openly support SL without being deposed.

I really can't see a way back for SL. Attacking the Holy city and slaughtering its inhabitants is not a feasible option.

Khalid is just invested in biixi government due to tribalism but he is lying, isaaq subclans see samaroon as countrymen while we see dhulbahante as captured territory and no eastern darod would ever be given important position (specially after 2009 when ogaden and kdf invaded Somalia) there is no trust. In fact, most isaaq would be ok with samaroon or ciise becoming president rather than their isaaq rivals- this is why Dahir riyaale was the man for garxajis

Dhulo and warsangeli will be part of the negotiation package between hargeisa and Mogadishu in the future


In the meantime, the gov should leave them alone and focus on pro SL communities of sool such as hj hy and fiqishni.

Biixi the donkey is politically destroyed by this tho, this is why Khalid is in denial. A reer samatar monkey like biixi was found out to have no balls, all the tough talk and nothing came of it / we love to see it. Qudhmiye is dead

[Isseayaanle]

Khalid you are correct in your analysis.......however, things on the ground have changed. The tectonic plates have shifted against being part of SL and towards an autonomous SSC state of Somalia.

A lot of the new found political fervour is mostly based on emotion and tribalism, which doesn't bode well for the future. The fact still remains that the people have rejected SL......it will be impossible for any Dhulbahante leader to openly support SL without being deposed.

I really can't see a way back for SL. Attacking the Holy city and slaughtering its inhabitants is not a feasible option.

Khalid is just invested in biixi government due to tribalism but he is lying, isaaq subclans see samaroon as countrymen while we see dhulbahante as captured territory and no eastern darod would ever be given important position (specially after 2009 when ogaden and kdf invaded Somalia) there is no trust. In fact, most isaaq would be ok with samaroon or ciise becoming president rather than their isaaq rivals- this is why Dahir riyaale was the man for garxajis

Dhulo and warsangeli will be part of the negotiation package between hargeisa and Mogadishu in the future


In the meantime, the gov should leave them alone and focus on pro SL communities of sool such as hj hy and fiqishni.

Biixi the donkey is politically destroyed by this tho, this is why Khalid is in denial. A reer samatar monkey like biixi was found out to have no balls, all the tough talk and nothing came of it / we love to see it. Qudhmiye is dead

When Somaliland eventually becomes FMS, they and putland can’t have SSC. SSC will eventually become its own FMS. Because no FMS can have more than others. Also, I think realistically in the future, we will have a north/South power sharing agreement with pm and Prez. But that still means Idoors (Habar awal/Jeclo) will have to compete with DULBHANTE, Warsangali, Garaxaajis and Samaroon with that seat. That’s what scares habar awal/Jeclo the most and is the reason today they still refuse to be with Somalia. Anyways, SSC will not if their own FMS. Other Somalis are going to except putland with extra states and Somaliland with 5 states. That shit will make no damn sense.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Khalid you are correct in your analysis.......however, things on the ground have changed. The tectonic plates have shifted against being part of SL and towards an autonomous SSC state of Somalia.

A lot of the new found political fervour is mostly based on emotion and tribalism, which doesn't bode well for the future. The fact still remains that the people have rejected SL......it will be impossible for any Dhulbahante leader to openly support SL without being deposed.

I really can't see a way back for SL. Attacking the Holy city and slaughtering its inhabitants is not a feasible option.

How much they wanna be us. I get it. I get it. The sauce is here. That’s why those memes backfired. It was written. Two flags two real Cs

[mahoka]

Khalid you are correct in your analysis.......however, things on the ground have changed. The tectonic plates have shifted against being part of SL and towards an autonomous SSC state of Somalia.

A lot of the new found political fervour is mostly based on emotion and tribalism, which doesn't bode well for the future. The fact still remains that the people have rejected SL......it will be impossible for any Dhulbahante leader to openly support SL without being deposed.

I really can't see a way back for SL. Attacking the Holy city and slaughtering its inhabitants is not a feasible option.

Khalid is just invested in biixi government due to tribalism but he is lying, isaaq subclans see samaroon as countrymen while we see dhulbahante as captured territory and no eastern darod would ever be given important position (specially after 2009 when ogaden and kdf invaded Somalia) there is no trust. In fact, most isaaq would be ok with samaroon or ciise becoming president rather than their isaaq rivals- this is why Dahir riyaale was the man for garxajis

Dhulo and warsangeli will be part of the negotiation package between hargeisa and Mogadishu in the future


In the meantime, the gov should leave them alone and focus on pro SL communities of sool such as hj hy and fiqishni.

Biixi the donkey is politically destroyed by this tho, this is why Khalid is in denial. A reer samatar monkey like biixi was found out to have no balls, all the tough talk and nothing came of it / we love to see it. Qudhmiye is dead

When Somaliland eventually becomes FMS, they and putland can’t have SSC. SSC will eventually become its own FMS. Because no FMS can have more than others. Also, I think realistically in the future, we will have a north/South power sharing agreement with pm and Prez. But that still means Idoors (Habar awal/Jeclo) will have to compete with DULBHANTE, Warsangali, Garaxaajis and Samaroon with that seat. That’s what scares habar awal/Jeclo the most and is the reason today they still refuse to be with Somalia. Anyways, SSC will not if their own FMS. Other Somalis are going to except putland with extra states and Somaliland with 5 states. That shit will make no damn sense.

My langaab friend the decisions will be made by the big boys, you guys will sit and do what you are told. The days of minority appeasement are over. Dhulo and warsangeli future will be decided by hargeisa and Mogadishu.

[Khalid Ali]

Khalid you are correct in your analysis.......however, things on the ground have changed. The tectonic plates have shifted against being part of SL and towards an autonomous SSC state of Somalia.

A lot of the new found political fervour is mostly based on emotion and tribalism, which doesn't bode well for the future. The fact still remains that the people have rejected SL......it will be impossible for any Dhulbahante leader to openly support SL without being deposed.

I really can't see a way back for SL. Attacking the Holy city and slaughtering its inhabitants is not a feasible option.

Khalid is just invested in biixi government due to tribalism but he is lying, isaaq subclans see samaroon as countrymen while we see dhulbahante as captured territory and no eastern darod would ever be given important position (specially after 2009 when ogaden and kdf invaded Somalia) there is no trust. In fact, most isaaq would be ok with samaroon or ciise becoming president rather than their isaaq rivals- this is why Dahir riyaale was the man for garxajis

Dhulo and warsangeli will be part of the negotiation package between hargeisa and Mogadishu in the future


In the meantime, the gov should leave them alone and focus on pro SL communities of sool such as hj hy and fiqishni.

Biixi the donkey is politically destroyed by this tho, this is why Khalid is in denial. A reer samatar monkey like biixi was found out to have no balls, all the tough talk and nothing came of it / we love to see it. Qudhmiye is dead

So what do u want us to do. To killl all dhulbahantes and then. Take over their land. That will never last or willl last for mahlube a few years but not in the long run I don’t see how that can work