This issue has SHOWN me Dhulbahante is "Martial;" the most "MARTIAL" Somali clan.

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This issue has SHOWN me Dhulbahante is "Martial;" the most "MARTIAL" Somali clan.

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From Cruttenden almost 200 years ago to now, every single thing I have read on Dhulbahante never fails to mention they are a "Martial" clan. 100% of every single sociological or anthropological historical reference to them that I have seen has contained "Martial" or some variation of it or has alluded to it.

I have never seen that 100% rate in referencing of my own Marehan whom are disproportionately and even distinctly identified historically as "Martial" in comparison to other Somali groups.

I have not seen it in referencing to other Darods.

I have not seen it in Isaaq; even in referencing to Havar Yonis who are the most historically referenced as martial in what I have read about Isaaq.

And I have not seen it in referencing about Hawiye or other Somalis.

But 100% of the historical referencing of Dhulbahante that I have read has contained some variation or metaphor of "Martial" if it did not contain the word itself.

For example, here is Cruttenden's referencing of them from 180 years ago;

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This ongoing event from "Futada Ina Kaahin na geliya" to "Ninka amar sugaya waa FULAY" to "Xaragaan ku degaalayna is keena" has SHOWN me just exactly what referencing of "Martial" actually meant as an adjective to describe what was being OBSERVED about Dhulbahante.

And no single person represents this phenomenon more than this teenage girl who has rocked Somali imagination with her now, while holding a handgun, infamous twist of "Nabad baa naas la nuugo leh" (The only breast worth suckling is peace) into "ADEER COLAAD BAAN NAAS U YEELEYNAA, COLAAD BAA NAAS LA NUUGO LEH" (OH GOOD SIR, WE'LL FASHION A NEW TIT FOR CONFLICT, STRUGGLE IS THE TEAT WORTH SUCKLING). :lol:

Martial they are; :whew:


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I agree dhulbahante are fighters compare to their BRETHENS of majeerteen and warsangeli. It's still the same. But dhulbahante or generally daarood has always been weak against isaaq. We conquered dhuloos land as fast as the Mongols.
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We are still holding the line against the massed forces of sl Djibouti, HSM, Ethiopia.

For all practical purposes we are fighting alone, except for individual Harti units.

On no less than a dozen occasions we have beaten back sl assaults on the Holy city.
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You can always count on @Gubbet to involve his clan in everything. Can you praise dhulbahante for their bravery without the bakhbakh marehan this marehan that?

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:55 am I agree dhulbahante are fighters
Yuusufkaan runta ku ogaa waa kan. :up:
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:34 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:55 am I agree dhulbahante are fighters
Yuusufkaan runta ku ogaa waa kan. :up:
:lol: dhulbahante can fight better than both warsangeli and majeerteen. By the way where is your fking gurmad. Walaal please jooji inaad Ka ganacsato dareenka walaalaha . Tusaale walaahi baanan weligay nin garxajisa or habar awal ah hiil beena u balan qaadeen. Either waan la dagaal geli lahaa ama waan Ka odayeyn laha mushkilada jirta.
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Re: This issue has SHOWN me Dhulbahante is "Martial;" the most "MARTIAL" Somali clan.

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:42 pm
Gubbet wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:34 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:55 am I agree dhulbahante are fighters
Yuusufkaan runta ku ogaa waa kan. :up:
:lol: dhulbahante can fight better than both warsangeli and majeerteen. By the way where is fking gurmad. Walaal please jooji inaad Ka ganacsato dareenka walaalaha . Tusaale walaahi baanan weligay nin garxajisa or habar awal ah hiil beena u balan qaadeen. Either waan la dagaal geli lahaa ama waan Ka odayeyn laha mushkilada jirta.
Understand very clearly the real reason for the international community statement is predicated on what they call troubling reports of mobilization of militias.

That's not Somaliland nor Dhulbahante already in Conflict.

I told you a million times when and if gurmad that we are implicated in through "boots" will enter.

Those boots are being mobilized as we speak.

You will pull the trigger if it is pulled.
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Fk your boots or mobilization join the war openly and practically. Or take the position to bring an islaax bayna naas. Dhillaa idin dhashay idinka iyo hooyadiin ba inta role kiinu yahay dad Isku Dir.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:07 pm Fk your boots or mobilization join the war openly and practically. Or take the position to bring an islaax bayna naas. Dhillaa idin dhashay idinka iyo hooyadiin ba inta role kiinu yahay dad Isku Dir.
Wallahi it’s a shame. They seem to be the only community fanning the flames of war on this forum. No other community has aided so little and promised so much. I’m struggling to understand the logic behind it. Are they hoping the majerteen join the conflict which will lead to the destruction of Puntland if they fail or Somaliland if they succeed. Are they hoping the Ogaden get sucked in maybe crippling the Ogaden assets and man power. What is the thinking of these people. Everyone and their blind dog knows Dhulbahnte alone is no match for the whole of Isaaq. Why do u want this conflict to go on?
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original dervish wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:08 pm We are still holding the line against the massed forces of sl Djibouti, HSM, Ethiopia.

For all practical purposes we are fighting alone, except for individual Harti units.

On no less than a dozen occasions we have beaten back sl assaults on the Holy city.
Only SL is fighting you. :lol:
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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:58 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:07 pm Fk your boots or mobilization join the war openly and practically. Or take the position to bring an islaax bayna naas. Dhillaa idin dhashay idinka iyo hooyadiin ba inta role kiinu yahay dad Isku Dir.
Wallahi it’s a shame. They seem to be the only community fanning the flames of war on this forum. No other community has aided so little and promised so much. I’m struggling to understand the logic behind it. Are they hoping the majerteen join the conflict which will lead to the destruction of Puntland if they fail or Somaliland if they succeed. Are they hoping the Ogaden get sucked in maybe crippling the Ogaden assets and man power. What is the thinking of these people. Everyone and their blind dog knows Dhulbahnte alone is no match for the whole of Isaaq. Why do u want this conflict to go on?
Get out of their house just like they told you
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Abkowdhilaawe.........try to be honest with yourself.
It's well documented that Djibouti has supplied, and continues to supply heavy armament to SL.

Furthermore, HSM has failed to condemn Djibouti for its act of war and infringement upon Somali sovereignty.
Therefore, HSM is complicit in tyrant Bixi's genocide.
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original dervish wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:10 pm Abkowdhilaawe.........try to be honest with yourself.
It's well documented that Djibouti has supplied, and continues to supply heavy armament to SL.

Furthermore, HSM has failed to condemn Djibouti for its act of war and infringement upon Somali sovereignty.
Therefore, HSM is complicit in tyrant Bixi's genocide.
Any actual proof? Not going to lie. It's hard to trust yiur peoole with the level of fake news, pictures of Syria etc being used. Not to mention the last stunt from the garaad who " got shot at" during live tv.
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:32 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:58 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:07 pm Fk your boots or mobilization join the war openly and practically. Or take the position to bring an islaax bayna naas. Dhillaa idin dhashay idinka iyo hooyadiin ba inta role kiinu yahay dad Isku Dir.
Wallahi it’s a shame. They seem to be the only community fanning the flames of war on this forum. No other community has aided so little and promised so much. I’m struggling to understand the logic behind it. Are they hoping the majerteen join the conflict which will lead to the destruction of Puntland if they fail or Somaliland if they succeed. Are they hoping the Ogaden get sucked in maybe crippling the Ogaden assets and man power. What is the thinking of these people. Everyone and their blind dog knows Dhulbahnte alone is no match for the whole of Isaaq. Why do u want this conflict to go on?
Get out of their house just like they told you


It’s not their house to begin with it’s ours. That’s where ur wrong the sool region is a shared region with isaaq and fiqishini majority they can’t decide what to do with that region . It’s like me I woning the house and the guy who pays the rent starting to claim my house . Malaha dhulka iyo guriga toona
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Khalid Ali wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:12 pm
Gubbet wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:32 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:58 pm

Wallahi it’s a shame. They seem to be the only community fanning the flames of war on this forum. No other community has aided so little and promised so much. I’m struggling to understand the logic behind it. Are they hoping the majerteen join the conflict which will lead to the destruction of Puntland if they fail or Somaliland if they succeed. Are they hoping the Ogaden get sucked in maybe crippling the Ogaden assets and man power. What is the thinking of these people. Everyone and their blind dog knows Dhulbahnte alone is no match for the whole of Isaaq. Why do u want this conflict to go on?
Get out of their house just like they told you


It’s not their house to begin with it’s ours. That’s where ur wrong the sool region is a shared region with isaaq and fiqishini majority they can’t decide what to do with that region . It’s like me I woning the house and the guy who pays the rent starting to claim my house . Malaha dhulka iyo guriga toona
Somali Sacad Muuse ayaad ka tahay, Dhulbahante Queen Victoria ayaa isku kiin keentay & Dhullo fought her for 30 years until airplanes were used. Even then you were only implicated with Dhullo under British Somaliland without resistance for only 15 years before they joined the rest of Somalia signing as USP separate and distinct to you signing as SNL. Dhullo has been Darod for 800 years and running, Somali Republic for 40 years, British Somaliland for 15 years, Puntland for 8 years, and 20 years concurrently as part Somaliland (Las Anod)/part independent (Buuhoodle)/and completely independent (USP post 1991).

It is their house and only their house. You haven't even be the longest guest and in fact considerably less than Somalia has been.

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