A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherization.

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A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherization.

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3 Disclaimers
  • Ogaden otherize Marehan as a matter of state politics in Somali Region, Ethiopia to dispossess them politically from vast equities in Doollo and Korahe districts to which they are due entitlement by the grace and justice of God.
  • Ogaden have even weaponized aspects of foreign links by way of Garissa to try the continuing exploitative attempt to try to dispossess Marehan politically of his foundational equities in Jubbaland to which they are due entitlement by the grace and justice of God.
  • Jamal Osman has used and even violated journalistic credentials in the stunningly unethical and profoundly immoral destabilizing role effected even in continuing personal attacks against the Farmajo admin predicated on the first two disclaimers above.


3 Condemnations
  1. I condemn any stench, whiff, or sign of anti-Ogaden xenophobia or otherization in any Somalia national policy or reflection. Jokes or banter or "fkd" is one thing; even political "posturing" & "campaigning," but Policy, government authority, and power brought to bear is something totally different. It is not even about "decency." It is an attack with very serious Geneva Convention implications. Go back to "jinni & Jigjiga" from the mouths of a government agent implicated in a highly controversial arrival & customs matter is a moral and Legal challenge the size which returns crisis. This is a tumor; it is in, it is there, and it will grow until you cannot bear it.
    • Ogaden are Aulihan from Bardere to Berhani. They are Mohamed Zuber of Afmadow. They are Makabul of Badhadhe. They are Abdalle of Jooreey. They are part of Absame of Kismayu and Bakol and Benadir. They are Darod and Somalis of Somalia.

  2. I condemn PM Hamza. I condemn Ahmed Madoobe. I condemn them in the name of Ogaden. In the name of Darod. In the name of Somali. Since, I am not Ogaden, I will defer any further statement on this point for those with primacy in equity namely the implicated Ogaden and their Somalia political representatives.

  3. I condemn Darod. I condemn Puntland. I condemn Siciid Deni. Somalia is 4.5 and the otherization of Ogaden, his history, his equity, to which Darod have shared national spoils with in seats and representation is secondarily an attack on Darod after Ogaden. Particularly with Puntland and its stated policy of federalism and check on rampant abuse from the center and especially Siciid Deni who even has political motive, their silence is intolerable and unacceptable. This should result in equal and opposite effect brought to bear to respond to the challenge created by the attack.Today Ogaden; Tomorrow You.


3 Solutions
  1. The Government must Apologize; completely and categorically for any ethnic, tribal, or social implication in the customs matter which concerned Mr Jamal Osman.
  2. The Government must Retract; even for any possibility of "impression" or "imparting" were it to bring into dispute any of the facts disclosed in the matter.
  3. The Government must Repudiate; any and all tribal, ethnic, or social implication surrounding this customs' case on the grounds of mitigating any effect brought to bear in further continuance of Somalia's ethnic based civil disorder.
This is Aslaax; Order.

This is Somalia with Peace; Under Justice.
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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Nonsense, Jamaal is an Ethiopian national who has ties to a terrorist organisation in Somalia, he should be in prison or deported and banned. Jamal is also a tribalist hiding behind somalinimo - he came out against his own darod cousin farmaajo due to tribal ties with madoobe
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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mahoka wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:33 am Nonsense, Jamaal is an Ethiopian national who has ties to a terrorist organisation in Somalia, he should be in prison or deported and banned. Jamal is also a tribalist hiding behind somalinimo - he came out against his own darod cousin farmaajo due to tribal ties with madoobe
The "Law" is not before the "individual." The "individual" is before the "Law."

Or in other words, the Law is the "controlling" agent, not the "controlled" agent.

This is what is meant by "Supremacy clause" in matters of law and order.

Basically, the Law doesn't respond, changes, or adapts to you because you are good or bad or because you are liked or not liked.

You respond, change, or adapt to the Law---otherwise you have caused a legal offense.

Ogaden are Somalis---they are even Darod Somalis who have national representation under 4.5 legal framework underpinning the basic legitimacy of the current Governing authority.

The Government represented by the agent who said "jinni & Jigjiga" is morally and, more profoundly, constitutionally implicated in a civil and/or legal liability with significant consequences.

That Government is juridically and conscientiously COMPELLED to bear responsibility for discretionary rights enforcing basic supremacy of the Law.

You cannot be "Sheriff" if your "badge" is attacking the "Courthouse."
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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I knew this was written by voltage…. just by the tittle

As for the thread …cut the qiiro jaban.
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:38 am I knew this was written by voltage…. just by the tittle

As for the thread …cut the qiiro jaban.
It is not qiiro or emotional.

It is a deliberate "accounting" of stock.

It is "Gar Naqsi" not really "barooradhiiq" you see.
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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Gubbet are u back at darood nationalism are now defending cagdheer based on the darood principles
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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Gubbet wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:44 am
Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:38 am I knew this was written by voltage…. just by the tittle

As for the thread …cut the qiiro jaban.
It is not qiiro or emotional.

It is a deliberate "accounting" of stock.

It is "Gar Naqsi" not really "barooradhiiq" you see.
Find the “gar naqsi “ for gedo.
Nacas Jamal …is unprofessional journalist and qabileste jaahil..not to mention a terrorist sympathizer..he deserved whatever happened to him .
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Notice how he didn’t condemn farmajo? You should condemn farmajo first and foremost, he is the one who abused hutus for 5 years in Mogadishu, now the Hutus want payback and using his tactics
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MrSinister wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:48 am Notice how he didn’t condemn farmajo? You should condemn farmajo first and foremost, he is the one who abused hutus for 5 years in Mogadishu, now the Hutus want payback and using his tactics
The same “Hutus” who hated on their own and betray their own for money. We should never apologize for being elected and then defeated. Not our fault, they are natural born haters. Notice I put in captions. Read that how you want. But I do condemn the mistreatment of Jamal even though I find HIS views repugnant
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Khalid Ali wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:03 am Gubbet are u back at darood nationalism are now defending cagdheer based on the darood principles
I am for Justice. Always.

If it is for family, I will seek it as family. If it is for kin, I will seek it as kin. If it is for that human being there, I will seek it as human.

Justice is my shirt, the color is only a novelty.

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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 am
Gubbet wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:44 am
Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:38 am I knew this was written by voltage…. just by the tittle

As for the thread …cut the qiiro jaban.
It is not qiiro or emotional.

It is a deliberate "accounting" of stock.

It is "Gar Naqsi" not really "barooradhiiq" you see.
Find the “gar naqsi “ for gedo.
Nacas Jamal …is unprofessional journalist and qabileste jaahil..not to mention a terrorist sympathizer..he deserved whatever happened to him .
My gar naqsi for Gedo & Marehan is so internalized it is reflected in my disclaimer to the argument for Jamal & Ogadeni justice.

I can even say my strong desire for Marehan justice contributes to my desire for everyone else's justice.

The Koran says if but one saves a soul, he has saved all of humanity and the Sunnah says one is not part of the Prophet's community unless and until they desire for their brother what what they desire for themselves.

I condemn the injustice of this case because I value justice for justice. I don't require Mr Jamal Osman's transaction to substantiate this value.
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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MrSinister wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:48 am Notice how he didn’t condemn farmajo? You should condemn farmajo first and foremost, he is the one who abused hutus for 5 years in Mogadishu, now the Hutus want payback and using his tactics
The individuals identified by name for criticism have had their dereliction of duty criticized for "enabling" this transgression while endowed with legitimate authority and powers of office.
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Gubbet wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:49 pm
MrSinister wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:48 am Notice how he didn’t condemn farmajo? You should condemn farmajo first and foremost, he is the one who abused hutus for 5 years in Mogadishu, now the Hutus want payback and using his tactics
The individuals identified by name for criticism have had their dereliction of duty criticized for "enabling" this transgression while endowed with legitimate authority and powers of office.
Two different men, two different styles. I am Hamilton to you. And I am a Scott to you. Why should I apologize to you? When you never gave the space to handle our internal issues. It’s not an ethnic thing. You never had to be strategic to survive. You can’t question us. You grew up in sunshine my friend with institutional advantages being a legacy. Because I am Muslim you won’t deny me my haram. Unlike you, i am real royalty and I carry the burden of the truth. You’re all copies of US. The irony is. I respect the immigrants who did in one generation unlike you. They built you up because of your father. He was greater. Even your tribe and home village knows
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I agree the anti Ogaden bashing needs to stop. Majority of Ogaadens are cool peaceful people and it’s maxmud Saleeban and triangle project kids who are mainly doing the bashing. Maxmud Saleeban because of betrayal from madobe and triangle kids for ogaadens mistreatment of them in DDSI.
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Re: A sober thought: In hindsight,I condemn the treatment of Jamal Osman; of anti-Ogaden xenophobia & latent otherizatio

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Ogaden---Marehan is your brother and substantively part of your "labor union" as "Reer Jubbaland."

Mr Jamal Osman would never, ever, have to face "jinni & Jigjiga" if his labor union in federal Somalia was united in strength.

No authority in Mogadishu would dare cross that powerful bargaining agent, in fact possibly the strongest, across the federal Somalia table.

This is an indictment of your relationship with your brother who would be your keeper.

Mr Jamal Osman has faced the damning misfortune of alienating his would be keeper.
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