Is Xawaadle really Layl Kase?

[Gubbet]

All my life this is probably the most strongly stated and universally acknowledged mythical origins story that I have seen that has had almost all Darod and Hawiye recognizance.

For example, I have observed the "Sacad" is "Makaahiil" mythical origins story has absolutely 0 recognition from both Darod and Hawiye at large. That to me makes it seem like it started as a desperate defense strategy in bitter wars between MX + MJ vs. Og in Doollo wars in the last 200 years seeing as OG and Sacad are the immediate neighbors on both sides of MX+MJ on central plateau.

Yet, there is no such corresponding territorially implicated justification within Layl Kase and Xawaadle and in fact, once again, I have observed universal recognition from both Darod and Hawiye concerning this mythical origins story.

Now---it is Hawiye everywhere that are saying Xawaadle should federate with Layl Kase finally and just fully declare themselves Darood since "they aren't Hawiye."

That is Hawiye everywhere saying that right now

[Tekniko10]

These qabils are not real. People say reer isaaq of Ogaden are toljeclo the former sultanate of isaaq before being dethroned by abdi cisse. They were banished from isaaq people say. These clans are tribal confederations like the Arabs

[GameChanger]

Hawaadle Abtirsi is intact and everyone knows who he is.. Hawaadle is Meyle Samaale and happens to live on the original ajuuran heartland territorial boundaries and to this day and what is the Original Ibrahim Balcadde Samaale group? These were the groups who conquered Mudug between Kismayo and settled there and still live between these territories until this day. Meaning Hawaadle is placed inside it's brotherly territorial zone. The Samaale split into 2 groups one remained behind in the north and one travelled south and founded Mogadishu Sultanate, Ajuraan and Hiraab sultanate they left the north because it became dry land suddenly. The split happened far back as 9th or 10th century. As you can notice they form a ring around original Ajuuran territorial heartland boundaries between Mudug and Kismayo everyone there is Ibrahim Balcadde Samaale group. He was a Mujahid who recieved a dream to take these lands and these who followed him are the following.

1.Abgaal
2.Murusade
3.Hawaadle
4.Habar Gedir
5.Duduble
6.Gaaljecel
7.Udejejeen
8.Baadicade
9.Dagodiya
10.Garre
11.Bimaal
12.Surre
13.Ajuuran
14.Jijale
15. Xaskul

[GameChanger]

These qabils are not real. People say reer isaaq of Ogaden are toljeclo the former sultanate of isaaq before being dethroned by abdi cisse. They were banished from isaaq people say. These clans are tribal confederations like the Arabs

We aren't tribal confederations and DNA proves that. They are biological brothers example The Hawaadle and Habar Gedir abtirsi eventually goes into the same man in approx 4-5 forefathers or 4-5 generations

[Gubbet]

Your MS Paint nonsense called the "Abikar" Map has already been scientifically discredited.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 4#p5043734

[GameChanger]

Your MS Paint nonsense called the "Abikar" Map has already been scientifically discredited.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 4#p5043734

That is your opinion but that map is highly respectful map. Lets agree to disagree

[Gubbet]

Your MS Paint nonsense called the "Abikar" Map has already been scientifically discredited.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 4#p5043734

That is your opinion but that map is highly respectful map. Lets agree to disagree

Have you ever been to school?

"Empirical" is not an opinion. It is scientific fact.

You are not in Saaxo or Yamaarugley or Ramalo or Hananwaylood or Uurmadag. You are not in Waal or Ina Ereg or Bangeelle or Dalsan.

Your map is fantasy.

[Gubbet]

[Ghiklo]

A Xawaadle test taker has done a medium-density Y-Chromosome test (Y37) and has come out with E-Y18637, making him paternally thousands of years removed from the Leelkase. So, no they are not related.

[Gubbet]

[Gubbet]

[GameChanger]

It is almost the same if you were referring to Galmudug areas

[Gubbet]

A Xawaadle test taker has done a medium-density Y-Chromosome DNA test (Y37) and has come out with E-Y18637, making him paternally thousands of years removed from the Leelkase. So, no they are not related.

Interesting. I haven't seen any Xawaadle genetic results. Is it only 1 individual? I think it is best to wait until at least 3 Xawaadle individuals before making any kind of preliminary conjuncture based on pattern.

[Gubbet]

It is almost the same if you were referring to Galmudug areas

You need to go back to school.

[GameChanger]

A Xawaadle test taker has done a medium-density Y-Chromosome DNA test (Y37) and has come out with E-Y18637, making him paternally thousands of years removed from the Leelkase. So, no they are not related.

Interesting. I haven't seen any Xawaadle genetic results. Is it only 1 individual? I think it is best to wait until at least 3 Xawaadle individuals before making any kind of preliminary conjuncture based on pattern.

Hawaadle shares same DNA closters as HG, Duduble and other central Somali groups meaning they are in reality brothers and their claims are truthful. They are Samaale